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  1. Like the title: Hull Port Bonus 4 doesn't apply to Hull HP even if described as All Armor HP. Thickness is applied to Hull thickness. Basic Hull Refit Upgrade with All Armor HP description is applied to Hull HP. Is this a bug or choice? if choice description should be edited Noticed this making a ship configurator that i may publish sooner or later
  2. I would like to raise a thread regarding the economy, including all its sub-branches(crafting, hauling etc..) and the effects of every aspect translated into open world game play, particularly, but not limited to the Realm vs Realm aspect of the game. I will be taking experiences from previous games in which I have played quite a bit, and which have influenced this post; Pirates of the Burning Sea and Eve Online. Economy vs Open World/RvR/PvP Balance The developers at Game Labs, as we know, have been working on the crafting system, they plan to merge it along with the current market system and upgrade it into a fully operational economy. So far so good, but I would like to stress areas which have lacked in previous game economies, rendering game-play less fun. The system Pirates of the Burning Sea had (Initially, before they completely messed it up) was a very good balance in terms of realism and game-play necessity, what I mean is that the economy allowed for relatively easy production of frigates and 4th rates, but got exponentially harder as you tried to produce 3rd, 2nd, and 1st rates. If pirates had gone for a more realistic approach, (understand I am not a history expert) we would have probably all been sailing in even smaller ships then frigates for PvP as it would've been too expensive to take a frigate to PvP constantly. Very few people would have 1-4th rates and frigates, especially of the caliber players liked to run around with constantly-- in PvP. So I go back to the topic of balancing, between realism and the necessity of keeping the game-play fun and refreshing, because nobody would like to sail in small schooners for a long time and nobody would like constant open sea fighting in 1st rates. This is why, in my opinion, Pirates of the Burning Sea excelled at having such a great pvp atmosphere. Open sea combat, throughout almost the entirety of the game, revolved around frigates, easily disposable if you were a great captain, and not that big of a loss if you were a newbie. Which finally brings me to my 1st suggestion; 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st rates should be exponentially harder to make, requiring your organization/society (whatever you like to call it) to work together to produce it. Where building a 4th rate wouldn't be that much of a hassle, transition to a 1st rate, and you've got some work to do. Sticking to this idea, when designing the economy, will keep more frigates in the open sea and increase the value a 1st, 2nd and 3rd rate have in major operations, ex: Port Battles, nations will be more reluctant or more daring when choosing to summon their beastly weapons of war. Capturing Ships- NPCs My next suggestion, and keep in mind, I have not heard anything regarding this, so it could be outdated already, and yes, I am ready to dodge fire balls just in case. Players shouldn't be able to capture NPC ships, the contrary worked fine in Pirates of the Burning Sea, but only because NPCs sailed weak frigates in comparison to what players actually used for PvP, and even then, you could not capture any 4th, 3rd, 2nd or 1st rates from NPC fleets. Yes, I know players in Naval Action would eventually be able to craft better versions of ships which NPCs used but it still would not out-weigh the fact that the open sea and port battles would suffer a massive inflation of rate ships, which I strongly believe would turn the game dull and less immersive, not giving it the dramatic feel of loss. Games such as Star Wars: The Old Republic advertised open world pvp, and it ended in massive disappointment simply due to the fact that when you died you lost nothing, you could just respawn and go back in. This mechanic strongly resembles any mainstream arcade FPS shooter out there, NOT an open world MMO. There needs to be a risk, and there needs to be hard work to acquire those ships, not essentially a grind, but still. I say this, and I do understand there would be a money loss in regards to the ship upgrades when you died in a captured ship. If we allow the capturing of ships, the devs would need to balance the cost vs loss ratio in order to make both options equally monetarily viable, taking into account the durability of bought ships. It would be a massive headache and only cause drama among the players, plus, it would make ship prices go either down, due to ship builders trying to make whatever minimal profit they can or way up in order to make a decent sized profit from the minimal sell orders. The prices could also fluctuate heavily if the developers failed to balance the cost vs loss between both methods of acquiring ships. Either way, it would discourage people from manufacturing ships. So I strongly recommend the end of capturing NPC ships, for the sake of keeping the game strictly supply and demand, based off of an economy ran by econ players and defended by PvP players. It worked well in Pirates of the Burning Sea and EXCEPTIONALLY well in EvE online, there is absolutely no doubt about it. I see no issue with capturing enemy PLAYER ships though, but I would suggest putting a very minor cap on that like PotBS had, where you could capture one ship every couple of hours. The Cycle of the Economy In an open world game like Naval Action, it is essential you follow certain rules, rules that keep the cycle of the game running. Haulers/traders and manufacturers produce ships, consumables, upgrades --> PvPers (the main consumers, who die all the time) buy the ships and equipment ---> ? D: How will players who love to PvP make a living? Once again, PotBS had an answer, not a historically realistic one, but one that kept the cycle going, and that was Marks of Victory/Trade/War. These marks were rewarded to players after killing an enemy player, the player could then sell those marks for quite a bit of money. If you haven't played Pirates of the Burning Sea, you may ask, "But who would want to buy those marks, what was their purpose?" well, in Pirates, the Marks allowed you to obtain special ships or equipment at your factions admiralty, players who didn't PvP or were simply bad at it, bought those all the time, there was a big market for them. But I am not suggesting the same should be true with Naval Action. What I am suggesting is we have a similar mechanic in place, possibly more realistic, or immersive than the one PotBS had. I am not a particularly creative person, so I invite you, if you agree with this idea, to suggest a possibility, but just for the sake of an example; players could get a document/certificate for sinking a ship which could be turned in at the admiralty for different prizes. This document/certificate could be turned in for a prize which could benefit various other play-styles; explorers, haulers, PvErs, and especially the econ people, which could turn those certificates into something that would allow them to craft better ships/equipment (Mastercraft and such) by bringing in materials from the mother country. Why would I bother suggesting this? Certainly, a PvPer could go do some econ, or grind NPC fleets to make money. Well, the one simple answer is that, each and every one of us has a play-style and I personally would hate to grind for money so that I could PvP, I'd rather do what I love and get paid for it. This has been my suggestions post, I would like to invite people to add to these if they got any ideas from it and I am completely accepting of constructive criticism. Also, sorry if some of the paragraphs turned out to be walls of text, I tried separating them as best I could. -Morgan Lacerda
  3. [UPDATED] - 9/15/2019: Streamlined the chart display system. Now instead of updating every 5 minutes, the charts should update instantly. They should also be more friendly to mobile users. Basic Idea: The idea behind this is simple. You submit your buy/sell order using the google form. That info is then automatically processed in g-sheets and loaded to a website where anyone can view the items/ships up for sale, or crafters can see who is requesting which ships/item. When you use the google form, you are required to enter a 4 digit pin. Once the order is filled, you can go to the g-sheet, enter their pin, and the order is hidden and removed from the website. Want to see whats been posted, or want to submit something yourself? Take a look at the website (link below). Everything is easily accessed from there. Website Link - https://sites.google.com/view/namarketplace/home Link to the google spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1M6aMs-mlMLpOG2nhZBXQycJOQYDTLNKX-BhMIHchM/edit?usp=sharing Give it a try! Everything is ready to go. I currently cannot get in-game to advertise, so if you like this project, feel free to help spread the word. I would suggest directing people to this post, or to the website itself.
