Koltes

October 30, 2020

I could not find a basic manual tutorial that would cover all aspects in one place. So decided to make In-Depth Basic Manual Sailing Tutorial to help our new players. Enjoy

August 30, 2020

12 hours ago, Christendom said:

so essentially we're looking at community managers, which I think has been suggested here for years. I'm not sure about moving over to discord, but having a group of mods vote on decisions would be a smart move. You could even bring back global and have them monitor chats. Maybe throw them a bone or 2 in the form of a fancy ship for their efforts.

Couple of suggestions -

1 - active mods. Our last mods were not.
2 - multiples as biases will always be a thing
3 - mods vote on action taken and submit higher up if discipline beyondt their scope is needed
4 - we need a set of rules that is not subject to change or interpetation based upon feelings for the individuals.

I always said that each nation should have their own Mods to keep their own national chats at check. Then mods from RE for example cant be blamed for silencing players from other nations by over using their power. With removal of global this is an automatic thing.
3 mods for each nation and its sorted, plus what you have said up there

August 30, 2020

48 minutes ago, Macjimm said:

Wow. This is bazarre.

I've never had to use discord for any game to receive support.

I don't know what a national cluster, or an alliance leader is. I wouldn't know how to find out. Will Game Labs provide a list of national clusters and alliance leaders so that players know how to obtain support, or are player's expected to guess?

Doesn't much matter as I've always used the "Ignore" feature to adress offensive players. But if GL wants players to report all incidents of toxic behavior, the process should be clear and easy to understand. Perhaps it would be easier to elimate ALL in game communication and only allow a select few to post on the forums. Let players use third party apps to insult each other, and GL wouldn't have to be involved at all.

Crazy times.

Well actually lots of newer game companies do have their own discord with support channel. But I havent heard of the large companies that do that

August 30, 2020

9 hours ago, admin said:

Captains

The following sections are now locked as all discussions on the features from those sections will happen in either developer announcements of those features or in patchnotes discussions after deployment.

Open world discussions

Combat mechanics

Economy trading and crafting

Suggestions will be accepted in suggestions sections.

Sections will be archived in the near future.

This change was needed for so long that its almost too late to have now.
It would work for a title that has strong direction and is being developed in that direction. Direction of NA have never been hard set. For the best or for the worse, in a way its been a community project, not the developer's.

During the development of the NA its direction have been taking very sharp turns (even after the release). Does this mean that now you will be making decisions not based on community opinion? But only ask community opinion to help to improve the results of your decisions/implementation? I dont mean this as negative at all. In fact I think thats how it was supposed to be done from the start. I'm just trying to understand if we are on that road now?

August 30, 2020

9 hours ago, admin said:

We are considering moving the support section to discord as it is more immediate and faster.
Tribunals should be in national clusters and managed by accepted and voted alliance leaders in the nation who will convey decisions to developers in special sections in discord.
Thoughts?

This will not work for a number of reason:
1. Alliance leaders are always going to be prejudged representatives trying to "protect" members of their alliance or clan;
2. Cases of unity in the nation is far and few between. You will simply give power to troll with immunity to members of larger groups that will lead to #1 point
3. Voting also will not work as largest groups of people/nation/clans will be able to "defend" their cases or attack with never ending tribunals those whos numbers are low. But that does not mean that the large group cant be wrong or prejuded

Unfortunately I dont have an answer as to how make it work for you in the current game state. The game that implies so many rules is doomed for players to exploit them with enthusiasm. The ONLY true way to reduce or eliminate tribunals and take that load off Developers hands is by changing the entire game mechanics responsible for how players interact in the game world.

For example... Green-on-Green exploit is not possible when all battles are Free-for-All and everyone is sailing under his own flag in the battle. Therefore FFA will eliminate GnG tribunals like a surgery.
This is just an example. I have proposed for 1 week FFA attached to a special occasion. Maybe to celebrate your (admin) birthday
It can be just fun event with locked RVR for a week. See how it works for the OW which in fact could do with a bit of reviving right now. Just sayin

August 3, 2020

I believe this is not working as its intended because you cant tell me I can NOT redeem the redeemable ship if I have crafted one in the port. I mean most of us have crafted Trincs because they are good OW hunters. This means that none of us will be able to redeem the DLC Trinc??? Redeemable Trinc should be treated separately from crafted ones. Just like the Vic.
I really hope this is just a code shortcoming thats going to be fixed. Else this redeemable "reward" is just as useless as tits on a bull.

