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This post is shamelessly stolen from the Global forums but I recon the same issue exists on the EU server so thx to @Slamdz for raising the issue first. First I'll describe the situation: I'm one of the players in one of the most active PvP-clans in DK/NG - DNP. I go to KPR regularly - for stories of some of the exploits pls read: But it is both getting tedious and boring - why? - well there's very few good PvP players around. Those that are around KPR are either traders (yum yum yum!) or PvE mission grinders (Yum yum yum!). Most are reasonable enough and don't mind a bit of PvP but there are some, a lot actually, that really gets pissed for us "ganking" in their capital waters. But the server IS a PvP server. And the problem DO reside inside the british faction. Most other factions are actually hard to raid - they take offence of ppl interfering in their waters, wether that being smuglin' (I do my fair bit) or raiding - they come out in force and either hunt down the raiders or run them off. The brits? well they just don't seem to care. And that's a problem. The mission grinders get annoyed that they loose ships, I've even been called a cunt numerous times in battle chat and I don't even know where he got that anatomical impression of me from.. but I guess it is rather bothersome to be interrupted in the PvE. And it is rather unfullfilling to kill of a lone indefatigable doing mission in the capital area. So imagine my joy yesterday when I found that I was actually hunted. I even got tagged! but alas.. the patrol ships were so slow that a seaturtle on prozac would've outrun them. So as the gent I am I offered the opposing sides reno a duel - seeing my reno was faster than theirs it goes to figure that theirs were a lot sturdier and on paper it would be an evenly matched battle - perhaps even with a structural advantage to the opponent, granted a bit off-set by him being prob unaccustomed to PvP. I asked the opposing players to leave, my own two mates quicky left and imagine my dissappointment when the offer for a 1vs1 was accepted but not honoured - so I left the battle and started picking more ships, basically what show of slow, oh so slow, force the brits had produced just turned around and went back into port while me and my two mates just kept killing off brit PvE'ers that apparently were completely unaware and uninformed of the dane raiding party laying in wait - quite literally - right outside KPR. Today the same issue occured. We tagged an indefatigable (we being 1 connie (15kn) 2 renos (15kn) and 2 surps (15kn)) and to our joy we were joined by one enemy constitution, one enemy endymion and one enemy snow. So the teams were: Danish/Norwegian navy: 1 connie, 2 renos and 2 surps vs. Brits: 1 connie, 1 indefatigable, 1 endymion, 1 snow. Broadside to broadside they outgunned us, armor and hp to armor and hp they should outlast us, but for some reason the brits that jumped into the battle left and we were basically allowed to kill of the indefatigable. I still can't figure out why. After sinking the indefatigable we jumped out, another dane in a surp was being chased by two frigs and two surps so we gave chase, cought the frigs and the surps and the frigs left the battle - in the end we managed to hunt down one frig and one surp, why? because they left eachother to survive on their own devices.. the rear chasers of the surps 8 in total should've carried them through and managed to get them all safely back to KPR. Instead they were each left to fend for themselves and we sank 50% of their forces. And I don't really understand why they could just leave eachother like that. What I do figure is that the brits need to get their act together. It's the responsibility of the entire faction to keep home waters safe and for the largest faction to put up such a pathetic show of force is just.. well pathetic.. The hardest fight we got was from a swedish connie with a surp in concert - that is a swedish raiding party at KPR gave us more of a fight than the pride of the "Royal" navy.. Nothing royal about it says I.. So what to do about it? Here follows my advices for getting your (brits) shit together and start putting up some resistance: 1) don't try to hunt down raiders in ships going less than 15kn. If you don't have anything fast enough - make sure a dedicated tagger has. Otherwise it's just a waste of everyones time. 2) don't leave eachother - this shouldn't have to be pointed out. 3) the only viable ships for noobs is surps and connies - don't try to be something you're not, go the EZ mode to start with and when you feel comfortable you can try some of the more challenging PvP ships. And don't worry about speed, in the current broken system all ships can go 15kn, just a matter of mats and upgrades + knowledge. 4) Make an OP in either Port Morant or Carlisle (and make sure both ports are covered) - and keep fast ships in them (again this shouldn't have to be pointed out but anyway) - This will make the triangle KPR/Carlisle/Port Morant and any enemy raiding groups that wants to run away has no choice but to go SE towards the dutch - remember a win is not just when the enemy sinks, sometimes just running them off your property can be a win in itself. And there's allways the chance that bad winds or poor navigations makes the enemy raiding party run aground on the shallows at Pedro Cay. 5) Get your asses out of Belize/KPR - no one dies from losing a ship, in the current broken economy it's not even a setback. So in short: Get your act together and stop whining about PvP on a PvP server.