  4. Hola, cuando me aburro escribo cosas y se me ha ocurrido crear este post sobre crafteo de barcos pensando en los principiantes. Trataré de explicar brevemente las combinaciones de maderas y cañones en barcos, y los cambios que genera en la jugabilidad sus distintas stats. Básicamente podemos encontrar tres tipos de barcos: los que son rápidos y blanditos, los que son duros y lentotes y los que tienen estadísticas intermedias. Cuando crafteamos un barco o lo compramos en un puerto tanto a un jugador como a la IA, este tiene una COMBINACIÓN DE DOS MADERAS: la primera son las FRAME PARTS, que es como el armazón y la segunda el PLANKING que son los tablones. (NOTA: usaré la notación en inglés, por lo que si tienes el juego en catellano los nombres pueden variar) 1.Rápidos y blanditos: Sus FRAME PARTS estan hechas de unas de estas tres maderas: fir, bermuda cedar o mahogany, siendo el fir la más veloz y blandita y el mahogany la menos. Los barcos con estas frame parts verán incrementados sus stats de velocidad y reducida su THICKNESS o grosor, por los que el fuego enemigo tendrá menos probabilidad de rebotar en el barco, y también ven reducido sus HP o puntos de vida, por lo que su durabilidad en combate tambien es menor. Su PLANKING está hecho de una de las siguientes maderas: fir, bermuda, mahogany, teak o white. El fir y el bermuda son los que más velocidad aportan al barco, restando más thickness y hp; además generan más astillas por lo que los cañonazos que te den te matan más tripulación. El mahogany resta muy poco thickness y hp, pero su aporte de velocidad es algo menor; su punto fuerte es que es la madera que menos astillas genera por lo que la tripulación está más protegida. La teak y el white aportan algo de velocidad y suman un poco de thickness, por lo que compensan la pérdida en este stat de las frame parts. CONCLUSIÓN: A.-Si quieres barcos ultraveloces pa cazar traders o barcos más pequeños que tú y lo demás no te importa, usa los siguientes: FIR frame-FIR planking (NOTA: de ahora en adelante so omitirán los "frame" y los "planking" :D). , FIR-BERMUDA, FIR-MAHOGANY, BERMUDA-BERMUDA. Este tipo de barcos está muy bien para cazar traders o barcos más pequeños que tú y salir por patas cuando estimes conveniente. Normalmente los más usasdos son FIR-FIR, el más rápido y blando de todos, y BERMUDA-BERMUDA. No obstante si lo que quieres es velocidad a tope, casi cualquier combinación que lleve FIR como frame parts te sirve. B.- Barcos rápidos pero con stats más equilibradas: FIR-TEAK, FIR-WHITE, MAHOGANY-MAHOGANY. TEAK-FIR Se trata de barcos rápidos, pero que buscan compensar la pérdida de grosor y durabilidad de los barcos de "velocidad pura". Son barcos muy usables en PvP, con los que puedes asegurarte una escapatoria la mayoría de las veces si el combate no te va bien, y que puedes usar tanto contra traders como contra barcos de guerra, aunque debes de ser habilidoso, pues recuerda que sus stats de dureza y durabilidad son menores. Las combinaciones más usadas son FIR-TEAK y TEAK-FIR, que tienen stats muy parecidos aunque un punto débil ambas: la primera una menor durabilidad y grosor, y la segunda una mayor pérdida de tripulación por las astillas. Iré EDITANDO los próximos días, para ir añadiendo lo que falta y las ideas que me vayáis dando. Besis a Moxhay.
  5. Warships in the age of sail are nothing more than gun platforms. ( let's exclude trader vessels for the moment being ). They were designed with usage of certain guns in mind. So the framing, planking and woods to be used all were focused on being able to transport into battle a certain set of guns. My proposal is this: - tie the structural strength of the ship - mainly the woods used can reflect this - with the size of the guns than can be equipped. For example, a USS Constitution built of Live Oak and Oak would be able to carry the heaviest guns for her - the 24's and the 42's. But a Fir and a Teak construct wouldn't be able to carry that heavy armament. Just an idea of how variety in regards of wood choices may also balance the broadside weight. Ships were weapon platforms and built as such. That's why some models that tried heavier armaments didn't go too well and had to downgrade them, IRL. ( carronade introduction is a good example of trying to upgun ships that weren't built to carry heavy broadside guns ) And is all about woods chosen in the construction. So the effect would be: - we can still choose whatever woods we want with the limitation of the gun sizes the final ship may carry with success.
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  7. Why do we only get xp for crafting ships? We should get xp for making cannons, repairs and mods too. I'm not saying it should give you a lot, but what if a crafter isn't a ship builder? Than shouldn't he get xp through other means? The other thing is travel xp should go towards Ship knowledge of the ship your in. It's very little but when your using trade ships you don't really fight in them so they should gain a little xp. Why can't we get xp for crafted ships like we did a long time ago. This would allow dedicated crafters to gain a little level from people using ships they crafted.
  8. @admin Last year, Game Labs announced that crafting ships away from home capital ports improved chance of crafting an above average quality ship. Blue 4/5 - purple 4/5 - purple 5/5 - gold Question - Does this improved chance still exist, and on the PVE server, does it include Neutral ports like La Navasse?
  9. The introduction of elite ships as 'end game content' for veteran players was a good thing. You get mostly powerful ships with port boni and, more dependable, those tasty new cannons. However, I think nobody will contradict me when I say ship crafting got stalled this way. It isn't making sense any more. Which is even a higher barrier now as after release we are supposed to set up our shipyards again from scratch and heavily invest into them. Any ship built on player's shipyard, even in preferable woods, will be outmatched by a converted elite note ship. -- So I am proposing a reform for elite notes on PvE peace server. Not sure if PvP war server needs that too, they have their real port boni from... ehm... ports apparently. According to this suggestion, you would not loot an elite note which produces a whole ship, but only a 'port boni package' of unknown composition. And the type of ship you looted it from would determine if it is a "6-7th rate port boni upgrade" or a "5th rate..." or a "4th rate..." etc. Not tied to the exact ship model but to a class/rate. So a package from a Wasa can be used on a Bellona project, a package from an Essex on an Endymion project, etc. This package you bring to your shipyard and use it as optional ingredient for ship crafting. You may still build ships without port boni, they will result like the ones we are currently having. But you may chose to add a matching port boni upgrade when crafting - and you will get a random port boni composition with the new ship. This will ignite a new interest in ship crafting and crafted ships will surpass existing elite note converted ships in quality, like they should. -- In case the idea behind introducing elite note ships was also about enabling players to produce instant ships if they don't have a shipyard, make it so, that the player would have to add an amount in doubloons to his elite note and he will be able to convert it in the way it is done now, to a ship of same type, just without shipyard. But he can't chose woods, like it is now. This promotes the use of shipyards, but does not require them totally. So here it is not a class and free use within that ship class/rating, but an Ingermanland will always result in an Ingermanland elite ship, and no Wappen or Agamemnon, etc. Like: 6-7th rate elite note + 2000 doubloons 5th rate elite note + 4000 doubloons 4th rate elite note + 6000 doubloons 3rd rate elite note + 10000 doubloons 2nd rate elite note + 15000 doubloons 1st rate elite note + 20000 doubloons = convertible note = elite ship of same class with random wood composition
  10. Hi admin, all! I am returning after a year for release, and this is one change that I would have liked to see implemented in that time. Currently when you go to craft or redeem a ship, the default option is always Fir-Crew Space; this is probably due to alphabetical order, but it needs to change. Any experienced player knows that there is pretty much no reason to build a Fir-Crew Space ship; it's not particularly good at anything, and it's very weak. However new players definitely do not know this, and just redeem or craft the default build. I see way too many vessels crafted and redeemed in this way, and nobody wants them. When new players buy a ship DLC, redeem it in game with Fir-Crew Space, then go try it out in combat, they will think their $$$-bought ship sucks simply because of the build. I have a few ideas for default settings: Fir-Fir (good for traders, common wood) Oak-Oak (decent for fighting ships, common wood) Teak-White Oak (good all-rounder build, this would benefit redeemables a lot) Live Oak-White Oak (go full heavy, at least new players will have tanky ships) We could get really fancy, and have all built traders default to Fir-Fir, all built warships default to Oak-Oak, and all redeemables default to Teak-White Oak, which most people are probably doing anyways. Just my 2 doubloons, I think this would be a good QoL fix as well as a help for new players trying to craft or redeem ships.
  11. In my opinion, as of this last update the prices for Level 1 production buildings are FAR too high for the eventual release of the game. Whilst we can make a 250k real, 10k doubloon level 1 shipyard or iron mine work now, once release hits and no-one has high rank, high level crafting, etc. this will be incredibly hard. Level 1 production buildings should be viable and easy to obtain, allowing new players to get into the game and try out crafting and/or help their clan. As it stands right now, release will be even more DLC action than Naval action, as no-one will be able to build anything to be able to go out and capture the larger AI ships. I have no problem if the prices for level 2 and 3 are increased. IMO these prices for level 1 will turn away the new players you keep going on about that will be coming in. EDIT: As an addendum, you could make level 1 academy and workshop, where level 1 allows you to make basic mods (no book) and repairs/rum, and level2 allows everything. Level 1 forge could allow crafting of long guns<=18p and carronades <=32p, and level 2 (more expensive) allows all guns. Etc.
