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  1. This is the Farquharson Regular ship of the Honorable East India Company, the largest merchant ship in the world during the period in which naval action is set. 1400 tons armed with 56 18lb cannon and had a recorded top speed of 12.5 knots
  2. Le Vengeur French indiaman/3rd Rate 64 guns 1756 The Vengeur was a 64-gun ship of the line of the French Navy designed by Antoine Groignard. She saw action with Bailli de Suffren during the American War of Independence. Model: Plans: This plan is probably from: https://www.amazon.fr/Vaisseaux-fr%C3%A9gates-Choiseul-Sartine-Marine/dp/B000XA74IS Stern decorations by Philippe Caffieri. Full plan available in the French archives No 277:http://www.servicehistorique.sga.defense.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/MV_PLANS-BATIMENTS-A-VOILES.compressed.pdf Drawing from the book: Ship Decoration 1630-1780 by Andy Peters https://books.google.gr/books?id=RoyuCAAAQBAJ&pg=PT179&lpg=PT179&dq=le+vengeur+caffieri&source=bl&ots=7v9gaG2bo7&sig=-rIdCxNkqNN9gal_0QJD8p4F_X0&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiK_tbgqOHOAhUBtBQKHfvXB7UQ6AEIGjAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Characteristics: Length: 48 m (157 ft) Beam: 12.34 m (40.5 ft) Draught: 5.2 m (17 ft) Complement: 396 men Displacement: 1300 tonnes Armament: Lower battery: 24 x 24-pounder long guns Upper battery: 28 x 12-pounder long guns Quarterdeck: 6 x 6-pounder long guns Forecaste: 2 x 6-pounder long guns Sources*: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Vengeur_(1765)#cite_note-FCDIVengeur-2 http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/913933/FCDI%20Vengeur http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2373 http://5500.forumactif.org/t540p400-discussion-generale-sur-l-artesien http://www.leradoubduponant.com/t965p225-le-radoub-du-ponant-origine-des-voiles-royales *The sources are conflicting in dimensions and armament. Need confirmation. Histoire des vaisseaux le Vengeur et la Belle-Poule: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6359176k.r=Histoire%20des%20vaisseaux%20le%20Vengeur%20et%20la%20Belle-Poule?rk=21459;2
  3. The French East India Company (1664-1794) Between 1720 and 1770, the Company gained a great prosperity and built more than 300 ships, a third of them being two-deck ships from 600 to 1500 ton. Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_East_India_Company La Paix, 1764 : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66472.html Le Boullongne 600-ton French fluyt, 1759 20 guns (6-pdrs) Source : http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/boullon/bou_2.htm Built in Lorient by G. Cambry on behalf of the French East India Company. Design (especially the interior) is a bit different from ships built by and for the French Royal Navy, such as Le Gros Ventre, to serve as a freight transport ship. Named after Jean de Boullongne, French magistrate and politician. Captured by the British in 1762. Length (gundeck) : 126' Breadth : 30' Depth in hold : 11'8" Monograph and plans : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/63-monographie-du-boullongne-v-cie-des-indes-1759.html?search_query=boullongne&results=2 Shipmodels : http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/boullon/bou_index.htm http://www.amarsenal.be/05_MM_19_SDB01.htm http://enguerrand.gourong.free.fr/oceanindien/p19oceanindien.htm Source : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=16503
  4. Le Bertin/Belleisle French Indiaman/British 3rd Rate 28(?)/64 guns 1760 (Probably the plan of the original): (Probably after the British refit): (i wonder from which book is the picture above ) http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81234.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81235.html Specifications: Length of Gundeck: 157' 10" French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 51.2643 meters Length of Keel: 139' 10" French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 45.4179 meters Breadth: 40' 6" French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 13.1544 meters Depth in Hold:17' 9" French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 5.7652 meters Armament: French service: Upper Gun Deck: 28 x French 12-Pounder British service(1761): Lower Gun Deck: 26 x British 24-Pounder Upper Gun Deck: 28 x British 18-Pounder Quarterdeck: 8 x British 9-Pounder Forecastle: 2 x British 6-Pounder (1782): Lower Gun Deck: 24 x British 68-Pound Carronade Upper Gun Deck: 26 x British 42-Pounder Carronade Quarterdeck/Forecastle: 8 x British 24-Pound Carronade Crew: French service: 199, 10 officers, 189 crew, "when armed en-flute" British service(1761): 500 (1782): 420 blaze it Info from British Warships in the Age of Sail 1793-1817 : https://books.google.gr/books?id=Ge8kCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT179&lpg=PT179&dq=le+bertin+1760&source=bl&ots=fKlhPyKca0&sig=AZHLdugXsJUk3Amh5knBx2C927k&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiszbvYu_LLAhWCDCwKHRiXBgcQ6AEINjAE#v=onepage&q=le%20bertin%201760&f=false Le Bertin: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=15839 Belleisle: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=617 Any info,plans or pictures are welcome
