Koltes

Admin, pvp1 is unplayable for people from Australia and New Zealand unless pvp1 will be located at west coast of US. The game will render unplayable and lots of people I know have already stated they wont be able to play. I'm on fiber optic in New Zealand and still get 220 ping at best. If you going to have numbers is there anyway you will be running australasian server? North of Australia is one of the best centralized locations.

This ^ Though switching crew for 1 minute from their immediate tasks (sails, cannons) is very harsh. You are replacing one punishment with another. Now your ship wont be crippled by lack of crew that has been graped, but it will be crippled by a very long cooldown. A whole minute is a lot of time to disable the ship in a middle of the fight. If you have to do it every time you are graped, then you are out of combat for good anyway. If you gonna do it only once, then it isn't really giving you any defensive tools against graping. If you want to add cooldown, then why not add natural cooldown of the crew transfers that we already have in place. This will be logical, manageable by players and add more functionality to the combat. Brace shouldn't be instant. Instead of cooldown function - crew would leave the deck in the same manner as crew transfer between jobs (sails, gunnery, repairs). Hiding should go with the same rate as crew transfer for other jobs. Meaning if you pushed B right before you've been graped there probably will be no protection as crew simply didnt have enough time to leave the deck. Pressing Brace 10-15 second prior taking shots would definitely help much more because good portion of the crew had time to hide. The damage to crew will be reduced to percentage of the crew that has been transferred to Bracing. As per image below total crew count is 135. Captain has activated B (Brace) function and 60 crew members were transferred to bracing at the time when they were shot (55% of the total crew). Thus reduced damage done to the crew by 55%. Like with Boarding there should never be a total crew transfer to Brace by default as someone still needs to be remain on sails, helm, gunnery, survival for the ship to operate. However in extreme situations when crew has already been crippled severely captains should be able to switch off everything but Bracing thus transferring the entire remaining crew to defensive. "Charismatic Boatswain" will be the upgrade to make Bracing faster. Nothing needs to be changed here. Changes required - minimal. Fighting content added - invaluable.

Why not? Most of crew injuries were not fatal and after surgeon treatment some number of crew would get back to fight. Seems to be very logical and realistic. Also it seems very realistic that crew would get ready for graping and with the right leadership take defensive position to minimize loses. Thus new officer officer perk could be introduced as well as Brace command (like pressing R not just switches side off, but makes crew to brace). Charismatic boatswain upgrade would get even more value because it will allow crew to hide faster. We are not proposing to change any grape mechanics such as damage dealing, penetration etc. But rather give the defender more tools to defend

Someone has to... well I dont think we have killed everyone in GB lol

Yeah I get what you mean by weatherdeck being exposed. However graping seems to do just as much damage to crew now in multi decked ships too. Having said that my complaint is not about how easy it is to grape certain ships, but rather that there is no tools to tackle the problem. Giving us the tools below (as per OP) will pretty much balance the whole thing without affecting armor / crew protection mechanics.

Sorry man, i've read it 5 times and still struggle to make any sense. Specifically: What do you mean heavy rattle has armed weatherdeck? How does this affect current game mechanics that if your armor is full you still lose crew at a very high rate? Loosing crew cannot be recovered during the battle while sails and armor can be. Yet its easier to deal damage to the crew. Also, this is just a recent example. I had same problems in all sort of ships including 1st rates (even more so) Yes this is what I had to do in order to win this. Better captain won, grape doesn't mean... blah blah blah However you missing my point mate. The graping mechanics are just so OP that it requires a huge amount of game knowledge and skill to overcome. Not everyone is the same or at that level. The only answer to that for lots of players will be to grape in return because if you want to win you should use everything to your advantage. If Graping OP this is what you should do in order to score a win. My point is that because graping has been now abused quite a lot it kills naval combat. Combat becomes very dull, boring and tiresome. Whoever grapes down first. No matter sides, no matter sailing skills etc

Simplicity is hardly subjective mate. I don't think I could have been more precise with comparisons of both damage dealing mechanics without being too complicated. As per image below. The guy who graped the heavy rattler was using minimal skill (even if he had any he didn't show). All he wanted to do is point his ship at me, approach to get on either side and grape. Every time you trying to out maneuver you get graped. So yeah this battle was won because of better skill of the heavy rattler captain, but it was done with such absurd difficulty that it only proves the point how OP graping is. There is just no protection from it. Re: killing crew on top decks Well there are plenty of ships that only have top decks. Also most of the other multi decked ships can still be graped to a stage when its just impossible to manage the ship anymore. FYI, the heavy rattler started with full crew + gold hammocks Absolutely and there is really no protection from it, neither there any recovery option.