August 2, 2020

Being a hunter and a sport shooter who reloads and develops my own ammo loads, a lot of gun pen comments missing two important factors when address penetration.

There are too main factors. Kinetic energy of the projectile and the area size of the impact. Im not even touching the ballistic coefficient. We are talking about when your projectile have made it to the target.

On normal conditions (no angles or stable target) its the kinetic energy mass by area.

Kinetic energy calculated from speed and the weight of the projectile. Area of application (in our case) is the size of the cannon ball.

Thus, where 42pd cannon ball would bounce without a dent a small musket bullet would penetrate some portion of armor and stuck in it.

So on top of the initial penetration there is also a factor that tells how a specific projectiles saves the energy. Small projectile might have higher initial pen due to high speed and small size of the projectile, but soon as it makes impact it looses all its energy and stops getting stuck in the armor. Large cannon ball if pen will carry the energy further through the armor due to its weight

July 29, 2020

7 hours ago, RedOne said:

Получается ПБ превращается в Битву 1 клана против другой нации?

Нет, но это уравнивает возможности малых наций с большими. А там уже, как нация разрулит. Сможет весь клан набрать 25 человек на ПБ, хорошо. Нет, будут собирать с других кланов. "Не делайте проблемы там, где ее нет" (Садам Хусейн) 😉

7 hours ago, RedOne said:

И опять получается что у клана зергов больше шансов на победу из за того, что количество игроков будет 25...

Если нация не набирает 25 человек на ПБ, то эта нация по умолчаню не нация, а пристанище одиночек или малых групп. Куда им в захват территорий играть?

July 29, 2020

1 hour ago, RedOne said:

Допустим, будет телепорт... Например... что мешает заскочить твинком на ПБ ( даже на рейте) и тупо слиться? А если твинк будет не один и не у одного человека? Попахивает подставными боями...

Мешает тот факт, что телепортом "владеет" тот клан, который поставил флаг.
А что мешает сегодня?

July 28, 2020

47 minutes ago, admin said:

Range control.
Every gun will have a role (even 4lb). All guns should be able to penetrate a fully upgraded ship hull and masts at 100m as they could historically. Including smallest calibers.

Heaviest guns penetration ranges will strongly improve.

Every gun will have defined effective range both for masts and for hull

Thickness - Masts vs Hull
Thickness difference for masts and hulls will be reduced for ships, with effective distance of operation in mind.

Thickness difference between some classes will be reduced or removed

Thickness for masts will be rebalanced for range - but ALL upgraded masts will be somewhat vulnerable at close range

Upgrades for hull and masts will not give invulnerability but instead will reduce or increase effective safe range.

Accuracy
Accuracy will be finally rebalanced (including for tracking shot)

Accuracy will grow with caliber as defined by the Treatise on Gunnery and other historical sources on Ordnance.

Overall the changes will do the following

Bring range back into play

Define effective ranges better

Reduce thickness inflation and make it work gameplay wise

Make more guns usable (including small calibers)

Provide clarity on masts and thickness penetration in terms of range.

This is all sounds great, but people will hold their breath as this update will have huge effect on gameplay.

"all guns will have a role"
what does it mean? Does it mean that swivels will be able to do extra crew damage to lower ships when shooting from the top?
will we able to have different controls for the guns?

Thickness of Masts vs Hull.
I think rebalance wise we should be comparing more Demasting tactics vs Leaks. Leaks are so nerfed that this tactic almost does not exist. Hopefully masts will get stronger and harder to drop.

Accuracy.
My vote is for reduced accuracy. So if you planning to increase accuracy with caliber then make best accuracy equal to what we have now and reduce with lower calibers.

Range shooting is great!
"Define effective range better" - does it mean more or better tools? Will we be able to finally use spyglass for range estimation?

"Make more guns usable (including small calibers)" - this one really makes me shiver. Can we please have more info on this?