  5. Spotted this quoted elsewhere and what follows is a possible partial explanation and at least a partial solution. I am not a zero-risk player but I started on PvE. I am a long-term Civilization player and I rather blundered into NA while looking for something more interesting than Sid Meyer's Pirates. I've never done anything even remotely similar to NA or online multiplayer. The US nation on PvE was a place to sort out the game mechanics. But there is structural obstacle in the economy that frankly contributes to boredom on PvE. It affects the Caribbean server as well, but less obviously so. I've posted about this before. There seems to be very little interest in the community on the matter. The bottom-up view on this is that the inability to see contract activity without visiting a port creates a functional bottleneck in player economic activity. It is probably not an issue with high server populations. But in a low population environment, either on the server as a whole, or in a particular region, it is going to be a game killer. The effect on PvE is that a player very rarely can get a contract filled outside of a national capital. At any price. It is a feedback loop. Since since the econ activity is in the Capital, that is where you do the contracts, and resulting in very little buy/sell activity outside of it. Which means a PvE player really can't get very far from a national capital if they are interested in at least some interaction with other players. I circuited Cuba scouting the area (from Charleston) and the Caribbean region was pretty much a player desert. My opinion, is that at a minimum, player buy/sell contracts need to be on equal footing in the trader tool with the port stock. I watch port stock looking for reasonable consistency in availability before I spend time sailing any distance. The same thing ought to be true of buy / sell contracts rather than the current complete crapshoot. It would be nice to see the same thing with ship sales but making contracts visible would remove the bottleneck. The econ activity would be present elsewhere to actually support shipyards outside the green zone. In the PvP environment it is possible to kludge around the problem by maxing out outpost permits. But addressing contract visibility would help here as well. Player activity would start to spread out beyond the green zones and at least some of the argument about green zone mechanics and OW incentives would become irrelevant. Including the argument over taxes. Would like at least a yes, this is on our radar, or we have this alternative in mind, or no. An explanation would be nice, but I can live with a flat no, and I will not quibble with that, or any explanation you offer. I suspect this is not a trivial coding project and it is your game.
  6. Prolog Recently i got more into trading and one thing that annoys me most is waiting. Waiting for the other guy to finally reach the port where the trading will happen. Sure it would be possible to place a contract but sometimes we dont want to trade goods for money. Its not possible to trade goods for goods other than player to player trade. Therefore I suggest: Suggestion: Players can place contracts for a specific person with goods for goods trade option. Here is one example: @rediii wants to buy 300 pve marks for 10 pvp. We both agree and set La Tortue as trading location. He is still occupied and needs 20 min to reach La Tortue. Currently i would have to wait 20min. 20 mins are not enough time to start a fight or whatever. Its wasted time for me. But with the specific contract that works like a player to player trade but without being there at the same time there is no wasted time anymore. How it works: I place a contract and enter rediiis name. The trading window could look like this: Now i can leave port and do whatever and my time is not wasted i can deliver content to other players. Rediii now has xy amount of time (maybe 1 maintenance cycle) to claim the contract by paying with 10 pvp marks. This contract would simulate a middleman. He would ofc receive a fee ( tax generation for the port) It could be a fix fee because calculation of the tradevalue will be hard when no money is involved. Fee contains rating of trading good and their amount. Its simulates a middleman and rented warehousespace (numbers presented are just examples) Rules of the Player to Player Contract: Its like the current contracts with some additions. Its possible to withdraw before the other person claims the contract. If the contract isnt concluded in the timeframe (my suggestion was 1 maintenance cycle) the Item returns to the owner + fee has to be paid. When contract is placed the player named in the contract receives a Mail with all contract details, when contract is cancelled the player receives a message as well Both players have to pay a fee fee could depends on item category and amount (kind of similar to the old delivery system) Pros: less time waiting more time to be content in ow quality of life improvement Improves port value items still have to be hauled in OW no Scam what you see is what you get Uncertain: easier alt trading but alts would contribute towards portowners (more tax) Cons: Annyoing other players by canceling the contract
  7. HMS Glatton 56-gun ship built for the East India Company , it was purchased by the Royal Navy in 1795 and converted into a warship. His artillery was composed only of " carronades " - heavy pieces short barrel for close combat and requiring much less gunners to serve them. The " carronades " inflicted terrible damage by sweeping the deck of opposing ship . The French suffered cruelly this English innovation before adopting a few years later. In 1801 HMS Glatton was commanded by Captain Bligh (future commander of the Bounty ) who distinguished himself in the eyes of Nelson.