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Would also be nice to be able to change the name of the ship that is displayed for real on the stern and other people can see it in battle and OW. Even if its a permanent upgrade slot that you have to buy for real money for each ship (Devs, hint-hint ) Also would be awesome to have statistics on each ship. Battles its done, damage, hitting info, wins/looses etc. You look at the ship and you know how you actually doing in it. Also we badly need battle replay function that you could review later and switch between ships. This would allow not only good analyses of fights but also good video making, boosting this game popularity a million times more with the gaming community. People would WANT to come and try it.

Jean, Filled with rage?? Is this another internet forum diagnosis? I assure you I'm totally calm, but I'll tell you what I'm filled with. I'm fed up with lies and/or comments from people that have an opinion without having any knowledge of facts. That's all. Also I have no "implication that pirates SHOULD be able to own the whole map" or any other nations in that matter. But we DO own half of the map. Map we DONT need. Own for a reason to smack heads of those who crossed us in a very bad way. There are game mechanics. We use them. I'm sure they will be changed. Whatever comes we will use as well. Don't be fooled about the port wipe. It's the people that matters In regards this thread getting off the rail, probably is, though I would like to think that I still pretty much remain on the subject. Though you right. Nothing else to discuss here, so please stop all whining about pirates doing this and that. Lets spend more time IN the game. Cheers It wasn't just because of one port taken by CKA from BLACK. It was a broken agreement. Loco has approached Cordova and asked why did he do this? Cordova replied only that he did what he believed was good for his nation. Loco said, but that means you are now going against us. Does this mean war? Cordova never responded. Loco said, if this means war your clan and nation will pay, are you sure you want this? Again Cordova haven't responded. But BLACK still haven't actually done anything (still stumbled with this stupid move from our GB ally) until couple of days later the global chat blew up with US and GB players start accusing pirates of breaking the deal with GB. Pirates breaking the deal? Pirates who has never broke any agreements before? F...ck ooooooffff! This is how and why it has started. On the grounds of false accusations for the deeds of the very people who actually accused us. You are the person who creates false facts in his heads and creates an imaginary world based on those facts. You are the person who simply ignores the true facts that are given to him by multiple people. You are the person who knows nothing about the situation, but got strong opinion on it that you defend with some bullshit arguments. Don't bother replying. I'm done talking to you.

True that, however this does not change the fact that graping is hugely OP and its now much abused. We need tools to protect, manage and restore the crew. As well as a Surgeon perk like Expect Carpenter. Just trying to help to make this great game even greater instead of yelling "nerf this nation, nerf that nation" Thank you!