Leaks are also part of gun update same as masts. Will those looked at as well? Currently leaks tactics dont exist therefore winning windward position is irrelevant in the fight

July 27, 2020

8 hours ago, Malcolm3 said:

Телепорт на самом деле не поможет, т.к. отцеп на данный момент это единственный способ помочь союзной нации при ПБ и единственный противовес сплаванным пачкам игроков на топовых кораблях. В итоге с одной стороны малая нация и сможет попадать на ПБ к большой, но большая тупо завалит малую (или большую, но слабую) без возможности что-то этому противопоставить - смотрим шведов с британцами сейчас и вспоминаем испанцев с британцами ранее (в общем те же игроки с обеих сторон). Нужна механика асимметричного ответа со стороны более слабой стороны в виде той же крейсерской войны, как в реальности делали, или еще какого.
Например, как моя концепция с возможностью вести экономическую войну за счет блокады и рейдерства, но увы... год с лишним уже прошел, а разработчики так на это и не отреагировали (хотя и прочитали).

Поможет.
Смотри, твоя логика получается односторонняя. Ты говоришь, что скрин помогает отцепить зерг нацию. Но тогда, принимая те же условия, тот же самый зерг имеет куда большие возможности остановить твой скрин. В теории все хорошо, но на практике, тех кого больше почти всегда доходят до ПБ. Но даже если отскринить, это далеко не гарантия, что ПБ не будет. И уж совсем тяжело пробиться к порту малой нации. Фактически не реально.
Давай возьмем порт который имеет значение. Атака на Новый Орлеан или Вера Круз. Сколько русских выйдут его защищать? ПБ флоту туда просто не реально добраться. А вот с новой механикой такая возможность существует.

Не важно, сколько у нации людей, когда в бой максимум заходят несколько человек. Не важно, сколько там сотен русских переживают под стенами Вера Круз и заламывают локти во время боя. ПБ 25 на 25 максимум. То что происходит в самом бою это справедливое равное противостояние. Если одна команда не привела достаточно людей или села на "недоделанные" корабли или привела неправильный сетап, то это уже их проблемы и часть причины их возможного проигрыша. Но никак не из-за того, что в одной нации больше народу.

Если нация не набирает 25 человека для ПБ, то это уже мертвая нация. Если нация не может скрафтить 25 1х рейтов нужного зафита и привести нормальный сетап, то это мертвая нация. Если в нации нет толкового командира, то такой нации нельзя воевать пока он не появится. Но, это все никак не связано с тем, что по другую сторону есть зерг.

На Global сервере, наш пиратский клан единственный во всей нации противостоял сразу US and GB, которые были в альянсе и на них приходилось 75% населения всего сервера. Только на нашем сервере скрин не был фишкой. Мы все просто воевали в ПБ. То есть когда наш клан смог заполнить 25 человек ПБ нас было уже не остановить. Есть скрины как мы довели до одного порта и US и GB. Зерг им не помог.

8 hours ago, TrollUnderTheBottom said:

Я процитировал разрабов В твоём ответе. Цитата не высветилась, процитировало лишь тебя.
Вот тебе и причина моей реакции, потому что это выглядело, что процитировал ты именно меня и смысл твой ответ приобрел совершенно противоположный. Извини за реакцию 🤷‍♂️

Обьясняю прямейшую логическую цепочку, как РВР прямо, хоть и не слишком значительно влияет на прямой бой. Бонусы города легче заработать зергом, и легче сам город держать зергом.
Извини, но это ерунда же. Баракоа, Нуевитас развиты по максимуму сколько времени? Как то, что год назад вы прокачали город на пару недель дольше, чем русские свой город, влияет каким-то образом на РВР сегодня? Чего там еще накачать можно?
Держать зергом легче да, конечно. Легче народ собрать. Отцепы опять же. Но смотри выше мой ответ Малкольму - телепорт это пофиксит