  8. Dimensions (imperial) length 144' 3' breadth 38' 1' draught aft 17' 9'' height of middle gunport above the waterline: 8' 5'' Length-to-breadth-ratio: 3.78 Armament 26 danish 18-pounders 16 danish 8-pounders Crew 389 Launched 1778, transferred to Asiatic Company in 1781, broken up 1795 (five voyages to India) Ships in class: Pommern (1784)
  9. German convoy ship 1722 "Wapen von Hamburg" The wapen from Hamburg (III) from 1722 was a Hamburg ship convoy. It was commissioned by the Hamburg Admiralty and the Hamburg merchants in order and had to accompany the task convoys of Hamburg's overseas trading partners and to protect them from enemy attacks or raids by corsairs and pirates. When the convoy ships thus it was with permanent warships escort mission, the 1669-1747 sheltered in Hamburg's convoy shipping and ensured trade to and from Hamburg and thus a place in Hamburg's position as a trading center sustainable. corrected her name bungee
  10. Buyer Beware! The following players are known to relieve honest captains of their hard-earned materials, leaving them without funds, without ships, and without recourse. Cast shame upon these individuals, and avoid business with them! For players adding in names, please provide screenshots of materials being transferred and/or conversations. Screenshots are ideal. Based on situations, descriptions, and discussions, I will try to keep things as fair as possible for players making the accusation and being put on the list. I am only human, but I will be using my best judgment. I'll strive to keep this up to date as my own pet project, as there are enough other people on the forums providing other valuable services to the community. ---------- PvP1 British LtDean (formerly of TRR clan) VpFalcon (currently of TRR clan) Injuring Mother (currently of TRR clan)
  11. I am looking for more info on these Ships. 1. fregat de 'Mary en Hillegonda' 2. driemastschip Johanna Cornelia (Armed Trader?)
  12. HMS Halifax (formerly the Nova Soctia Packet) HMS Halifax began life as the Nova Scotia Packet, built by a group of Halifax-based merchants to establish a regular maritime mail and passenger service between Halifax, Nova Scotia, and Boston, Massachusetts. In July 1768 she was commissioned by Admiral Hood to carry dispatches to England. Hood also recommended that the vessel be purchased into service with the Royal Navy, the vessel duly being taken onto strength and refitted in Portsmouth. After its return to North America in January of 1769, Halifax captured the schooner Liberty and had an active service-life until being wrecked in 1775 on Foster Island, off of Maine. Later records include mention of a Halifax on the same lines as the original vessel, so the ship may have been salvaged and returned to service. A two-masted schooner, the Halifax/Nova Scotia Packet is a small vessel, with a deck length of 58 ft 3 in and a beam of 18 ft 3 in. At this size she is smaller than the Cutter, and would make a suitable replacement for the Trader's Cutter, possibly also the Trader's Lynx*, as an entry level trading vessel. As HMS Halifax the vessel carried 6x3-pdr cannon, 3 mounted upon each side, however I cannot find mention of whether the Nova Scotia Packet carried cannon or not. As the smallest cannon available to us in-game is a 4-pdr cannon, it could carry those as its armament as opposed to the 3-pdr, unless in future we'll get the 3-pdr. Regarding cargo capacity, the Halifax had a tonnage capability (burthen) of 83bm. As everything regarding cargo space is boosted, this could be increased to match the tonnage of the Trader's Cutter/Lynx. *It would probably be best to keep one small, fast, vessel suitable for smuggling work. Obligatory pictures of models:
  13. 'Falmouth' The Falmouth was commenced by Mr. Perry to Blackwall Yard (England) on the 22nd of August 1750 and launched on 14th August 1752 as show on page 27 of "Chronicles of Blackwall Yard" by Henry Green and Robert Wigram . It was the first trading vessel of the English Indiaman Companies and showed a close resemblance to a warship in sail plan and rigging, with the most up-to-date reef-points to her topsails The ship was equipped with a large amount of artillery, unusual for the trading vessels of that period. In that she was run along the lines of naval discipline was due to the fact that the vessel could sail alone without any convoy ship, since its rich load was a good bounty for all the enemy vessels and pirate ships. The Falmouth could easily combat a war-ship of the same tonnage, thanks to its crew of 180 experienced men including the best trained gunners. The superiority of the crew was partly due to the incentive granted to each gunman allowing each individual to transport his own 5 tonnage of goods there and 2 tonnage back. These goods were usually sold as smuggled goods to the black market. The Falmouth was of 499 tons and was in service until 1764 completing five voyages for the East India Company under the Captain George Hepburn. She was lost on her sixth voyage, wrecked at Sogar Bank in 1766. Plans