Current graping mechanics is unreasonable. Simple numbers: When you shoot enemy ship with balls and reduce their armor trying to sink them, you must reduce armor to zero on at least one side. This means you got to maneuver to a right position to the enemy ship to shoot the weak side. So the Armor "hp pool" is divided to 2 parts - the sides of the ship. If you are good with sails you will manage to hide your weak side long enough to stay above the water. When you graping the crew there is only ONE "hp pool" no matter which side you are are shooting. You cant hide it. You just have to stay away from the graper. Here is more. The crew entire "hp pool" is weaker then one side of the armor "hp pool" (½ of armor total HP). Two ships going side by side one is graping and the other is shooting balls, the graped ship will lose everytime due to having crew killed faster than killing half of the armor on one side of the enemy. Another simple comparison: When you got your armor reduced you can pop repair and get it restored. You cant do so with crew. The crew "hp pool" is unrecoverable! Why would someone want to shoot the ship trying to maneuver to shoot only one side, basically killing it twice after the repair is popped, when you could simply stick with the enemy ship on any side, grape his crew until its not manageable and he cant ever recover from that. The is no "crew repair" button... This creates a very easy tactic that requires minimal skill and is lately been abused quite a lot. It really kills the game for those who mastered manual sailing, those who can read the wind properly, those who can out think the enemy 2-3 moves ahead, who mastered ship positioning, giving leaks ... all those wonderful battle mechanics that makes this naval game a real action. Now all these skills are worthless because of the current graping mechanics. Suggestion: 1. Graping ships with armor has little effect like it was. Before you can grape the crew the armor needs to be reduced to 1/3 at least. 2. Pushing R to switch off the side cannons makes crew to stop working on that side of the ship. It should also make them leave that side for real and if that side get graped the crew loses are minimal while that side is switched off. Doesnt have to happen instantly. It takes time for crew to relocate/hide. But more crew leaving the side less you should lose. 3. Any ship (since we keeping this as historical as possible without calling this a simulator) every battle ship should have a doctor. Make a Crew Recover ala repair function that uses your consumable Medkits. All this will make graping harder and will require actual skill to reduce armor, macro manage the crew by assigning them, poping crew recovery on time etc. Thank you in advance [bLACK] Koltes pvp2

Explanation requested... Explanation given... About GB getting less numbers nowadays - yes. But they are not leaving the server as you are fast to accuse us again. They simply go to other nations (including pirates- no more no less). They are simply fed up with CKA accusations on nation chat and BS defensive response lines that you can track by dates: - 3 weeks ago: "We have done nothing wrong! We backstabbed no one! Britain you must unite vs pirate scum! They just looking for excuses to attack us" - 2 weeks ago: Then the truth start coming out and there were not just pirates talking about it. Brits on nation chat too, so CKA has changed the tone, but still in denial of their doing. "This is all bullshit pirate propaganda! Don't fall for it! Nation don't you worry! We are loosing battles, but winning the war! We must unite and defend our nation" (Well you can lose one battle and win the war, but you cant lose fkn 100 of them and still hope to win. Who were you fooling? Your newbs?..) - 1 week ago: When even former CKA members admitted that it wasn't even Cordova's fault alone. It was the entire clans vote to turn on pirates "Nation be strong! We are loosing, but still have quite a few ports! The almighty port wipe is coming! Be strong Britain! Soon! Very soon we will get our ports back and the pirate scum get nerfed! Well deserved!!!" Present time: The truth has come out. The war is lost. Britain is down to one port. But the nation chat changed a little: "UK, TWP, TEA clans this is all your fault! You kept nation separated! You all pirates alts! No one is holding you here! Go switch to your friends pirates! The port wipe is coming!!! Stay strong Britain!" WTF? Are you all member of the same mental hospital and were given access to computers for behaving well last week?! Sorry it certainly feels like it. You keep telling how we pirates destroy the server.. I ask you how? Affecting the newbs so they leave the server? By doing what? Blockading? Seal clubbing? This is pvp server and they knew that they WILL be ganged here so don't patronage grownups. I tell you what they DIDN'T expect. They didnt expect pirates paying them out and helping them. Yes those very pirates that seal clubbed them. They didnt expect to speak up their mind and all of a sudden accused of being a spy. They didnt expect nation chat full of bullshit, swearing and whining. Instead of taking the responsibility you all CKA members let this matter to escalate and affect EVERYONE in Great Britain nation. Remember your clan has voted for this, voted to turn on pirates, but repeatedly you keep saying that you have done nothing wrong. You cant fuck with people, spit into their faces and walk away from it like nothing happened. If you didnt like the deal with pirates, all it takes is to show up on TS or say in global: "Pirates that's it. We had a deal going, but we want to break it and walk our own way from now on". Fine. Whatever. But the way you have done it was very low. They way you keep defending your "pride" is even worse. And now you are accusing the clans like UK that actually DONE something for the new players in GB. They went to us and said, look we appreciate your war with CKA, but those newbs have nothing to do with it. CKA wont admit anything, bashing newbs not gonna help. Please let them be, Let them learn the game, let them pass. And we said.. ok fair enough. But God, seeing this is too much for CKA is it? Jean, Make no mistake. Our war (as stated numerous times before and which you all successfully managing to ignore) is against CKA not GB. You don't see other GB clans bitching about this apart from CKA and their supporters. Why? Maybe because they are on good terms with pirates? Like TWP, TEA and UK clans? Those clans that went off to pirates and made a deal. Those are clans that work with newbs and are helping them with the game. We are not touching them. But keeping up with the facts is a hard work. How did CKA helped the newbs apart from trolling the nation chat? If people leaving GB then it is CKA fault for not being a good leaders of the nation. If people are leaving the server because of this war its a fault of people who started it and people who got no will to end it. In all counts CKA's fault. Cordova and CKA had a chance to end this war long time ago. They were given all the oportunity to negotiate their way out of this. If they cared so much about the server population they would have dealt with the problem on first opportunity. Instead they chosen not to despite multiple attempts from pirates. Now we have ended the war. On our terms. CKA members will be hunted and sunk on sight until they rage-quit or switch clan/nation. Newbs are welcome to join non-CKA supporters and live heir lives. Only CKA keep bitching about it, but you know what? Their wailing gets quieter and quieter If you want to play genuine map or a close representation of it there is PVE server for that. You will be happy every time you press M Edit: Removed response to hidden post. - Moderator Team