На что влияют бонусы только лишь? На бой. Смысл РВР привязали только к одному - к бонусам в бою. Больше нет ни единой причины иметь город из адекватных. Разве что потешить своё ЧСВ. Нууу может быть ещё прибыль с городов. Но большинство городов дают мизер. И опять же механик, которые простимулируют игрока расширять империю - внутриигровых нет. Факт? Факт. Господство даёт небольшое преимущество в бою и при этом господство достигнуто только за счёт зерга. В чем я не прав?
Ты сравниваешь апельсины и мандарины. При чем тут инстанс боя и РВР и причины им заниматься? Вообще разные вещи.
Если говорить про надобность владения города, то да это гемор. Лучше быть в друзьях у клана, пользоваться всем, что город предоставляет и не заморачиваться защитой, майнтенанс и т.д. Хотя погоди - если не заморачиваться с защитой и не помогать с этим, то так не долго и город потерять и бонусы к крафту... Получается заморачиваться все равно придется... Еще ты как-то уменьшил значение денежного прихода с налогов города. Нормально развитый город должен приносить достаточно реалов, чтобы обеспечить клану рейтовые корабли для защиты, чтобы это не ложилось на плечи отдельных игроков и не было кое-как. Вообще ПБ флот должен быть задачей клана, а не каждого игрока в отдельности. Получается проблема в организации или нежелания чем-то заниматься, что-то делать.

Это помимо того, что такой лидер военных организаций, как пиратский клан, должен наверняка понимать, что такое понятие, как бой в целом может быть разноуровневым. От самого простейшего плана: битва между двумя кораблями, до стратегических позиций флотов на карте. И во втором плане неужели тот факт, что за одну нацию может выступить неограниченное количество игроков не влияет на бой? У кого-то плохо с логикой? Сочувствую.
Не нужно сочувствовать там, где этого не требуется. Если ты нормально зашел в бой (при помощи телепорта или разрабы сделают фишку типа неприкосновенности ПБ флота) то все что случилось в бою зависит ТОЛЬКО от решений, а не возможностей. И за проигрыш пенять нужно только на себя. Ну или хвалить за победу.

Повторюсь. Сегодня Русские воюют на чужих территориях с иммунитетом в своих городах, потому что никто не может принести театр военных действий к ним домой.
Телепорт или неприкосновенность ПБ флота во многом решит проблему зерга и уравнит шансы на захват территорий.

July 27, 2020

18 minutes ago, TrollUnderTheBottom said:

Да не должно господство в чем-то давать преимущества в бою. Орда, альянс. Почему в пример приводят вечно то, что устарело? Это игра, умники (это разрабы). Посмотрите пример всех игр, которые прожили десятки, сотни даже тысячи лет: шахматы, шашки, футбол, монополия, покер, баскетбол, бильярд. Ну где механики игр позволяют заработать дисбаланс? В какой из этих игр? В каждой из них, еслИ рассматривать именно со стороны спорта есть баланс и победа достигается умом и тренировками. В какой ещё игре количество превращается в качество? Я знаю в какой: толпой за гаражами кого-то ногами отпинать. Другой не припомню. Ну видимо эта игра именно про гопоту и быдло, с учётом, что стримеры у неё тоже быдло и матершинники (это не про тебя Кольтес)

Тебе лишь бы полаять? Перечитай внимательно, что я написал. Где я сказал, что господство должно давать преимущество в бою?
"Сам придумал, сам обиделся?"
Где я приводил в пример то, что устарело??? Троль, ты меня пугаешь 🤷‍♂️
Речь идет только про захват городов. Открытый мир это мир ганка. Это номально. Но захват территорий должен быть более уравновешен. Сегодня большая нация может легко отскринить и не пустить малую нацию на ПБ. Отсюда у малой нации меньше возможностей быть конкурентно способной в борьбе за города. Телепорт уравнивает шансы. Никто и не говорит, что господство должно давать преимущество в бою. Ты хоть остановись на секунду и подумай о том, что ты прочитал

July 27, 2020

On 7/24/2020 at 6:32 AM, admin said:

Баланса нет. Орды всегда больше, или альянса - как не старайся
Вот если бы океан был только у французов а сантисима только у испанцев вот тогда надо было думать а балансе. А тут в бою все равно будет только 25 игроков. И если у какой то нации больше игроков то это заслуга нации и ее лидеров, так же как факт того что в еве пол нулей контролировал один альянс много лет была заслуга руководителей того альянса.

На вопрос "давайте подрежем многочисленной нации ноги" мы всегда будем говорить нет, колхоз не хотим. Текущий шторм мы пересидим. В отличие от прошлого раза. Рейты дорожают и это правильно

Приветствую. Нет, мы не говорим о том, что бы подрезать многочисленной нации ноги. Дисбаланс будет и должен быть всегда. Но, противостояние за господство на карте необходимо сделать более доступным для малых наций. Телепорт это хорошая фишка. Кстате, когда мы его дождемся? Думаю, что телепорт сам собой решит большинство проблем малых наций. Стенания были из-за невозможности попасть в ПБ. Сейчас это будет возможно.