  14. Privateer Ships by Fredrik Henrik af Chapman Index 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13.
  15. Armament possible 18-20 guns.
  16. 'Charles Grant' Many of the East Indiaman that traded between London and the East were built in Indian dockyards. The 'Charles Grant', for example, was built at Bombay in 1810. Ships built in India were constructed using superior tropical hard-woods such as teak. They were more resistant than vessels built from English oak to the sea-worms which ate through the bottoms of many ships. Wherever they were built, each East Indiaman had a limited life expectancy - 4 voyages to Asia over 8 to 10 years. Between 1600 and 1833 the East India Company's ships made about 4600 voyages from London.
  17. Prins Willem The Prins Willem (or Prins Willim) was the largest ship at the time of the Dutch East India Company. The ship Prins Willim was built in 1649 in Middelburg in the Netherlands and sank near Madagaskar in 1662. Curiously, the name on the ship was Prins Willim. Two possible reasons have been advanced: the ship's name is Middle Dutch lack of space for the name caused the "e" to be changed to a shorter "i" The ship was the flagship of Witte de With in the Battle of the Kentish Knock during the First Anglo-Dutch War. Plans: Build Thread: http://www.modelbrouwers.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23313
  18. Ahoy captains an shipwrights, I am looking for a vessel of the size of either our current trader snow or trader cutter. It should represent either of those in size and rigging. And it has to be a trade vessel. Build for cargo space. I am looking for a ship to model. Which means I need good plans and if possible also good reference data. Ship models or drawings work good to have a look at details or deck stuff. I know chapman has a lot of vessels but tbh. I am not sold on his smaller trade vessels. proof me otherwise if you like to
  19. The ship was built in 1760 like a 58 guns ship of line,equipped with 24 x 24lbs, 26 x 18lbs and 8 x 8lbs. The ship was reduced to a merchant vessel, the lower gun deck was removed to get more space to cargo, in the end, the "new" vessel only kept the stern ports, and was equipped 34 gun ports, with 26 x ¿18lbs? in the upper gun deck ( I don´t know yet if the vessel kept the original weapons) and 8 x 8lbs in the quarterdeck/ forecastle link to the drawing: https://pinake.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/017b_-plano-sistema-a-la-inglesa.jpg Some photos of the wooden model in the Naval museum of Madrid https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/modelo-de-nav%C3%ADo-la-flora-de-58-ca%C3%B1ones-rebajado-para-transporte-depertrecho-c-1760/JAHTv83ax8oIeg?hl=en
  20. A shame that there aren't many ships to mention in those centuries from the german states, but at least the Wapen von Hamburg was a nice ship. I'd dream to see her in the game - one will suffice there don't have to be all four variants The first three were convoi ships and the fourth a frigate. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_von_Hamburg_(1669) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_von_Hamburg_(1686) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_von_Hamburg_(1722) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wapen_von_Hamburg_(1740)
  21. In my opinion larger merchant ships should be brought in the game sooner rather than later, ie; within the next several patches. I think it is more important to have more merchant ships than adding another SOL (sorry Bucentaure fans!)at the moment. I am thinking a ship like an East Indiaman with significant armament so it can carry a lot of cargo but is a challenge to capture in a smaller ship. In the player choice poll such a ship was voted in (VOC schip Amsterdam) see this thread: http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/3922-voc-ship-amsterdam-a-call-for-help/?hl=amsterdam I think variety in the merchant fleet is important as we begin testing crafting and trading increases.