  12. After having a look through the API today I realised that the formerly uncapturable ports (e.g Belize, Nouvelle-Orleans, Vera Cruz etc) still have the parameter "ImprovedCraftChance" set to false. Is this just an update missing in the API file or are those parameters still the same ingame as well? If so, any chance this can be remedied with the coming patch? Thanks in advance 😀
  13. This image is a great visual to see precisely how many ships require permits that are purchasable only via Combat Medals. It also shows which ships are out-classed by ships of lower class. Please answer the Poll that relates to this image. First section highlights which ships are not craftable without permits (denoted with *) or because they are DLC/Gift ships Notice only 2 of 4 4th rates are available; 50% - 1 of these 'uncraftables' being reclassified up to this class that has lower stats than the others Notice only 9 of 17 5th rates are available; 52.9% - 2 of them being Trader Ships, leaving only 7 craftable warships Notice only 7 of 12 6th rates are available; 58.3% - 2 of them being Trader Ships, 1 of them being only for Port Battles, leaving only 4 craftable warships Notice only 6 of 11 7th rates are available; 54.5% - 2 of them being Trader Ships, leaving only 4 craftable warships Remaining sections highlight which ships have worse stats than ships in rates below it. Categorized by: Guns Crew Broadside Notice how the 3 recently re-categorized ships fall significantly behind, not just slightly. This means that these ships are no longer usable in missions for these rates, means they are no longer usable in PvP Zones for these rates, means they are no longer usable in Port Battles because of their new BR. Frankly, it means these ships are worthless for anything but completing generic missions against lower rated NPC ships. Sure, they might be usable in PvP, but only against lower rated ships. Even adding the best buff mods you can, these ships will still under perform against ships of lower class with the same buff mods. An now with Rare Woods, these ships stand no chance if they are made of less quality woods. Add onto it the Crafting RNG that makes 90% of the ships only 3/5s. I suggest: Changing the USS United States, Constitution, and Indefatigable back to their respective Rates Making only 1 ship per rate uncraftable without a permit (except for DLC/Gift ships, of course) Decreasing the RNG effect as we level up in Crafting XP Getting rid of Rare Woods Making 4th Rate NPC capturable Discuss....
  14. Some numbers first. We can craft 43 ships. 6 of them are traders. Consequently, 37 warships. From those 37 warships, 20 requires a permit. 54% of the warships requires a permit. From those 20 permits, 9 can only be earned by having luck opening a gold/captain/admiral chest. Consequently, 24% of the warships we can craft depends on RNG. This means that we can open several chests and still dont get the permit we are looking for. As it is, the current system will lead to player frustration. In Naval Action, the ships are our toons, and we want to sail the toons we like. This system based on RNG is just a HUGE mistake. If you look at other mmos end game looting tables, the rewards often gave you a token item which allows you to exchange it for the stuff you want. No RNG. Discuss.
  15. Hello everybody, Anybody knows what happen with the new Consti? It will be a crafteable ship? Or maybe a DLC ship? FLEKI loves you and loves Reverse. Thx for comments and your time
  16. At this moment, I played exactly for 1 month on the PvE server, and I would like to share my experiences about the 'grind', many complain about. I hope that this will be an interesting read for both fellow (new) players, as well a useful list of suggestions to the developers (in italic). I played for 260 hours this month, please take that into account: this is a time commitment not everyone can devote to a single game within 30 days. Also I've played the game a bit back in the days (2016), but didn't get too engaged at that time. Humble beginnings 9 January, one month ago, I downloaded Naval Action and started with my career. However, first a few decisions had to be made. PvP or PvE? And which Nation? Having no clue, I used google to search a bit, and found out that as an Independent player, the PvE server would be the most relaxing experience. With that being chosen, I still had to choose a nation. This gave me quite a headache, as it is impossible to switch from nation once started. It took me 3 hours of reading and searching on Google before I took the decision, and started playing as a Brit. This worked out very well, as on PvE the easiest nation to start with is UK. You start next to an important trade hub (La Navasse), where you can easily trade your goods and start making a bit of cash. Once started, I looked at the nice port UI, and decided to take a look at the chat. Being a lucky guy, I got the chance to sell my Christian redeemable for 2 million reals immediately, giving me the ability to ignore the initial credit deficit, so I could focus on fighting. I did that, by doing the tutorials, which I can heartily recommend to everyone. After a single day, I finished all the exams up to the boarding exam, the next day I finished the Endurance Exam, giving me 155 crew and a Rattlesnake note. Another day of learning the ropes gave me access to the Master and Commander rank by finishing the Final Exam and a Hercules. Feeling a bit bored, with not knowing what to do next, I bought myself a Belle Poule with a part of the money I had acquired. Using the ship, I started doing some missions, hunted down some traders and got more and more feeling about the game. After 2 days, I bought a Pirate Frigate and switched to Open World hunt & search missions, and with 7 days into the game I earned enough XP to get 400 crew. Findings: I found out that the UI takes some time to get used to, but is perfectly fine. Slight improvements could be made by giving access to both a sail and tutorial button, as it was frustrating to find the 'Sail' button. A tough thing which stands in the way when getting started, is your initial wealth. You start with absolutely nothing but your free ship. This is harsh, as you can't even put cannons on the ships you got gifted for the exams, nor starting to trade with your basic cutter. I would suggest new players receive 10k reals for finishing each exam and an additional 50k for finishing the Final exam. This will give players enough cash to start trading, or buy a ship with some cannons so you can collect doubloons to sell. Furthermore, I found it hard to find accurate game information as a lot of wiki's are not up-to-date. Once I found https://na-map.netlify.com/, I got all the information I needed and asking other players did the rest. It would be nice however if there would be an in-game list of ships and modules, or a link to an external site. I think that information is absolutely crucial for anyone playing Naval Action as the game is not self-explanatory. Lastly, I think the game really needs something like a captain's dairy, also see my suggestion in this thread. This will help new players setting up goals, as well as being an ideal place to integrate data about which ships are in the game for example. The second week Being playing for a week now, I switched to play in the Indefatigable I captured from an AI. I bought a forge, an iron mine and a coal mine and crafted myself some 42pd carronades. I opened a few outposts around the Caribbean, so I could search for targets more effectively. I also discovered that the level of AI ships depends on the region you're in. With this information, I opened an outpost in the Upper Antilles, so I could hunt 5th rates much more effectively. I also enjoyed chattering in the global chat, which for me adds a lot fun while experiencing this game. You're making friends, helping others out and being helped yourself. This was also the time I started exploring. I sailed around Hispaniola, looking into different ports, and found a Sealed Bottle with a skill book in the wreckage. By asking in the chat I learned what they do, and decided to buy some additional books in the admiralty shop. After grinding half my way - 10 days in now - I got gifted an Agamemnon. Having this ship with 400 crew was a blast, and from now on, playing no longer felt like I was grinding, as she was a properly built ship, having a Cartagena Caulking Refit, strong bow/stern as well as being made from live oak/white oak. Fighting AI become now much more easier (and more fun). I started attacking larger fleets (of 5th rates), and even took on a fleet of 8 x 5th rates while still being under-crewed. I mastered the art of enabling and disabling guns (F5) and gun decks (F1-F4). Also, finding targets became easier now I could fight different kind of fleet sizes. Findings: I love the way skill books work. It's lovely to get those bonus effects, as well as giving me a long term goal to complete collections like the Gunnery Encyclopedia. Things I was having trouble with at this stage, was finding out where the AI ships were hiding. A common complaint heard on the PvE server. However, as soon as I discovered where I could find them, it no longer was a problem for me. I think the spawn rate of AI's is good enough currently, giving an believable view of the Caribbeans. When I was looking for ships, I could find them easily, but they weren't that abundant that I could go into battle without searching. I love the blend between just sailing back and forth, and fighting. For me, it was relaxing to sail around, without being attacked by the AI. However, It felt that nation's are a bit useless on PvE. You can attack all PvE ships, but that from your own nation, which makes up for a nuisance, as 30% of all ships sailing around on the PvE server are British. This means lesser targets to hunt. Furthermore, it's infuriating you cannot add players of other nations to your friend list. I met a lot of nice people, and I would love to add them to my list. Ship building and sailing a Victory At this point in time I started ship building. I bought the DLC, as I found out that without enough building slots, it is very hard to get all your buildings up you'll need for shipbuilding. As I love to play independently, I decided I need as much space as possible, and started crafting random ships here and there. The next few days are unremarkable, as I started sailing around to get resources, used my labour hours, while also fighting a bit here and there. 