19 hours ago, admin said:

ремки согласен
пушки на этой неделе все исправят

Обратите внимание на leaks пожалуйста. Я до сих пор считаю, что лики слишком занерфлены. Сейчас получил под брюхо и не паришься особо, когда наклон корабля должен быть частью стратегии боя. Вы очень много делаете в направлении боевки. Даже wind shadows рассматриваете. Получить пробоину ниже ватерлинии, даже одну, могло быть смертельно для корабля. А у вас друшлак плавает

July 24, 2020

10 minutes ago, admin said:

resistance, hardness.. They resist cannonballs, harder to break. But when they break they splinter easier.
While soft wood is easier to penetrate, but it does not break as energy just passes through.

Got ya, thank you!

July 24, 2020

On 7/23/2020 at 4:31 AM, admin said:

Teaks - resistance (But brittle)

Could you be a little more specific please?
What do you mean by "resistance"? HP or thickness?
What does it mean "brittle"?
Cheers

July 21, 2020

3 hours ago, admin said:

yes.

You will have to get the steam key (it will be sent by us) which you can use to add the game to game library.

How can I buy it if its not available on Steam yet?

EDIT: Never mind. Found it

June 15, 2020

Time for some testing...

June 12, 2020

1 hour ago, Farrago said:

I see a chance to finally (again) have a special Pirate mechanic: a Pirate should be able to be and remain enemies with everyone except other Pirates, no matter whom you happen to help or attack on any given day.

But admittedly this would be a big advantage for Pirates without a corresponding negative.

But another thought...

Perhaps this could be an opportunity to introduce letters of marque into the game. By default, everyone gets a letter for every other nation. That’s where we are now anyway. If you — a third party — enter a battle between two nations, you lose the letter. You would then have to buy another letter or marque for that nation in order to restore relations. It should be expensive, but not impossibly so. Say 5000 doubloons. Repeated necessary purchases would go up in price. Additional, higher levels of letters could be sold for higher prices which grant additional benefits with that other nation.

I think you nailed it mate. If they allow pirates to stay unchanged then I’m all good for this patch. This COULD be the difference pirates needed for a long time. Glad someone thought of this while I was upset killing a good drop of whiskey over my issues 🤣

June 12, 2020

26 minutes ago, Archaos said:

Your issue is more to do with the low population during your play time which makes you join any battle just to get some action.

Thats right and any change of mechanic that leads to further decrease of player population IMHO is wrong priority.
When RVR is done and does not drive people away. When players start enjoying crafting without even fighting. When players will have fun doing econ. When online population gets on a rise. When alliances done and make sense.
THAN such a change would make a priority. Until then its a wrong time for it.

Also proper mechanic should be implemented not as Karma. There should be properly done criminal mechanic for green-on-green for example. Not hard coded, but with game consequences, such as getting criminal tag that would allow your own nation to sink you without penalties etc

Besides 600 players in your timezone is also pretty low to keep players happy.

June 12, 2020

1 hour ago, admin said:

you are twisting words and you should not
I have said that i do not are about them being able to join some other nations battle for each other with the convoluted network of alts or secondary accounts just to pvp

Sorry, but I read them over and over again and this is how I hear them

June 12, 2020

1 hour ago, van stiermarken said:

the majority of players make the game glorious not one ore two players or a nation ganking others.
fair fights is the key not players with overpowered ships which have nothing better to do then playing the whole day.

as long as those people won't or don't understand that this game is for all the players, doesn't matter if good or bad, we don't attract more players.

I (and for sure more others) can live without "Anolytic" - "Sekira" and "Ram Dinark" - it has no influence to the game. maybe more players will then come back (again).

Sounds like a Tall Poppy syndrome to me. Ram was accused of anything but not about being unfair to what he brings to the fight as he usually faces more than one opponents on larger or equal ships than his.