  22. Scroll down for English translation ... Die Neue Deutsche Hanse Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/NewHansa Über uns Fast 100 Jahre nachdem der letzte Hansetag abgehalten wurde, gibt es eine neue Initiative, die von deutschen Kaufleuten ins Leben gerufen wurde, um neuen Reichtum und Wohlstand zu schaffen. Angelockt von den Schätzen der neuen Welt und inspiriert durch den Reichtum der spanischen und niederländischen Händler, taten sich die einflussreichsten Kaufleute der norddeutschen Kurfürstentümer und Herzogtümer zusammen, um die „Neue Deutsche Hanse“ zu gründen. Ausgestattet mit dem Monopol zum Handel in der neuen Welt, der jeweiligen Landesherrn und mit der Unterstützung der großen deutschen Handelsstädten und fähiger Kapitäne, soll die Neue Hanse den Reichtum und die Schätze Amerikas in die Heimat befördern. Beispielhaft hierfür sind die britischen und niederländischen Handelskompanien. Die Hanse wird geführt durch den Vorstand, der auf den alle paar Jahre stattfindenden Hansetagen von Vertretern der Städte gewählt wird. Der Vorstand ist für die Einhaltung und Überwachung des Kodex, für die Anwerbung von Kapitänen, für den Einsatz der bewaffneten Schiffe, sowie für die Gewinnbeteiligung und Verlustzuweisung beteiligter Kaufleute zuständig. Mit einem einheitlichen Leitkodex soll Rechtssicherheit geschaffen und Konkurrenz innerhalb der Hanse vermieden werden. Zwar dürfen die Kapitäne und Kaufleute in eigener Zuständigkeit handeln, jedoch sind sie dazu aufgerufen sich an Vorschriften und Embargos des Vorstands zu halten. Fahrgemeinschaften werden gebildet um die gefährliche Reise über den Atlantik und auf den wichtigsten karibischen Routen sicherer zu gestalten. Kriegsschiffe und bewaffnete Schiffe werden von den Fürsten und Städten bereitgestellt um sich gegen Piraterie und jeden anderen wehren zu können der versucht Schiffe der Hanse zu entern oder Kontore und verbündete Handelshäfen zu überfallen und zu plündern. Es ist nicht das Ziel eigene Kolonien in der neuen Welt zu gründen (zumindest noch nicht) sondern gute Handelsbeziehungen vor Ort herzustellen und diese zu sichern. Eine Beteiligung an örtlichen Konflikten ist nicht erwünscht, kann aber vonnöten sein, sollten sich Auseinandersetzungen zum Nachteil für die Hanse entwickeln. "Großer Reichtum lockt Neider an, das war den Kaufleuten der Neuen Deutschen Hanse von Anfang an klar und so lief nie ein Konvoi ohne wenigstens ein bewaffnetes Begleitschiff aus. Zunächst brachten die Händler den Unterhalt dieser Schiffe noch vollständig aus eigener Tasche auf, dann erkannten die freien Reichsstädte Hamburg und Bremen die Wichtigkeit der neuen Handelsgesellschaft. Die beiden Hafenstädte bezalten bald einen großen Teil der hanseatischen Kriegschiffe aus ihren Stadtkassen. Lübeck, das Zentrum der ehemaligen Hanse der letzten Jahrhunderte konnte auf Grund der relativen Abgelegenheit in der Ostsee, zunächst weniger Profit aus den Geschäften mit der Neuen Welt ziehen. Inzwischen begreifen aber auch die Landesherren norddeutscher Kurfürsten zu Hannover und Brandenburg (Preußen) wie ertragreich die Geschäfte der Hanse in der Neuen Welt sind und stellen eigene Flotten zum Schutze der Handelsschiffe ab. Die drei bedeutesten Flotten der Hanse agieren heute von Bremen, Hamburg und Emden aus. Während die Flotte zu Bremen zu großem Teil vom Kurfürstentum Hannover getragen wird, finanziert sich die Hamburger Flotte aus Geldern der Herzogtümer Holstein und Mecklenburg, sowie einiger Mitteldeutscher Reiche wie dem Kurfürstentum Sachsen. Die Emdener Flotte besteht seit dem Kauf Ostfrieslands durch Brandenburg (Preußen) und ist fast Deckungsgleich mit der Kurbrandenburgischen Marine. Jede Flotte trägt neben dem Hanseatenwimpel (weiß-rot), die Flagge der jeweiligen Hafenstadt im Mast. " New Hanseatic League Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/NewHansa About us Almost 100 years after the last Hansetag (engl: Hansa Convention) was held, German merchants started a new initiative to grow their prosperity. Attracted by the treasures of the New World that already granted great richness to Spanish and Dutch merchants, a number of influential traders from the principalities and duchies of northern Germany, merged to found the "New Hanseatic League". The aim is to secure a share of the American gold and treasuries for themselves