18 days into the game, I ranked up again and got 650 crew. I asked around who could craft me a Victory, and after getting a blue 4/5 one, I loved this ship. I made her a DPM monster, putting my poods on her, medium cannons and 68pd carronades, further improved by a -30% reloading buff by adding skill books and Extra Rum and British Gunnery Sergeant. On my other ships - I had already 15 ships at this point - I started trying to experiment with different kind of upgrades and setups. I bought the Forger DLC to switch to the Pirates, as this allowed me to attack much more targets, making gathering experience more efficient. By fighting I managed to complete the Gunnery Encyclopedia, which is nice as it further improves my cannon skills for the Victory. After 21 days, I made a big plan. I wanted to become a real ship crafter - level 50, that is. I started with gathering data, e.g. where to build the ships, what resources I need and where to get them. I decided Road Town would be a perfect location, as The Settlement and Spanish town are very close, and with those 3 outpost, I have access to iron, coal, oak, fir, hemp, stone, provisions and lignum vitae. This allows me to build everything I want. I also studied all the crafting recipes, and found out that I needed 6k oak, 7k fir, 4k provisions and some of the other goods. This allows me to build 65 trader snows (oak/fir) - which are the cheapest xp for each real, and it roughly equals the xp required to level up from 29 to 50. After setting the stage, I decided I was ready at day 23 and crafted all ships in one go, breaking them up again after crafting. This got me up to level 50 in a single day, or 4 days including the preparations. While crafting, I got 3 golden trader snows and quite some purple ones. Findings: from here on, I was totally engaged in the game, no longer doubting whether it was worth my time. I bought DLC's, and I had fun playing this game. It no longer felt that I was grinding, as I could do so much stuff now. I think the experience required to sail a first rate is fair, and is perfectly balanced. I learned enough about how to handle a ship to sail one. However, I think that's only true for me as I had a great starting capital. Having to start as a poor man, you'll have to trade, trade and trade again, which prolongs this period a lot. It's not hard to make a million, once you have 100k reals. But it is very hard to get 100k, if you got nothing at all. Money makes money in this game, that's for sure. I love the way crafting quality works. I think it's a great system to have a random chance on a great ship, while alway ensuring a 3/5 ship. This makes crafting gold ships a long term goal, which is nice on the PvE server. It engages me to craft a lot of ships, which fuels the economy, and allows me to sell the basic ships to new players, helping them out on their first weeks. Continuing playing From here on, day 24, I kept playing, and came into the stage of slowing down. I started trading for reals and for Live and White Oak, so I could craft 1st rate ships. I created my own private clan as my warehouse was getting filled. On day 26 I leveled up again so I got access to 1000 crew, allowing me to sail all ships. I helped a few other players out with some cheap ships, I found rare books, crafted rare upgrades and used my time to enjoy Naval Action to the fullest. Now I'm settled, I love the relaxing atmosphere of the PvE server. So far I don't have the feeling I miss any content, however I imagine that some RPG story quests, as well as having collectibles would be a nice enhancement. Currently, skill books are the collectibles that keep me engaged. After that, I might want to get a gold ship of each ship type, but most likely I'm having too little port slots, which sucks (30 max with DLC). Things I would like to see prioritized in development, would be the addition of some more PvE content. For example PvE blockades, port raids and PvP duals (suggested here). Other nice things would be the Captain's Diary mentioned above, as well as some better trading mechanic - which I understand is already being developed. I also suggest that the new player experience should be reworked a bit, I think all new players should start in the Bahama's as a neutral faction, giving them the chance to fight 6 and 7th rate ships right in their harbor, as well as giving them time for deciding which nation would fit best. But above all: I love this game as it is (that is, if you have enough money and above 650 crew). I would like to thank the developers for making this gem of a game, and I hope they'll further polish it into a masterpiece. Thank you all for reading this far. Disclaimer From my experience, a lot of PvP players look down upon PvE players. From time to time however, PvP players join the PvE server, asking people questions like: "what are you doing here?", and "isn't it boring to play against bots?". To you guys, I would like to tell you that Naval Action PvE is a great game, relaxing in nature. I love to be able to be independent, not being forced do adapt every day to ports that are stolen under your countries nose, nor being obliged to defend your ports. I love how I could casually build up my belongings, collecting all kind of ships, books, without having unknown risks to lose them. In the current state of the game, I think the PvE server perfectly could hold up on her own.
  17. This idea have been purposed many times but it is a logical, solid idea which in my opinion should be in the game already. In any port where clan has a warehouse (see additional warehouse for clans post), there should be dockspaces for the clan. I do not need to tell what are the benefits of this feature, it is obvious, a great quality of life feature and realistic approach. A clan/tribe/guild in this game, is a rich estabishment, holding ports around the map, crafting SOLs, capturing towns. So why a clan does not have a DOCKSPACE for crafted ships ? Works just like the warehouse of the clan, officers can take ships and give to others, or anybody can put a ship in. How does it work ? At the certain port, any clan member donates some of his dock spaces to the clan dock, and a clan dock is formed. It can be 2 slots for 1 clan dock slots or different, I do not care. Clan can have dockspaces where clan has clan warehouses. What happens, a clan will have 5-7 dock space at warehouse, speeding up ship crafting and distribution. I do not see any negative sides but only benefits. Please share your ideas...
  18. I dont know if it was intentional by the Devs, but Tar resources is totally blocked by one nation, currently Sweden, since it not an open town, you cant place contract if you're not swede, that town gives the tactical advantage to be able to craft Cartagena Caulking Refit for the nation. I think unique resources (available only one port) should be in a free town
  19. Captains, I had grand plans of completing this before full release of the game, but I simply do not have the time. What I do have is about 75% complete overall and is enough to give the developers some ideas and inspiration of how to flesh the game out, add some color and flavor without having to rework mechanics. The entire approach here is to: Add many more things to harvest and more things to craft, if you want to Nothing that would force a player with limited time to have to do in order to play the game. However those who do choose to put the time and effort into the deeper crafting can get some unique rewards and like this epic open world map deserves, some deeper age of sail immersion. Historical Resources: The concept here is one I proposed last year, but this one is further refined. There are two types of resources, the first type are: Resources that naturally exist and can be harvested in the Caribbean, North America and South America. Resources that are imported from Europe, India, Africa and elsewhere. These can only be purchased in ports of the nation that either produces it in their homeland or dominates the trade of that product by opening a building called Trade Office. This gives each nations some unique and valuable products that they can trade or use; no one will have a resources that gives it an advantage in battle however. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T384qrwqg0CWYGlZDJ0z1jP_n9bcTI6PWaSS6rnqfsQ/edit?usp=sharing A more detailed (but unfinished) proposal below here, this one has 2 tabs and in tab 1 you can see the depth of crafting that would be available. The major change here is the ability to craft items that are not related to shipbuilding. Huge profits would be made taking the time to create 'Estate Goods' for example and hauling them to a capital or regional port of your ally. Or one could make spars and sell them on contract across the Caribbean. One could specialize in the fur trade, etc. It's all about choices and immersion. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XomSxvgZ6e2GAg0ZvOjfM3TqZR94-1iGbMJbVODoU-I/edit?usp=sharing Wood: I have proposed adding 4 new types of wood, splitting Teak into 2 historical types and Oak into 5 historical types. Click the link and it will make sense. I spent a lot of time over the last year researching and read primarily papers from the 19th and early 20th century on shipbuilding woods from the 18th to early 19th century. I love researching and working with wood in real life. (Note: Compass wood is not a wood, this may surprise some of you, but others already know this. Compass is a cut from a natural curve in a tree. Not every tree can produce compass timber. Frames and knees and other crucial parts were made from naturally grown curves. All the oaks produce the most compass timber due to the way they grow. Pines and Firs not as much. The British suffered a compass crisis so bad that several 74s sat unfinished in the shipyards for want of it in the late 18th century. You simply cannot grow a forest of compass wood. This proposal has your forest 'buildings' producing compass cuts based on quality of forest you have (Prime, Good or Sparse), the level (1, 2 or 3) and the tree type. Low percent productions would be 5% (Sparse level 1 Fir), top percent would be 25% (Prime, Level 3 Oaks). This makes compass cut frames more valuable as they should be! No panic if you have no compass cuts, thanks to a British shipbuilder who helped the Royal Navy out in it's crisis, there is a way to make Laminated Frames. These are not as strong as naturally curved timbers, but will do in a pinch, but you should take penalties to your HP and Planking if using Laminated Frames) Main reasons for this wood proposal: More historical choices and customization to match your style, sailing and combat needs while staying within the limits of the attribute range that is currently set between Fir and Live Oak. More types of wood to make shipbuilding more detailed and immersive. We will be building decks, keels, spars etc. The labor hours can be adjusted with this proposal so that crafting a frigate takes just as many as it does now, or it can be adjusted to where it takes longer, the devs can adopt this without overhauling that part, or they can choose to overhaul that part, making ships more valuable, it is flexible. