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Recently, the mindset of "Make Safezones Safe again!" has gained a lot of supporters. Requins are sniping noobs all over the place. In this thread I would like to have a formal discussion about safezones, if they should be a thing, and if so, under what circumstances. I think the game (-devs) have to finally make the decision whether or not newbs should get absolute protection in a certain area or not. In their current state, the reinforcment zones are not fullfulling their role of protecting noobs. Those often don't even know how to call for help in nation chat. It's rather the more experienced captains that are gaining from it, so they can craft / trade in peace. The game is getting closer to a release state, Port UI should attract quite a few new players and perhaps we will also see some returning players. However, it will most likely not take them long to say *eff this* after getting sniped @ the capital and put the game away again. There was an attempt to fill the spot of PvP for those that want it, with the Patrol Zones. However, with a pretty bad execution. Personally I don't even dare anymore to attack certain nation players in the zones, because I know the probability of more of them spawning in half an hour later is pretty high. Thus, I think having a 100% safe zone (nation owning the zone is not attackable) is the right way to go, given... 1 Zone per nation Smaller zone than the ones we currently got Chooseable "High-Sec missions", which ONLY spawn in the green zone, granting significantly less rewards than... "Low Sec" missions, which spawn in an area outside the first, green zone, grant more rewards by @Christendom: Ships crafted in the zone are only basic (green or blue) Cannot tow a ship to / from ports within the safe zone The idea of a 100% sec zone should be to give new players a place to get into the game; not give vets a secret cave to hite at to produce all their stuff they need. *Ermagerd, where do I now go to kill stuff??* For there to be a safe zone; I think there needs to be a reliable alternative for players to find PvP. *You scrub, we got Patrol zones for that*... yeah sure, we do. However, with a pretty bad execution. 30 min open battles @ a place where both sides on their own will, to get PvP, is not a solution. A while ago, I posted a suggestion, how the ideal PvP zone (in my opinion, of course) would look like. As far as I know, the patrol zone IS on the devs to do list, however only after the Port UI (and localization?) is done. I fear that will be too late, though. The two zones explained: "High Sec" - Players of the nation owning the zone CANNOT be attacked, at all. "Low Sec" - Players of the nation owning the zone CAN be attacked, Only extra rule is battles stay open for a little longer than the rest of OW - perhaps 10 minutes Zones visualized (Just an example, not too sure about the zones size), just for you to get the idea: Pro's Noobs are safe. Better player retention rate Less salt. Con's Less sandboxy. PvP zones are more Arena-ish.
Gentlemen Something I've been thinking about lately... It's become increasingly harder and harder to find PvP, I've found myself at La Habana and Charleston more often than I should. I’ve been attacking new players, PVE'ers and other individuals who really weren't too interested in getting their day ruined by a random British captain. I’ve had shit thrown at me in private messages by “honorable” captains from competing nations around French, American and Spanish waters for attacking them (PvP’ers), instead of attaking PVE’ers. This has made me think. Disclaimer: I know the devs have little to no interest in changing safe zones for now, especially with the new patches on their way. I'd like to propose the following: Make safe zones safe - no fighting PvP at all in safe zones.. let people do missions there for as many hours as they like. Remove enemy AIs from capital zones (have to leave the capitals if you want to engage AI fleets for books). Remove money reward for killing ships in missions, increase the cash reward for the mission itself. Make the cash reward higher for low tier missions, and lower for high tier missions. Make all basic books purchasable from the admiralty with CMs. Make ONE safe zone per nation. I believe that this will create a good, safe environment around capitals for new players, they will be able to get everything they need for the first week or two - if they want more money, skill books and marks they have to leave the zone. If experienced players feel like logging-in to fight some AI for an hour this can easily be done in the safe zone too. Most importantly: Casuals will never be annoyed again by any gankers or actual PvP’ers looking for a fight. PvP’ers can now fight each-other and brave PVE’ers can explore the beautiful map of Naval Action in hopes of finding new riches while I search for them.! Cheers guys. EDIT: Edited according to feedback. EDIT: For easier understanding.
In his notes to the update on 21st June @admin stated that: "Reinforcement zones ports and capitals (uncapturable ports including free towns) ability to build better vessels reduced, capturable ports ability to build better ships greatly increased" At least in case of Sweden (don't know about the other nations) this seems to be a bit misleading as Sweden has a capturable port within th reinforcement zone: Philipsburg. So, the simple question is: Is Philipsburg counted as a "Reinforcement zone port" or as a capturable port as it is clearly both? Thanks for answers.
First i want to congratulate the devs for the new changes. Most of them are nice and improve the quality of life in the game and this shows in the increase of player numbers. Having said that, there are, imo, systemic flaws that needs to be addressed before the game can be recomended to others. 1. Reinforced zone or Safe zone, imo is neither, yeah some ship spawn when u are attacked, but anyone who has done this knows how easy it is to kill the target despite reinforcement. This creates a lot of grief. Has to be addressed! 2. Boarding game, again, imo, boarding game is a joke. U can no longer have this the way it is now. The game costs 35€ and a ship can, some time take up to tree days to craft and all gets lost on a text game that looks from the year 1974. I understand that is a placeholder its just no longer acceptable. Has to be addressed! 3. PvP patrol zone, this can be the perfect place to get pvp, quick. The thing is, what u get is a ganking experience. If u are lucky, u get to gank someone or if u are unlucky, u get ganked, so question is: Do you feel lucky, punk? The fixes are multiple, most of them are easy plus the comunity asks for this to happen, yet, nothing. In the end it will happen like last time. The comunity asks for tweaks in the battle br and devs will completely remove the patrol blaming that players stoped comming to patrol mission. Has to be addressed! Well this is what needs to be fixed fast, imo. If this tree things get fixed then this game becomes a glorious game that i will recomend to everybody i know. But then, as it was pointed out, the game will still have a problem with his veterans which are tired of doing the same stuff. So a lot more ingame content is required both for pvp and pve players. I wish to apologise in advance if i ofended anyone, it was not my intention, and allso english is not my first language, so be nice.😉 With regards, Jack