and of course the German sovereigns, who granted the Hansa with the exclusive right to trade in their names. This kind of monopoly in the new world is not unlike the british or dutch trading companies. The Hansa is lead by a board of directors, elected by the cities every few years at the Hansetag. The board watches over the company's code and laws and is responsible for the employment of new Captains, the mission planning of the Hansa's warships and the employee profit sharing and loss allocation. The company's laws and policies are to guarantee legal security and avoid business competition between Hansa's traders. Traders may act at their own jurisdiction, but should follow the boards commandments, rules and embargoes. Convoys are established not only on the transatlantic crossing, but also to secure main trading routes within the dangerous caribbean waters. Armed ships are provided by the German sovereigns and cities to protect against piracy and anyone trying to board Hansa ships or raid trading stations and allied ports. The foundation of own colonies is not in the Hansa's interest (yet). All efforts are to establish and keep good trade relations in the Caribbean and between the New World and the German coastal cities. Participation in local or global conflicts is not desirable, yet may be necessary in case it develops to the Hansa's disadvantage. Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/NewHansa
  23. La Belle (1680) Small french ship (barque longue, 6 guns). Part of the disastrous expedition of René-Robert Cavelier de la Salle sent from France in 1684 to explore the mouth of Mississipi. Wrecked during a storm on the Texas banks. (copyright) Tonnage : 40-45 Length : 54 ft 4 in (16,56 m). Beam : 14 ft 9 in (4,50 m) Draft : 8 ft (2,4 m) Shallow draught and high maneuverability allow coastal navigation for explorers and privateers. Small crew. About late XVIIth-century to early XVIIIth-century french freebooters, Jean-Baptist Labat (1663-1738) wrote : To attack merchant ships, "they favoured small ships that were more manoeuvrable — mostly barques ; also corvettes and brigantines — with no more than 6 cannons (even when the ship could carry more) because they were convinced that four muskets could kill more enemies than one cannon". Plans : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/30-monographie-de-la-belle-barque-1680.html (monograph (20 drawings) and website with plans) Download (587.64k) http://www.editions-ancre.com/plans026.htm (excerpt) http://nautarch.tamu.edu/Theses/pdf-files/Grieco-MA2003.pdf (master's thesis with plans on Modeling La Belle, p. 56, 58, 153) http://www.academia.edu/9817712/The_Model_Reconstruction_of_La_Salles_Ship_La_Belle http://nauticalarch.org/documents/quarterly/V30%20No4.pdf (article with plans, p. 5-6, 13) Pictures : http://olivier.gatine.free.fr/modeles.html http://modelisme.arsenal.free.fr/artdumodelisme/La%20Belle/indexgb.html http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report1/belleinprogress.htm http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report1/amcomplete.htm http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report1/rockport.htm http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/barque/barq-index.htm Multimedia http://www.musee-marine.fr/programmes_multimedia/construction_navale/ (click on "Construction virtuelle de La Belle) (3d shipmodel tutorial video clip, 10 min., B. Huc) Modeling La Belle, a 17th Century Gun and Carriage http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report4/ Archaeology of La Belle Shipwreck http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/belle/laboratory.html#reconstructing http://www.thc.state.tx.us/preserve/archeology/la-salle-archeology-projects http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lasalle/ http://nautarch.tamu.edu/CRL/Report7/hull.htm http://nautarch.tamu.edu/pdf-files/West-MA2005.pdf Toni L. Carrell PhD Thesis - University of St Andrews Guéroult du Pas, "Barque longue for exploration, escort and trade during wars", 1710 (gallica.bnf.fr) About La Belle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Belle_(ship) http://www.texashighways.com/history/item/7670-landing-of-la-belle-exhibit-la-salle Theodore Gudin, La Salle's Expedition to Louisiana in 1684 (1844)
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