Lord Roberts
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My personal opinion on this matter; Be careful who you allow access. It's worked for EVE for the past 10 years.
I also agree, not having a Bank because people can scam is terrible reason for not having it in.
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SOB has mainly moved to PVP1 but still has a tiny presence on PVP2
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Many people want this but sadly Devs had said they won't put this is till they can figure out a way that people can not scam it.
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That flag is/was used by them. Didnt say that everything?
Source was posted in that topic but is now hidden:
Once again lots of places use the SS.. not just the Nazi's, like how the Swastika is still used today as it means something completely different than the Nazi one..
They were also not banned for using that SS on their profile, I still do not see evidence of their apparent racism.
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while i don't agree with lord roberts perspective on this discussion he does make a valid point there is no evidence of racism.
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Except that clan isn't making thinly veiled Secret Service references
I am seeing a lot of fingers pointing but no evidence to back these claims up. If you used F11 like you should when you see something against the rules in global or any other chat in-game these people you claim are racist and make poor jokes would have been banned by now.
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One thing you can be sure of - that they know what the associations of 'SS' are AND they have no problem with being associated with it.
Many of the clans wave their flags in their forum banners and talk about 'freedom' and 'liberty' - well it all sounds a bit hollow if we let this pass
A game (or even a society) can turn toxic if we don't draw the line somewhere. And games are now a big part of society
I am not seeing any evidence that shows they are racists or them saying SS is associated with Nazi's
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my measurement is this if you continue to make racist comments in chat your clan name is SS was STARS but had SS ruins as the logo and your members continue to make religious oriented jokes. You are not RP'ing you are just a bigot and a racist trying to impose your corrupt ideology on a gaming community. Then add the gorse abuse of exploits to it and you are the most toxic element in this community and should be punished as such.
Provide evidence of such religious jokes and exploits instead of bashing a clan without evidence.
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There are lots of things in the world that have SS as it's abbreviation, just because they have it does not mean it has anything to do with Nazi Germany, really silly that you would get soo offended by such a thing...
Politically Correctness has gone too far.. can't even have SS on anything now..
If they are such a racist clan as you claim it to be, provide evidence instead of calling them out without backing it all up.
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Or come join SOB on PVP 1
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Thanks for your help
No problem sir.
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that dosent really help me either where is the icon for itAfter you made your images I see you posed an edit,
Thankyou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKGoHPGM7v8
Something went wrong here?????????
Press share on the youtube video and then post it in here
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I WANT THEM ALL
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HUZZAH!
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Proud of you!
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Yes we took them, so? I don't see the point in you saying that we took ports, were we not to? What is Britain going to do about it? Apparently they are leaving. We reset the timers to prime time. If you are looking for a fight, there is your fight, there is your content. You want fights, you have to facilitate them. Setting port windows to the least populated times....that is how you avoid fights. Setting them to prime time....that is how you create large battles. You want fights, come to the La Mona area before the bulk of the French move on, you'll have your content you say doesn't exist.Maybe even if you stick around the area, instead of just showing up for the port battle, blobbing around and then leaving after a single port battle, maybe then you will have your fights. Again, the reason you have not had content is that you have strategicly avoided said content that you claim you want.
This is becoming pointless, you seem to be wanting arguments and refuse to put forward a constructive reply, I am going to go do something else now, enjoy your yourself mate.
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You guys don't learn a thing....ports don't matter.
Uuummmm, you guys did create a thread boasting about taking 8 ports in 1 day and hold it against other nations, especially britain about how you guys are taking ports all the time
http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/12411-port-capture-records-all-servers/
It isn't fun, but we thought it would provoke a response from the brits other than quitting. And how else could we have taken the ports....brits set the port windows to times that guarantee there wouldn't be a fight. Why are you blaming Franch for taking ports during the port windows that were set by you and your nation?
But you took those ports? obviously the timers were not set at a time when you could not have any members on. I personally have not blamed france for anything nor have I witnessed it, and what would you be blamed for in the first place? taking ports? that's part of the time, you have that right to take them.
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One day of risky moves does not create fun for a month. You cite 4 singular events....what about the other 27+ days? If I recall British behavior around Vieques (one of your risks) for several days your fleet just sat in port for hours with one ship waiting outside as bait. France took the bait a few times knowing that your main force was hiding in port.... that was a risk. Siting in port and waiting for another nation to make a strategically mistake by taking the bait....I see no risk in that. You just wasted the fun factor for your people cause you were afraid to fight when there wasn't a risk and you didn't have overwhelming numbers. I would stop playing if I was told that I had to wait in port for hours.
I never once have told my guys in SOB to hide in a port so we can spring a trap or whatever, I honestly had nothing to do with the Vieques ordeal apart from taking Fred and 1 Swedish port, SOB sorta trickled out and focused on defending against the pirates in Haiti.
I don't know what you find risky or fun, maybe you guys taking 8 undefended ports in a row is fun and risky to you guys, but for us we wanted to attack defended ports, why SOB stopped overly expanding and only focusing on the area we knew we could successfully operate in without spreading too far out. I can't speak for the other clans.