No for merge with pvp1. Yes for AUSTRALASIA based pvp2 The ping for us here in Aussie/NZ is just sucks. Even on pvp2 we get 200-300 ms. I tried pvp1 and it was not playable for Aussie/NZ players. They should have pvp1 more US centralized/eastern so most people in US getting an averagely same ping They should have Oceania based pvp2 server so asia, assie, nz while us west coast gets decent ping too.

I agree with the wind change, but before diving in with all the complications and realism why not keep it simple and get feedback first. Simplified OW wind mechanics. Realistically would never blow from one direction dead on. The direction would be general. So every 15-20 minutes or so wind changes general direction. Keep it totally random and global to start with . Once general direction has changed by RNG the wind will randomly move within the 25 degree arc of that general direction left or right randomly, but in overall blows the same way. This brings more wind awareness when chasing/running. Also as it was your fortune might have changed when suddenly wind changed the direction. Simplified battle wind mechanics. Similar to OW, but wind changes general direction twice as fast that in OW (every 10 minutes) and fluctuation arc is half the size than in the OW (15 degree arc). This brings quite a strong aspect of wind awareness in the actual battle. The point is that the wind was the main driving force and wind changes could suddenly turn circumstances to your favor or vise versa. Amount of coding or changes to be done - minimal. Goal achieved

Loco, were did you get this guy??? He is a brilliant solution to Koiz bullshit. Two of them in a room we get one Carl Barron Dear Hodo-Frodo, Well done! Congratulations of discovering a phenomenon called a bullshit inertia! It occurs when you have reached a certain point of no return and just cant stop and must bullshit at any cost. So much so that bullshitting becomes a goal! Please provide your physical address where your personalized BullShit Medal will be sent to. Yours sincerely, 68 Pounder

Here Hodo, everything needs to be spelled out to you hahaha Good on you Chailang

No mate, this IS the last min screenshot. We had the BR and screen shows that because you can calculate the BR of the ships that were not sunk. You also had 2 towers left not one which is also on the screen. Let me fix this for you We run out of time and you won because of that. Saying that you were winning the battle is a delusional BS. You were 100% beyond any doubt loosing this battle, but you did well holding and surviving until the time run out which gave you the victory. We run out of time because we were outnumbered and were busy chasing your lot around the towers. Have we had 2-3 more players we wouldn't have had this conversation at all. As I said, despite any BS talks, I would like to point out that some brits are putting themselves above "hate pirate scum trolling" that you have had going in the last month. Win or lose they end the battle with thanks and congratulations on either victory or putting up a good fight. Those brits have our ultimate respect and gratitude for a good sporty pvp. Its up to each individual how he wants to be known in the community and whether you like it or not... we are ONE community. [bLACK] Koltes