Your arguments about OP ships or OP players have no relation whatsoever to the issue at hand - reduction of means to attack other players.
We have already been through this many times since players "like you" dont like being attacked by "players like me" and you want immunity and hard coded mechanic to protect you.
- Hence why we had rebalance after rebalance of ROE.
- Hence why we had green on green removed
- Hence why we had implementation of coastal defenses and soon after their removal (because guess what? removal of coastal hunting also reduced ow hunter and made game dull for everyone
- Hence why alliances were created and then removed again as they didnt work
- Hence why map grid was removed so ganking would be harded
- Hence why join timer was reduced so it would be harded to gank, but it bite back as ganked could not get protection
- Hence why self balance join was introduced

The list can go on and on and on. Maybe we should just go primal and remove all restrictions and make it free for all to attack, anywhere, anytime, anything.
Maybe THEN more players will comeback (again).

Changing the game aspects THATS what reduced player base!

I remember when we had 2000 players online and it was normal. We were very vocal about warning that implementing more restrictions will damage the very core of the game model and therefore reduction of interest. I dont want to sound like "this is the last nail" or "this patch will kill this game", but it surely will make it no better.
We all care for Naval Action as we invested plenty of time in it (Im personally over 10k hours). I have seen it all from all angles and directions.

Lets be honest here and look at the hard facts. Today we have 300-600 players online. If you believe that with online like that this game is playable you are kidding yourself.
Its just dragging on. You could still play Asheron's Call after 17 years but it felt like ghost land. Especially to those of us who remember trade hub being so full you had to jump so people would see where to come to trade with you in the crowd.

I stand my ground - I'm against this Karma patch for the reasons explained above. It reduces PVP further. It kills the very basis of the OW hunting. While proper RVR mechanic would have easily fix current issues while creating lots of PVP content. Period. But fails or wins is all about the choices people make

June 12, 2020

Make all battles free-for-all. Everyone join under their own flag.

Let players to police themselves. If British guy cause damage to British player in a battle he gets reported to players and soon the traitor will find out the hard way that the whole nation will start hunting him down. No pvp denied to anyone. Players take matter to their hands. No more green on green tribunal posts. Issue solved

During green on green in pirate nation that made nation chat the most friendly chat pirates ever experienced

June 12, 2020

13 hours ago, admin said:

I dont care
I care about 10 rookies who get upset because some assholes ruined their day by blocking or "accidental" chain, under false flag.

I beg to differ

You should never stop carrying about players who make the game glorious. They are those people who carry this game through time. You remove them by making their game less enjoyable and rookies will exit the room soon as they entered it.

Instead of bringing everyone to rookies levels you should bring rookies to everyone's level.

June 12, 2020

15 hours ago, Archaos said:

I do not see what your issue is with this. If you, as a pirate attack every other nations vessels then you are declaring that all other nations are enemies, so why would you want to join one of their battles to help one of them? You still have full freedom to attack other nations ships and help other pirates in battles, so you are the owner of your actions.

My issue is this. Since this game only has 300-600 players online (specifically on the lower end during my prime playing time) it greatly limits me of finding targets to attack. This might come as surprise for someone, but about 1/3 of my engagements are joined someone else's battles. I dont really care which side I join. I only care to get a kill. Exiting battle I might re-engage my "ally" and kill him too. There were nights where I couldnt find anyone and all I saw where already started battles. Since everyone is an enemy this means that as a pirate I will never be able to join any battles if there are no pirates involved.

Any hard coded mechanic that limits or grants players some kind of ability or inability will only cause more issues on the other end let alone finding way to exploit it. One of the things comes in mind for exploit is picking up an alt that is enemy of your enemy and attack him in OW to prevent being attacked.

Easy solutions to complex problems DO NOT exist and will never work.
What works for Fallout 76 with their online average of 30k players will kill rest of the PVP for solo hunters in NA with its 600 online players.

That is my issue

June 11, 2020

2 minutes ago, z4ys said:

this affects rvr and eco so its actual part of your demanded agenda. Even some may not like it or isnt part of the features they hoped for.

wtf? can you enlighten me what is my agenda?
This will negatively affect OW hunting. This is a PVP game. With RVR mechanic so much lacking that its content driving people away from the game what else is there left? OW hunting.
But with 300-600 players online you dont have a choice of hunting one nation. I have outposts to visit GB, US, RE, FR, SP, SW, DN... Not always you can tag someone in the OW as they are already fighting. Now this is gonna limit me even further with PVP...

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