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If it's content then switch servers will not change that, will it? If it's low server population....why do you think it got so low? You can say the grind or content, but the truth is that the largest groups just sat around for about a month, only making safe moves and only fighting battles that had guaranteed wins. That is why the risky French have only seen a roughly 10% drop in population while other nations are losing 50% or more. All nations play the same game and have the same content, so the real difference is the strategy and the realization that fun is more important than ports.
I have witnessed many British and others nations risky moves, British going to aves was very risky, same with fred and the Antilles in general, same with the Yucatan and with the Americans coming down to saint nic and the pirates attacking saint marc and saint nic... there are a lot of risky moves not just by the french.
I took my Victory from PR to Fred for the port battle, that is a risky move, same with us going to mort town and parrot cay with 3 Victories and doing 3 battles one after the other.
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Here my my opinion on this all.
The British and American Clans did not go to PVP 1 because they ran or were scared of the french or pirates or whatever other reason you think is true, the real reason is the population has been dropping badly, near 2-3 weeks ago the server pop was at around 800-900 and even 1k at peak, now it is at around 300-400.
Should we stick it out on PVP2 and sail around for hours looking for PVP? Should we be forced to leave when and if a merge finally comes?
People have gone to PVP1 because it's more exciting and entertaining, there is constant PVP around nearly every port, which can not be said for PVP2 at all, in PVP1 you can sail anywhere and find an enemy ship to attack.
You may believe we were scared and that is the reason people left but that is simply not true, but I can not tell you what you can say so you can believe what you wish.
We have gone to the British on PVP1 which are getting destroyed by the pirates and Dutch, we didn't go over here to join a superior side and dominate all the battles, if we wanted that we would join the pirates which we did not.
FUN is the only thing of strategic importance in games. Soldiers do not permanently die, ports don't mean a thing. If you can't keep your gaming group entertained, then that group is dead. You can't wait for other groups to come along and make things fun, you have to do that yourself and no server change is going to change that. Myself and other Frenchmen actually miss the pirate invasion about a month ago. We were strategically losing, but had a blast. Honestly, haven't had as much fun in this game since....been trying though. The pirates giving up was a huge shot to morale of the French, while a strategic victory, it meant that we had nothing fun to do. Then Brits invaded Sweden ... boom, we rushed in, lost a few times, but had fun. That died down, so we pressed West, hoping to get a reaction from Britain to give us the fight we are looking for...but alas, now they have folded too. This is another big shot to morale for the French, cause while we are "winning" it isn't fun.
Too many leaders in this game are risk-adverse. They play it safe. But the smart thing to do is be risky...if you lose, then no biggy, but if you win, great! Playing it safe leads to the potential of losing fights you should have won (not fun) or boredom (not fun). Risky means that if you win you can have loads of fun and if you lose you can still have fun cause it was a known risk. Switching servers will not change the experience or make it more fun if you simply do the same safe plays.
This is exactly why Slamz said that some people were ruining the game. The 2 largest nations were so afraid to lose that they didn't fight each other. I know some people criticized members of their own nation because they were fighting in strategically risky ways. Now looks what is happening. Large groups of players are bored and leaving ... just like was predicted. People's pride over winning got in the way of having fun, and despite being told what was happening, still didn't see the writing on the wall and simply fired back insults on the forums.
Remember, if you are a clan leader in a game, any game, and your group is not having fun, there is no one to blame but yourself... not the game, not the other groups, only you. Simply switching arenas will not change that, only a change in leadership will.
If the content is not there that is not the leaders fault, that is either the server you are on that has terrible population or the game itself lacking meaningful content.
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IMO - Should have kept it, at least until they could of added alternatives...The problem is the community is asking for content... This particular mechanic, like it or not, was very much enjoyable to EVERYONE who participates.It was by no means easy to coordinate 10-15 players all different ranks / ship types in the first place, add 10-15 angry AI 3rd Rates & it was actually pretty difficult.We lost ships...The point being, this is not sail up to a stationary target and pound away. This is fighting the largest AI fleets that can be found in-game atm.Not for XP... I'm Rear Admiral.Not for gold... I have enough gold through econ and ship building.But because I want LARGE SCALE BATTLES with all my friends...It is a FANTASTIC training mechanic.If there were AI fleets on the OS that consisted of 15+ 3rd Rates. Maybe even un-capturable 2nd & 1st Rates =)I would say of course remove it...Give us some EPIC fleets to hit... Just should not have removed it until an alternative PvE option was found and implemented.
I would love to see epic +15 3rd rate fleets or even victory pavel fleets you can not capture.
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Totally agree, no need for reinforcements except maybe around the capital for new players to get bearings before they get a beating.
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More nations = bad, not enough players for more than 3-4 nations at the moment.
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No one has reinforcements.
All I see here is you attempting to force your own opinoins on an entire community. Do you think if they took things away from thr Pirates they would fracture and suddenly all start killing each other?
Nope. The community is what makes us a Nation in our own right. If Brits were able to attack other British I am sure we would see more Brit on Brit than Pirate vs Pirate.
Yes no one AT THE MOMENT has reinforcements, did before.
And no, your community is not what makes you a nation, the game mechanics do. technically you are a nation even if you band together or not, you can do what every other nation can do...
Like i said, this is not the place to talk about this.
Clan Bank Simple as that
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there are a lot of others things in this game that can be griefed, should be just get rid of everything? like trading?