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HRg4q7yxLlViQ6Ua5TP7wtz-xEHd6EK6en-ILdb_OVQ/edit?usp=sharing A unfinished write up on the wood types: Accurate Resource Locations: This is largely unfinished, but you will see where I was going with it. It works with the concept adapted by the devs original vision of not needed to sail further than 3 ports away to find everything you need to build a ship. If they were to scrap that idea, then this system is ready to go too. Here is how: There are regional forest types and different levels/qualities of forests, mines, plantations, farms etc. The resources can exist as they are now and every forest or mine that is there now would be considered 'basic' or 'sparse'. Productions levels would be adjusted the minimum to serve only in the building of ships for new players or players who don't have a lot of time to sail, but not enough there to stockpile or sell for profit elsewhere. This system adds Prime Forests, Good Forests and Sparse Forest and each forest has three levels you can upgrade to. There would no longer be 'Live Oak Forests' or 'Oak Forests', but rather a region will have either Temperate Hardwood, Temperate Evergreen, Dry Tropical, Temperate Coastal or Tropical. It will make sense when you open the link. Example: A level 2 Prime Temperate Hardwood Forest will produce 200 Oak, 50 Pine, 50 Fir, 0 Live Oak and 75 Craft Wood (which represents Birch, Cherry, Walnut etc); A level 2 Prime Temperate Coastal Forest will produce 50 Oak, 0 White Oak, 200 Live Oak, 50 Pine, 20 Fir and 20 Craft Wood, and so on. Tropical Forests will produce a ton of Craft Wood, which when harvested there will represent exotic tropical woods of course (there are a lot of things they will be used for, not just furnishings in shipbuilding as you will see) A region may have Sparse Temperate Coastal Forest and Prime Temperate Evergreen Forest available for you to build, some regions would only have Dry Tropical at varying qualities, or Tropical and so on, etc, etc. Forest Types represent what is accessible inland from that port, not just along the coast. (Note: Teak does not grow in the region of the game and currently this proposal and it would render the historical resource aspect silly if it were to be available as it is now. So Rangoon Teak (the less valuable) would be available in many ports as an import from the 'European Traders' in enough quantities to build with. Malabar Teak would be available in British ports, again brought by 'European Traders' or by players who open a Trading Office to 'harvest' it. This overall makes Teak a more valuable item in the game. In one of the images down below you will see a Mine tree I made, and then in the crafting list sheet you will see how these new resources are used. This is one of the part that I needed more time to complete, but again it adds a lot of depth for the crafters and some new (and historically accurate) ways to get rich. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gi0S2lV-lTvZpCzDAP2G_6ZkQhDOyb-6xwWBlIi0qHs/edit?usp=sharing Resource Map (this is one of the major unfinished parts) and some other vegetation maps I used to work from. The work is in the link above, these images are just superficial. Deeper historical Shipbuilding with endless options for customizing The new wood types and this system will allow you to build a ship out of many different types of timber, but no combination would be stronger than Live Oak is now and no combination of timber would be faster than Fir is now. This adds nuance and flavor to what we have. With this system, the wood you choose for your frames and the wood you choose for your planking defines your speed, planking and HP. You may find you personally like using Cuban Mahogany frames and Pine for your planking for your Le Gros Ventre, or you may choose to build your Bellona with White Oak frames and Rangoon Teak planking. This sheet has 4 tabs, tab 1 shows the potential uses of each wood type, 2 shows the effect on planking, HP and speed of each wood type, 3 shows every combination of frames and planking and their effects and 4 is some charts showing the stats. Here's the cool thing about it, you can choose not to care about this and you can still make all your planks from Oak and pick your frame wood type now and play the game, this adds options for customization. Many of us get a lot of joy out of testing different types of wood and modules on ships and race them, experiment making mission specific setups etc, this system is a wet dream for many players. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15vzY6NwiNPK2DPKdESM5WgLXTzFvJ8sZX_3d39WXtT8/edit?usp=sharing Other images that I used as information and other ideas for all of the above Port Consumption Ideas Lastly one of the ideas I had that I haven't had time to work on is for large ports to have basic needs that they can't supply themselves from the inland in theory. Grain, Sugar, Whale Oil, Turpentine etc, would have a minimum amount that needs to be brought to the port and sold to the AI every month. Any player in port could open a tab that shows how much more grain the port needs to meet it's minimum for that period. To work it would need AI trade fleets bringing a large portion of that every few days, thereby creating a meaningful incentive for players that prefer PVE to either attack or escort (work this into missions) . The rest would need to be brought by players, thus creating another way to make money and creating an attack/escort incentive for PVPers. Example: Charleston being a capital will buy any item you want to sell, national resources (like Dutch Laudanum or Russian Vodka) will always fetch top dollar, but it also has needs for the citizenry and labor force, like grain for example. Let's say it requires 150,000 grain each week; the AI traders bring 100,000, every ship that is captured by enemy players come off that amount. Players that bring a needed item can get good money for it, missions can be issued to players to protect trade fleets of grain etc. If the period ends and Charleston only has 110,000 grain delivered, it produces less of everything until the next period ends. Totals would not be cumulative. So everyone with a silver mine or Live Oak forest in Charleston would see lower production, but not enough to severely hurt you, just enough to make commerce raiding have meaning in the game. Also if all the basic needs of the port are met then all buildings would see a small boost for the period. If you made it this far, thank you for reading
  20. Introduction Building castles in the sky! I have just about 200 hours invested in this game. Most of that during the sea trials phase when there was no open world. I have spend 40-50 hours in the open world now. I have yet to actually win a PVP fight, or buy/craft a first rate. I'm not very high level.Nor have I played any other games similar to Naval Action, or worked on a dev team. Now, having said all that, here are my thoughts on what I would like this game to be in my own personal Utopia. If you agree with any of it, please comment, and maybe we will see it implemented in future. If you disagree, please keep it civil. Nations [N] I understand the desire of many people to sail under the flag of a certain nation. I love being able to fly the flag of my mother country myself, something that I'm not able to do in a lot of games. Having said that, I'm enough of a history nerd that seeing the "wrong" nations present bothers me. I'd like nations restricted to their historical starting positions. See [OW2] for ideas on nations. Having said all this, if we get a Baltic Sea "area" implemented, and the Russian nation decides to sail over and occupy Haiti, that's fine by me. Each nation should have a national government which should be made up of representatives from each of the three organizations. [See N 4-12 for organizations]The national government should have the ability to decide national policies through a voting system incorporated into the UI. This system would enable a player to make a suggestion, with a time limit for his fellow members to vote yay or nay. A majority of yays would mean the policy could go into effect on expiry of the timer. National policies - A limited list of ideas for what these could include: Raise / lower national taxes on x goods by x%. Create / cancel trade tariff of x% on x goods for x nation(s). Declare war on x nation. Sue for peace with x nation. Accept reject peace treaty / alliance with x nation. Offer alliance to x nation. Announce blockade of x nation's ports, making it illegal for citizens to trade with x nation, and making neutral ships within x distance of each port legitimate targets for citizens of blockading nation. Cancel blockade of x nation's ports. Issue warrant for player x with a reward of x for his capture. Each nation should be made up of players belonging to one of three organizations; the navy, the merchant marine or private captains. Clans should not be limited to players of a certain type, but should be able to recruit all kinds of players. The Navy - The navy should have a rank hierarchy. To rank up would need xp gained from missions issued by the ai navy, or from fighting foreign navies, much like xp are gained in-game now. Each rank would allow you to command larger ships, just like it does at the moment. I would like to see a few differences though - each rank should allow you to add more and or bigger ships to your fleet. Also, a navy player should not be able to command the largest merchant ships, and the rank requirements for merchant ships should be higher for each ship comparet to a player in the merchant marine. The ranks would also determine a players ability to initiate port battles and conquests, with larger battles reserved for the higher ranks. Battle and other groups should be limited in size by a player's rank. Players of the highest rank would be eligible for election to the national leadership. The national leadership of the navy would be responsible for setting priorities for the AI controlled national fleet, issue contracts for ship construction, and send representatives to the national government. The size of the leadership would be determined as a % of the number of players belonging to the navy and updated at intervals. AI fleet priorities - These would dictate the behavior of AI warships, and would be set by the leaders of a nations navy within the limits set by the national leadership. They could include trade protection, defensive patrols in x province, blockade duties of x ship type [warships/merchant ships] in x province. The priorities could be set as a % of each ship type assigned to the various duties. The decisions would be voted on by the navy leadership at regular intervals, and decided by a simple majority vote. AI ship construction - The navy leadership would issue contracts for warships, to be payed for using the national budget as determined by the national leadership at regular intervals. The contracts would be open for a set time, during which player crafters could build and sell ships to the navy at the set price. At the expiration of the timer the contract would be filled by AI crafters according to crafting capacity, and assuming the navy leadership set a price per ship that allows the AI crafters to make a profit. Player crafters, of course, could choose to meet orders at a loss, should they choose to do so. Player owned warships - Individual players would acquire their ships by crafting them, buying them on the open market, or buying them from the navy. Ships sold by the navy should be offered at ai determined prices, forcing the national and navy leadership to provide them at a loss, thereby making taxes and tariffs etc more relevant. The Merchant Marine - This organization should have an appropriate name in each nation. For example, the British merchant marine could be called the Honorable East India Company. Ranks