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  1. We all know that sometimes ships of the line were cut-down one deck and became razées, powerfull frigates. The most notable example of this kind of ships within the timeframe of NA most probably is the Indefatigable. What´s probably less known is that a couple of frigates also had their quarterdeck and forecastle deck removed and were reclassed as sloops of war / corvettes. A couple of examples of this pretty interesting ship type: USS John Adams Launched 1799 (armament 24 12-pounders + 2 12-pounder bow chasers, 6 24-pound carronades), cut down to a sloop in 1807-09 with 24 42-pound carronades and 2 12-pounder bow chasers. I found plans for the John Adams as frigate (by our fellow captain Talos, by the way), but regretably none for the sloop. La Circée (Armide-class) Launched 1811, converted to a corvette sans gaillards in 1832. Armament: 24 long 18-pounders and 4 short 30-pounders. Plans for La Circée as a sloop from the Atlas du Génie Maritime: As the captain of La Circée after her conversion observed in his logbook, the vastly improved speed and maneuverabilty of his frégate rasée 'could do much harm to the enemy', but he raised concerns about the lack of sufficient space for the crew. The 18-pounder frigates L'Aréthuse and La Cybèle (both Pallas-class) were also razeed in the early 1830s, the 40-gun frigates of the 1824 program, L'Arthémise and La Galathée, were converted while still in the docks, carrying 24 short 30-pounders and 6 18-pound carronades after launch. Samarang (Atholl-class) Designed as small 28-gun 'jack-ass' frigates, some ships of this class were cut down to sloops. Class design: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83004.html Model of the Samarang after her conversion: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66666.html Armament as sloop: 18 32-pound carronades, 2 long 9-pounders
  2. A razee will always have a disadvantage compared to the Constitution, because it will have a hull designed for SOL, and you know that the SOLs are heavier than frigates, and then will have a bigger hull and squat, and then a razee will inevitably be less maneuverable than a Constitution. USS Constitution http://www.stephens-kenau.com/userfiles/product/Constitution/Constitution_Stern_View.jpg HMS Indefatigable razee http://www.pellew.com/Exmouth/Exmouth%20007/images/23b.jpg I put Indefatigable as photos just to let you see the type of the hull of a razee is more stocky.
  3. HMS Indefatigable was one of the Ardent class 64-gun third-rate ships-of-the-line designed by Sir Thomas Slade in 1761 for the Royal Navy. Though built as a ship-of-the-line, most of her active service took place after her conversion to a 44-gun heavy frigate. She had a long career under several distinguished commanders, serving throughout the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars. She took, alone or in company, some 27 prizes and in 1847 the Admiralty authorised the issue of four clasps to the Naval General Service Medal to any still surviving members of her crews from the respective actions. She was broken up in 1816. I will post images when more research is done. The rest is a Post by ChainsawEcosse. Hi All, just pulling this over from the poll. Some more on HMS Indefatigable as I love this ship, not the best but a great story. It was my entry in Bismarck's Youtube competition where I'm humbled to say it got an honourable mention. The quiz result is here; And hopefully you can download the pdf from here; https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing Cheers, Alan
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