You are day dreaming lad Here show me how were you winning this battle? http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/260470155556416301/5F1F177419A7E4141340BFE069BC5A1BAA765B5A/ You were not winning, you were losing, but you won because you lasted till the end of the battle. Outnumbered, we already had the BR, but made a mistake of loosing the Mortar and run out of time killing towers. If your idea of winning is simply trying to tread water, then there is something seriously wrong with your naval doctrine hence why you need to rewrite it. Its costing you battles. You have outnumbered us, but still were wiggling amongs the towers trying to wear us down. Smart tactic if you are outnumbered, but when you have numbers instead - it smells. But hey at the end of the day your best and dont smack talk and we pvp2 world will be a happier place to live [bLACK] Koltes

Your questions already been answered in full. By Loco and myself. Maybe you need to look into getting that "reading comprehension" perk yourself? If that's not enough, I can craft you regular gold "Insight" upgrade and even permanent "perceptivity" upgrade. Just hit me up

I demand 1 chaser cannon on my reno and fk the area control

Its called Area Control. Key word AREA!!! No one is running haha

Felt cheated and lied to? Yeah - I bet you were all in tears in your voice channel when news of the epic betrayal reached you. What had Britain done!? ...Come on, Loco... Really, what did they do that was so terrible? I'm sorry dude, but you need to educate yourself of the real causes of this hostility and our demands and stop basing all your conclusions on assumption. There is plenty of info further up. Also here http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/16387-gotta-love-politics-and-drama-pvp2-server-story-of-a-player-and-a-big-bus/ and when members of BLACK are camping KPR, attacking people who have literally no chance of winning, and taking ports day after day completely unopposed - you get to own that too. That's what I meant about "clubbing seals". You know as well as I do that BLACK members do it on the regular. (And do it well I might add!) Your whole complaining point is about pirates seal club newbs. Correct? Everyone is ok with us clubbing CKA as they are the veterans and this is a pvp server, tough cookies? Yes? Well go and speak to the newbs that have been clubbed by us. Ask them how they feel about it. Ask them in nation chat so others can join too. Hear them out then make conclusions. As far as I know GB newbs are pretty well aware of the cause of all this. They also don't really give a damn. They are learning to live with the blockade and learning to hate people that caused this. Cordova and CKA followers are trying to use the "Newb Button" to trigger the "Hate Nasty Pirates Emotion". then schedule a time/port to fight it out several nights a week? You'll be getting all the pvp(!) Regarding us looking for pvp. Yes it is true, thats what pirates do. This is the main reason for most of our decisions. However this time around we are making statement that is above the desire to simply pvp all day. First things first. We got another 40 ports to take from Brits. As of setting up a pvp fight, they just need to show up to any PB. We don't play Fake Flag Game no more. If the flag is pulled, its going to be addressed. You know where to find us. And actually doing what a clan boss should be doing. Recruiting, teaching, mentoring, and then leading into battle the players that would be coming to play Naval Action if we could stop this pettiness and drama in game. Is 7grams willing to do that? BLACK Clan has been already doing this all along. This is just your another uneducated assumption. We are all trained and looked after. 7Grams made me ships, gave me starting cash, gave me upgrades etc etc. Same as other clan higher rank officers. They been dueling me and teaching me how to sail properly. And now I'm doing my best to repay this back. BLACK was the most humble, the most friendly clan I have ever seen in this game. This is why BLACK clan is the strongest on server. We are loyal to each other. We support each other. We do things together. So your imaginary "clan bosses should be doing what they should be doing" makes zero value as this is already in place in BLACK long before your hypothesis. I think I know the answer he'd give, No, you dont... obviously This is funny how you people whinging about the blockade and trying to push pirates to stop it. Wailing that pirates should forget the betrayal, should forget being sold and portrayed as ultimate scum who isn't capable keeping their word, should become above someones wrong doing, should do this - should do that... And no one of you... none, are saying to Cordova, well man, why don't you man up. This is your clan's wrong doing especially if you all voted for this. You have caused this, get this sorted and this will stop everything, all hostility. None. Nada Get your act together and address the causer of the problem. But we know this will never happen because Cordova is a coward not capable to put his nation's needs in front of his ego. You know that too. You know that so well that you understand that trying to convince CKA to comeout is a dead end. Impossible. Doesn't exist. So you all trying to address the other side - pirates. Bad news for you I guess

hahaha +10