in the merchant marine should govern the maximum crew and fleet size, as well as how many and what type of commercial orders can be created by a player. Merchant marine players should not be allowed to command the largest warships, and the rank requirements for warships should be higher than for players in the navy. The highest ranked players would be eligible for election to the board of directors of the merchant marine. Their responsibilities would include setting the insurance rates as a % of the value of the cargo transported by captains who desire insurance. The money made should go into a central account from which any claims would have to be filled. Merchant ship building - Merchant ships should be bought by the individual players from AI or player crafters. Merchant marine escorts- The board of directors would be responsible for issuing contracts for the construction of escort ships to be allocated to AI escort captains or sold to Merchant marine players who wish to take on that role. The ships would be payed for with money made from insurance profits, if available. Private Captains - These captains are free to play what ever role they desire in the nation. There should be no leadership for private captains, apart from the national leadership. Ship availability and crew/ fleet size should be dependent on player rank, and players should be restricted from owning the largest warships and merchant-ships. Letters of marque - These should be available for purchase by private captains, and be required in order for a player to purchase any but the smallest warships. Import / Export permits - These should be available for purchase by private captains, and be required for trade with ports outside the player's own nation. A separate document should be required for trade with each foreign nation. Sailing without a letter of marque / shipping contract - Sailing in a warship without a letter of marque would classify a player as a pirate and make him liable to be attacked by players of any nation as well as AI patrols. Sailing without an import/export permit would classify a player as a smuggler and make him liable to be attacked by a navy player of any nation as well as by AI patrols after his ship has been inspected. Outposts should be build-able by merchant players. Navy players should be able to build naval bases. Independent players should be able to build bases. Naval bases should have increased dock-space, but be unable to construct resource buildings such as farms. Outposts should likewise be limited to more civilian / trade focused buildings. Pirates Pirates should not be a nation. Piracy should be a legal status, as as such anyone wanting to play as a pirate should simply engage in piracy. It should not be possible to start the game as a pirate, although a new character could make himself a pirate instantly by illegally attacking a ship. Pirate havens - Pirates should not be allowed access to normal ports except through the smuggling mechanic. Instead, each island/ selected islands should have a hidden pirate cove. Players would identify these by engaging a mode in-game and sailing near / around an island for a sufficient time. Once identified, a pirate cove would be claimed by a pirate as his base, providing dock & warehouse space. Smaller versions of production buildings would be construct-able in pirate coves, reflecting the illegal nature of society in these places. I'm sure some unique ones could be imagined, making some form of profitable production possible for pirates. A cove could be shared by a number of pirates, such as a clan. Such groups would still not be considered nations though. Progression Different types of players should gain XP in different ways. I have listed the various player types above. Navy players should gain rank in the navy through earning combat XP. I see no reason to change anything about the way such XP are awarded at the moment. Navy players should earn less XP through trade. Let's say a 50% reduction, just for the sake of argument. Merchant players should earn XP through trade. Just like combat awards XP based on damage done, trade could award XP based on profits earned. Not simply on money made through selling things, but on actual profit. This would incentivize players to find profitable trade routes, as well as motivate them to sail farther afield despite the risks of piracy etc. Merchant players should earn less XP from combat. Let's say 10% of combat XP from battles where the merchant was the aggressor, and 90% from combat where the merchant was attacked by another player. After all, we don't want merchants to just linger in the safe zones! Diplomacy See [N 3] for how wars are declared, etc. Member(s) of the national leadership could be designated as a diplomat. A diplomat would use a UI function to propose/demand terms in order to agree a peace treaty. Once the dipomats have agreed terms, they would become available for ratification in the national leadership UI. All this should have real world time limits, enabling offensives, victories and losses to influence negotiations in progress. Diplomats should also be able to hammer out alliances using a similar system. Alliances should enable ships from separate nations to enter battles on the same side when fighting nations they are at war with. National leaderships should be able to define separate tarrifs for trade from allied nations. Intelligence Gathered by spies and networks established in enemy ports. Each spy/network would be able to gather only one type of intelligence. There ought to be four types of intelligence: Military, Commercial, Diplomatic and Technological. Military Intelligence- This would cover the number and type of ships based at the port as well as the number of troops and forts. Commercial Intelligence - This would cover stockpiles of goods, needs, availability and prices. Diplomatic Intelligence- This would cover any treaties, wars, orders, etc. currently in force. Technological Intelligence - This would cover the currently available technology, and perhaps give a chance to acquire same. Employing spies- Spies would be open world NPC's with skill levels and experience. They would be employable by players, nations, and companies. The employer would be charged a salary cost every day/month/year to keep the spy in his employ. Networks- A group of spies deployed in the same port by the same employer would form a network. The larger the network the more information it would be able to provide. The larger the network the easier it would be to detect. Counter-intelligence- A police chief/policemen would be other employable NPCs in the open world. They would limit the amount of intelligence enemy spies can gather, and also give a chance of capturing the spies working in a port. Ports and Capture Port capture should take place in phases. Phase one would require a declaration of war on the nation owning the port. Phase two would be a port battle as they are currently present in the game. In case the aggressor is victorious the next phase is enabled. Phase three would involve landing a force of soldiers to take control of the hinterland. The soldiers would have to be transported in on merchant ships, and there would be a timer for this activity. The troop transports would be intercept-able by defending ships. The number of soldiers necessary would be determined by the size of the target force, as well as any defending troops. If a sufficient number of troops are landed in phase three, the port is considered occupied. An occupied port contributes taxes to the occupying nation, and any buildings/ships are inaccessible to players from the original nation, except as per the smuggling mechanic. To gain permanent ownership of a port, it has to be ceded as part of an official peace treaty. This would slow down & hopefully limit zerging. Each port should have a governor. The governor would be responsible for local taxes and docking fees. He would be able to use this income to construct defenses and improvements. Possible improvements include infrastructure, such as roads which would give a bonus to any production buildings present. Housing, which would give a bonus to population growth. The governor could also invest in crop diversification, or introducing new industries, each of which would result in new production buildings becoming available. Each effort would have a real time implementation period, as well as a resource and money cost, and would have a chance of failure. Economy All ports should have a maximum capacity for buildings, determined by their population. Players should have priority in taking up this capacity, but any unoccupied capacity should be filled by AI producers. All goods should be produced in buildings either by players or AI. No goods should "drop" at any port. Goods should be transported by AI traders to meet first basic needs of ports lacking that good, and secondly luxury & production needs. Goods not produced in the Caribbean (or any other area)should need to be imported to that area from an area where such goods are available. All production buildings should be construct-able by players in ports where production of that good is possible. Production buildings should have needs. These could be basic, e.g. food for the workers, as well as advanced needs, e.g. a sugar farm would need slaves and fertilizer. These needs combined with the needs of the general population of the island would dictate prices in the local market. AI traders and small craft should follow routes designed to meet the needs of the cities. Sinking them should be a means of economic warfare, and protecting them should be important for players. The triangular trade was of enormous importance to the major powers at the time of the game. Thus I'd love to see it represented in-game. In case political correctness is a concern, slaves can be referred to as indentured labor. African indentured labor should originate in Africa, obviously, and Chinese indentured labor should be available from American ports. Historically the Chinese laborers arrived a bit later than the game period, but i suppose that can be forgiven. Players should be able to set up contracts offering loans of all kinds of money which would be repaid with interest determined by the lender. Players should be able to send trading ships on runs under AI control, to help keep important ports supplied. If a ship is lost under AI control it is destroyed. Goods transported this way would be sold to the shop in the target port, or delivered to the player's warehouse, depending on the player's choice when setting up the trade run. It should also be possible to ship owned goods from a warehouse in this way. More than one player should be able to join their AI ships together, creating convoys that sail together. It should also be possible to define the route taken by a convoy, and to drop off ships at ports passed. There should be an option to purchase insurance for any cargo. Insurance rates should depend on a player's history of successful or otherwise delivery of cargoes during his career. It should be possible for players to sell insurance to other players as well, at any rate desired. Crafting & Ships Each nation should rely