Arvenski Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 Almost forgot to mention that I've updated the thread: Ingermanland and Le Grosse Ventre and now properly listed, since they've been released, and I've added Agamemnon to the ships in development, since Mirones confirmed her to be in development (and we basically knew, already). I haven't added the Kepler to the list yet, because I'm doing this in little bits while I should be writing school essays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prater Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 There are only 5 US ships in game. Navy Brig is reskin of Brig, and Privateer is a reskin of Lynx. Just like 3rd Rate isn't listed twice for the Brits, even though it is a reskin of the Bellona. Kepler is in development and a razee of the Pavel. Christian 7 is rumored to be in development. It is in the game files anyway, no confirmation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) There are only 5 US ships in game. Navy Brig is reskin of Brig, and Privateer is a reskin of Lynx. Just like 3rd Rate isn't listed twice for the Brits, even though it is a reskin of the Bellona. Kepler is in development and a razee of the Pavel. Christian 7 is rumored to be in development. It is in the game files anyway, no confirmation though. 1.) Alright, fair point, I guess. I'll edit that. 2.) I'm aware of the bloody Kepler, I just haven't gotten around to including her yet. EDIT: Kepler's been included in the list. 3.) If it isn't confirmed, I'm not listing it in the OP. However, let's hope the Ship Selection Poll confirms it soon enough. Edited April 1, 2016 by Arvenski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Okay, I've updated the lists to include Christian VII and Diana, the apparent winners of the Player Ship Selection poll. I'll update it again when we know the developers' wild card choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isink A Lot Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I wonder if we would have the same outcome of the latest ship poll if we knew then that Ports would be busted into 3 types with 4th rates and down now being the most prolific port type in game? Kinda of make the Christian VII and the other 3 in development 2nd rates a waste if you ask me. Hope the Devs chose the Venus or the Wasa (if it is considered a 4th rate) as they are more appealing then the Christian VII with new PB limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 No news about the developers wilds card... maybe they forgot it. I doubt they've forgotten it. They probably just haven't gotten around to it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 The Rattlesnake and Amsterdam's listings have been updated, now that they're in-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 its not amsterdam, she is chapman number idk XV II ish. Amsterdam would have 42guns instead of 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) I thought as much. Okay, so what nationality should I list her as? Would she be Swedish, if she's a Chapman design? Also, I know it was mentioned that the devs were having trouble getting the plans for the Amsterdam. Is this Indiaman what the devs ended up going with instead, since they couldn't find the Amsterdam's plans, or was this one of the other traders "possibly" in development, and are we still going to get the Amsterdam later? I know you probably won't want to answer this (), but I'd like to know. Edited May 21, 2016 by Arvenski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BungeeLemming Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 http://www.finemodelships.com/ship-plans/Chapman_Architectura_eng.htm in here you can find her plan "LI" when you scroll down quite a bit. She is listed as an "english east indiaman". Definately a swedish design. Used by a british company.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Fishy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 This is a really good list, somehow I haven't found it before, perhaps I need to look more deeply into the happiness chest that is the NA forums. it does kind of draw attention to the sadness there are no Italian ships at all, its a real shame, partly because there seems much less documentation and imperialism in the time period but still it would be nice to see a couple make their appearance, personally, as you might tell from my signature I would do anything to see the Fama and La Muiron in the game, they are just very interesting designs and ships, although I am not holding my breath . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destraex Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I love your thread Arvenski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeekoning Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Great job! In the patch 9.8 thread, they mention that the Indiaman's a player voted ship. Because the only merchant ship that won a poll was the Amsterdam, you can take it off of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 I love your thread Arvenski! Thanks, man. @Zeekoning: Look at the posts farther up this page. The Indiaman we got isn't the Amsterdam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeekoning Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) I know, but since they said that the Indiaman was a player voted ship, they are not working on the Amsterdam because it was the only merchant ship to win a player poll. Edit: To put it another way, because they could not find plans for the Amsterdam, they decided to add the Indiaman instead. Edited June 2, 2016 by Zeekoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 I was wondering if that was the case, but we don't know for sure, do we? I asked Mirones about that, but of course he didn't give an answer (because developers). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelSandwich Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 "But... we are still missing her original plans! In absence of the plans, she will be modelled using the plans for the indiaman as drawn by Chapman (as mentioned by admin), which is an English Indiaman." Just a quote from the Amsterdam thread. http://forum.game-labs.net/ In different words: yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 There's been some talk about it by staff members. No huge posts or reveals, but enough to understand that it's being worked on. For instance, in the OP (under "Sources"), I've quoted a post by Mirones that says that we'll be able to razee an Agamemnon to get an Indefatigable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 agi and indi are in the game folder together with otherships but information on there status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idle Champion Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Query to Arvenski: looking at the possible ways a Pavel-derived frigate could turn out, it could be a fifth-rate, but it could very well match or exceed the Diet Bellona for firepower; what made you count it among the fifth-rates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) That's a good question, actually. I suppose I took a wild guess at how many guns she might carry. Although, now that you mention it, she could end up being a 4th-rate like the Constitution. (On a similar note, I just saw that this thread says that Kepler's gun deck is the same length as that of the Consti. Hmm.) edit: This is where I must've gotten the number of guns from. I'd completely forgotten about it: 36 gun ports. Edited July 15, 2016 by Arvenski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Definitely at least a 4th rate in game terms. Possibly even 3rd rate if they also make up unrealistic armament (e.g. leaving 24pdrs on new weatherdecks). Fantasy ships will have to be arbitrarily rated. Simply counting guns would result in distortions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Definitely at least a 4th rate in game terms. Possibly even 3rd rate if they also make up unrealistic armament (e.g. leaving 24pdrs on new weatherdecks). Fantasy ships will have to be arbitrarily rated. See my edit above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Frias Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I think the 3rd rate that is developement is "El Montañés" an spanish 3rd rate, he fought in Trafalgar. He was really fast and one of the most modern ships of the Real Armada in the end of XVIII century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvenski Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 No need to be an ass, Intrepido. (I know, I'm one to talk sometimes. ) I agree that El Montañés would be a nice ship to see in-game, but as far as I know we don't have any indication that she's in development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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