mainly on ships historically employed by that nation. Blueprints for non-national ships should be more expensive to get - perhaps only obtainable through technology espionage. Upgrades should be craft-able, and dependent upon crafting level, so that only an expert crafter is able to craft the best upgrades. I do like the book system that we have now, so perhaps upgrades could be "learnt" from books, and then require a certain level to craft. Crew/Marines/Soldiers Crew should be recruit-able in ports subject to limitations of population size. Crew should be divided into categories according to skill levels - Landsmen (a small malus to re-load times, sail setting etc), Seamen (no bonus or malus), Able Seamen (a smal bonus) and priced according to their skill level. Lower leveled crew should be upgrade-able once they gain some experience. Crew should require food and water to be carried in a ship's hold. Lack of either should lead to crew deaths. Food and water should be consumed over time, limiting a ship's radius of action without replenishing these supplies from a port. Related to the above, relevant illnesses, such as scurvy, should be modeled, along with preventives, such as vitamin c rich fruits. Marines should be recruit-able for navy captains subject to the same limitations as crew. Soldiers should be recruit-able by port governors for defensive purposes subject to the same limitations as crew, and the availability of defensive buildings with spare capacity. They should also be recruit-able for merchant and private captains, subject to the same limitations as crew, for the purpose of port capture. Soundtrack I would love to be able to listen to a soundtrack of period music, including both instrumental/classical music popular at the time as well as shanties and sailor's songs in general. To make this even better, the soundtrack ought to reflect your nationality, so that a British captain would hear, for example, Hearts of Oak, but a Danish captain would not. Open World (OW) Spotting distance- I would like this to depend on the mast height of your ship, as well as the mast height of the other ships in the area. A cutter would not be as easy to spot as an SOL, etc. Related to this, I would like national flags to be rendered on open world ships, and I'd like the ability to fly a false flag. Just like in history, it should be illegal to fire at another ship while flying a false flag (unless you happen to be a pirate!), and there should be penalties for doing so. This would necessitate the creation of a system like the RN's private signal, or, in modern terms, IFF. A hotkey ordering the crew to hoist the private signal would do. The other ship would then respond, or not. A nice ( and i hope) simple way to introduce some more tension! Further, it would be nice if ships sank below the horizon, or vice versa, rather than pop in and out of view range. Size- this is definitely utopian, but hear me out. I'd like the world extended to the west coast of Africa and Europe, as well as southwards along the coast of South America. This would have several benefits. Portugal could become an in-game nation. The safe zones could be moved to the European coast for most nations. See other relevant sections for more detail. Alternatively a sort of off-map boxes could be used to achieve the same effect without having to create a huge map with all the problems that entails. Such a system could also be used to link a series of smaller maps, or theaters. The Caribbean would obviously be one. The Mediterranean could be another, the Baltic a third. Perhaps the English Channel and part of the North Sea would also be a nice addition. Off map boxes - These should rely on a teleportation mechanic that charges money and is not instant. I.e. to send a ship to the Baltic from the Caribbean could cost 50,000, and take 1 hour of real time to arrive. It should be possible to teleport ships with cargo in the hold when traveling to/from off map boxes. The same mechanic could be used to travel between separate map areas. This teleport should not work directly from port to port. Rather it should create a random-ish exit point on your current map. Once you reach that exit point the UI should prompt you in the same way it does on approaching a port, and by cicking the prompt you'd initiate the teleport. The player should be prompted to return to his outpost, like after losing his ship in battle (if the time delay mechanic is implemented). Winds- I would like the wind to be more closely based on actual weather patterns. With somewhat predictable winds, players will be channeled into certain routes/choke-points where PVP combat will naturally occur. Of course, due to the speeding up of time, real world patterns would not work well in game, but something similar to them, with an element of randomization would be very nice indeed. See here for animated wind map: http://yachtibis.com/caribbean-weather/ Ship inspection - Navy players and AI patrols should be able to perform an inspection by remaining close to a ship in the open world for a certain amount of time. Only after such an inspection is carried out should any smuggler status be revealed to the inspecting fleet. Ports- Each port should have a population. The size of the population would dictate the needs of the port, which in turn would dictate prices in that port's market. Shortage- A shortage of essential goods in a port should lead to a decrease in population in that port. Workforce- the available population should dictate how many production buildings can be constructed in that port. Exploration - The Caribbean was more or less fully explored in the geographical sense by our period. Exploration should follow the idea of the historical artifact good available now. These should be sub-divided into, for example, Mayan artifacts, Voodoo dolls, etc., as well as natural history artifacts, such as new species of insects etc. These should not be available in shops, unless they have been sold to the shop by a player. Instead, there should be fetch quests along the lines of the current sealed bottle mechanic. These should come from buildings available to governors to construct in their port. These buildings would be named after, for example, The National Geographic Society, depending on the nation. They could also be generated by ship's officers, with the relevant skill. Navigation - At noon each in-game day the ships position should be marked on the map. This should be weather dependent and in-exact to a degree. AI ships should spawn at ports, and require resources to build. Hence, if I sink an AI snow, the owning port would spend enough resources to rebuild that ship as it re-spawns it. AI ships should have proper missions. Hunt merchants, escort them, protect an area, etc. AI ships on a protection mission should attack players and other ai that intrude on their turf. There should be enough AI ships in the world to keep the economy going, but not so many that players can make no difference. Not that the role of the AI ships should be to keep the ECONOMY going, so simply to spawn as random targets! NPC Characters All NPCs should have appropriate skills, and be able to acquire more through leveling up. The employing player should be allowed to control the leveling up process, but if the NPC leaves his employ and is subsequently hired by a different player, it should not be possible for the new employer to re-arrange skills already gained. NPCs should be randomly generated and become available to employ in ports according to a logical system. A national capital should have more NPC available than other ports. The numbers generated should also depend on the type of port and the population level. NPCs should be transportable, just like the trade goods representing various persons we have in-game at the moment. There should be employable officers with a portrait and name available. Each ship should have slots for an appropriate number of named NPCs, effectively replacing the perk mechanic. Officer NPCs should give bonuses in suitable areas, according to the experience level of each officer. Each officer should have a chance of death in combat, and in case of capture should have a small chance of becoming available to the capturing player. Buildings should require NPC managers, with skill levels governing the output of a building. Each NPC should have, and gain as they level up, skills relevant to their position. The skills should provide bonuses and maluses, giving the officers a sense of personality. Example skills could be natural scientist, which would generate mini-quests that give the player a chance of acquiring valuable goods such as "insert name of rare butterfly here". More examples to come. Player Characters Avatar - Each player character should be represented by an avatar. I love the art style of the game so far, and I'd really enjoy a full length portrait of my captain wearing the appropriate uniform for his nation, rank and organization. Name - I'd love for each character to have a first name, a family name and a nickname. There should be some form of personalisation or role-playing aspects to a player character. The ability to buy a home in a port, preferably with a nice piece of art to enjoy. To find a wife, even if she is nothing but a portrait. To have children once a wife is present. These children could then grow up to be NPCs in their own right. In-game Encyclopaedia I would like to see one. I would like it to contain entries on the nations in the game, the history of their presence in the area, as well as entries on ports containing a brief history and perhaps basic information such as what production buildings are available there, populations size and type, current owner, etc. Sailing I'd like to see leeway modeled in the open world. I'd like to see the open world ability to sail directly into the wind changed to more realistic behavior. PVP I can't state strongly enough the belief that artificially encouraged pvp doesn't work well in an open world game. If you want merchants for pirates to attack you need an economy with appropriate game-play loops for traders to engage in. Rewards to motivate people to take the risk of being attacked by pirates. The economy is the bedrock on which the rest of this game should rest. Damage & Repairs In addition to sail damage I'd like to see rigging damage. To repair this would necessitate a new type of consumable. Crew damage should be split up into the various crew types outlined above, and dependent on hit location. Thus, chain to the sails and rigging would be much more likely to kill topmen. Damaged and destroyed cannon don't seem to have any impact after a battle at the moment. I'd this to be changed. I'd like to see weather damage to rigging and sails, as a consequence of raising too much sail in strong winds. Missions Passenger mission. Port to port. Fishing contract. Catch x amount of fish. Issued by ports lacking in food and at risk of population shrinkage. Ships Fishing vessels. Ability to convert traders cargo space to horse/cattle transport. Add passenger capacity to all ships. Ability to convert cargo hold to troop transport I'm done for now. I reserve the right to add more ideas, should any occur to me.
  21. In my opinion there is an issue with doubloon prices regarding crafting, permits, and everything else. They are too high. What do you think?
  22. Dicussion thread for econ and crafting changes made on the testbed (and to be added onto the live server in the future). 1. Piastries/reals/gold (whatever we call it, i'll call it silver from now on) and doubloons Hard to say because we still get rewards lile we do on the live server. Just a change really and i'm fine with it. 2. Materials wiped and only resources left. Good change in my opinion, it allows crafting to be less clicks, made more understandable for players to know exactly what they need. I will give praise to the devs where it is due in my opinion. 3. Mission rewards as an economy change. Are fine by me, and variety is a good thing. 4. Lineships costing a TON of doubloons. A good change, I support the decision to make larger ships cost a lot more. Specifically that a player is still able to craft all craftable ships, but lineships are now rightfully more expensive. The part I dislike is that I can only compare feedback with rewards we get now when we have been told it is changing.
  23. TL;DR - I propose Labor Hours become "Real Hours" or "Real Time" in that we do away with Labor Hour generation in-game and instead setup functions where you want X to be built or extracted. So it'll take Y time to finish (i.e. I want a lynx to be built, it takes 32 minutes to finish a Lynx being built. so When I click "create," 32 minutes later a Lynx will be finished and I can then "finish the job" and bring it into my shipyard.) How Crafting and Resource extraction is currently setup In order to Craft or take resources out of a building you need to wait until you have the required amount of labor hours. Labor hours generate at a rate of roughly 42 labor hours fr every hour. I am proposing that we get rid of labor hours and in it's place we add "real time." This would very much be similar to how you craft ships and materials in Eve Online. Explained further below. In Eve Online, there IS NOT a labor hour limit, but there IS a limit to how fast things can be created. Something as small as a Frigate in Eve Online could take 20 minutes to finish building, whereas a Super-Carrier or Titan can take 2-4 Months of real time to finish being produced. I propose that a player should be able extract resources from a building whenever they want and however much they want BUT it would take time to do so. similar to an assignment you may hire a contractor to re-model your kitchen or bathroom and they would come back saying "it should take about 2 weeks." FOR BUILDINGS every resources would have an "extraction rate" for example, for ever REAL hour spent in life, you would be able to extract 200 Iron Ore from an iron ore building. You may only have 1 Job running per Building you own (so you cannot have 5 different jobs of extracting Iron Ore from a building, they would do 1 job at a time). 1. You setup your Iron Ore Building 2. Through a game function, you request X amount of Iron Ore to be extracted from the Mine/Building. In my example of 200 Iron Ore is extracted for every 1 Hour of real time. a player can request the Mine to extract 3,000 units of Iron Ore, the game would prompt the player that in order to extract the 3,000 units of Iron Ore it would take 15 hours to fully extract. the player could adjust the amount of iron ore they want extracted, resulting in less time to wait or more time to wait. 3. Once the "contract" is accepted, the player waits until the job is finished. You could stop, or delete the job but you would not get an reimbursement, or partial extraction, you must wait the time of the job to finish. 4. Once the job is finished, you would "redeem" the job after paying the "labor costs" from the building, and the Iron Ore would jump into your warehouse. Essentially what this would do in the game is allow folks to Request for "Long jobs" to keep on going if a player does not expect to be online. A player could say "Hey, I won't be able to be in-game for a couple days due to real-life circumstance, so let me create a job to extract some resources while I'm gone, and by the time I come back I should have X amount and be ready to craft a ship or mod once I get back home and playing Naval Action again." FOR CRAFTING You have resources as we do know, but instead of waiting for the right amount of Labor Hours to generate, you now wait an X amount of time for the construction of a mod, of Cannons, or a ship is created. This could be of varying times and I definitely don't have the answer for what times would be best, but i'll place some examples: A. It could take 15 minutes to craft a Spanish Rig Refit B. It takes 1 hour to craft 10 - 12 pd Cannons C. It takes 5 hours to craft a surprise Crafting would be similar to how extracting resources would work, you'd wait for the job to finish and then be able to take the item or ship to your warehouse or docks once it is complete. There are a few differences though. 1. You can have as many Jobs created for different tasks. I.E = you could have 4 module jobs, 6 Cannon jobs, and 3 Ship crafting Jobs happening at once OR you can have a numbr of jobs happen at the same time up to a limit of (lets say) 10. 2. Labor Contracts could "speed up" the process. Before you start the job, there could be an option to "increase job productivity" and you would input X amount of labor contracts to speed up the job process. Not sure by how much, but for an example, each labor contract could decrease the time it takes for a job to finish by 5-10%. 3. Current player-owned port enhancements could further reduce the time it takes to make items or ships I believe there is both pros and cons to this method. Pros - --Allows players to extract resources on their terms and on their schedule. --Allows the player to know that they will get exactly X amount at a certain time. --During extraction a player can be doing other activities in-game, such as sailing, trading, battling NPCs or players. --A player can have ships and equipment being built while they do other activities Cons - -- European Trader would most likely have to go, be erased as a mechanic, or changes to also be a "Real time wait" - being able to instantly get resources now from the EU trader I feel is a "cheat" to get past the irritating Labor Hours limitation and it just covers up an issue with how crafting works. --May make resource extraction and equipment/ship production feel "longer." It may make people feel that things take longer to make instead of being able to click "craft" and done. (we already sort of wait anyway) --Further on players having to wait, it may make lineships take a long time to finish. it could be that a 2nd rate "job" would take 10 days to fully complete. --It is possibly a waste of Dev time to convert to this method as overall it doesn't make crafting "faster" it just changes the method of how materials and ships are crafted. I.E. = Now we wait for labor hours and then craft, this method would be that we craft and then wait for the job to finish. Overall my goal of this suggestion was considering those who believe the Labor Hour generation limits crafting in a negative way as well as players considering Labor Hours to be "more useful" when used in one way instead of another. I want to promote the ability to not be limited to a particular "resource" that forcefully limits players from building or crafting certain things. Instead (and I know it may be ironic) I am promoting the ability for a player to be delayed (or not delayed) by time BUT be able to crafting anything they want on any day with the only limitation being the resources they have in their warehouse. My other goal was to "level the crafting playing field" and promote players who play more casually or "not everyday" to be able to run extraction or crafting jobs and not feel like they are "wasting" valuable labor hour generations. if someone hasn't played in 5 days, and we assume they are level 50 crafting, they have "lost" a possible 3,000 labor hours to work with, whereas someone who has played everyday for 5 days is ahead of that plays by roughly 3,000 labor hours. Maybe that is alright in some people's eyes, but I believe it creates a growing gap between these players and then is further exaggerated when a "casual players" loses a ship versus a hardcore everyday player.
  24. I'm putting this suggestion here in hope it will get a Developer's attention. I can't stress this enough; I and numerous L-50 crafters in our Clan all feel strongly that WE need to be able to craft higher quality purple and gold ships, please consider taking the drop-by-chance out of the mix or increase it. I suggest a recipe of an extra "something" will give the crafter important satisfaction to making a special ship. Maybe a specialized additional permit from Admiralty stating "This is to be applied to one exceptional quality ship" (purple) and a more expensive permit for Gold quality.
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