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semi off-topic : any news about your WIP Panthère ? Can this beauty be implemented in NA some day (e. g. today) ? on-topic : very nice idea of yours to help and encourage potential 3D-modelers to make ships for NA. Moreover, well done tutorials !

Certainly a langage error from me ! I meant well. Please, no removing ! For the sake of diversity. And I like this hut.

Careful : only 5 votes ahead... And it reads "initial poll"...

Indeed. But if there is only... ...winning ship selected at the end of the final poll (+ a possible wild card) as Steel implies, there's no need of a separate poll for small ones. Not to mention that mixing light frigates and heavy ones in a poll with only one winning would lead to the same kind of result as here : all votes for the bigger ones . I'd bet on the Fama (if selected), the Delft or the Venus.

They haven't. No steamer in (this) NA.

trader = navire de commerce / marchand en anglais. to trade = commercer Dans le jeu, il faut le prendre au sens large, y compris les navires de transport. C'est donc tout navire qui n'est pas de guerre. Le Gros Ventre est ainsi considéré comme un trader.

Whatever your choice about the poll, you already behave as a real 'Princesa' ! You wrote that you 'already saw the information from the start'. So you know all what we know : 'Princesa Real (...) probably carried 24-pounders.' She was said to carry 50 guns when built in 1819 (see Threedecks.com : Catalogo dos Navios Brigantinos) and when renamed Duchess of Braganza on the ship plan of the Royal Museum of Greenwich in July 1834. From your source, she carried 56 guns during the battle of Cape St Vincent in 1833, maybe an addition of 6 guns for that specific battle. no other detail images the stern image might look 'weak' to you but you can trust in NA Artists to make up a nice one. That's all we know for now... But you might find more... You'll have to vote with that info. Hope it helped. The problem with Portuguese ships is that we have very few plans/info available on the Net. Still waiting for an enthusiastic Portuguese, Brazilian or tourist to go and pick up info from local museums. Sources : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81579.html http://3decks.pbworks.com/f/Catalogo+dos+navios+brigantinos+(1640-1910)+-+Esparteiro.pdf

Personally, I'd like to point out that @Barberouge did a wonderful (and tiresome) job here selecting ships for this initial poll, considering that this very selection was totally dependent on the proposals made in the suggestion thread. Too bad more 9-pdr light frigates haven't been suggested here beforehand, as far as I am concerned. But you did a great job Barberouge !

Who knows, there might be one of each if the (hidden) rule is e. g. : 'only the 3 most voted ships of each category will be chosen for the final poll'.

The purpose of this poll is to fill in 3 gaps in terms of broadside guns including 32-36 guns, preferably with nations not well represented in game :

Oh il y a quand même de la place pour les frégates et les plus petits navires dans NA : dans l'OW en chasse et dans des batailles de port dédiées. Je pense plutôt que c'est dans la nature de la plupart des joueurs de toujours vouloir le plus gros pistolet, celui qui fait le plus de bruits ou le plus de trous... Alors que le combat en frégate légère est tellement plus fun (à mon avis).

As an armed trader, she would be perfect in game.

L'Hermione avec ses 42 canons dans NA n'est pas considéré comme une frégate légère dans le jeu mais comme une médium. Le problème que je soulevais, c'est que dans ce vote, personne (quelque soit la nationalité du votant ou du navire choisi) ne vote pour autre chose que des 74-80 canons.

L'avantage d'un jeu video, c'est que l'intérieur d'un modèle 3D est vide et souvent inaccessible. Pas de faux pont dans NA. Tu peux donc imaginer l'intérieur vaste, aménagé et meublé comme tu veux et rien que pour toi

Caliber of the guns carried by the 32-36 gun frigates of this poll : La Malicieuse carries 9-pdr Euridice, Niger-class, Santa Monica, Carolina and Friderichsvaern carry 12-pdr Saint-Nicholas carries 24-pdr I would have liked to see more 9-pdr light frigates in this poll as the category of 32-36 gun ships is meant to be implemented into the line-up between : 9-pdr HMS Cerberus (26 guns) / La Renommée (30 guns) and 9-pdr HMS Surprise (38 guns) I know that selection for ship poll is tough to make as it is dependent on proposals from the suggestion thread.

Ne restez pas focaliser que sur les Navires de lignes. NA, c'est aussi des frégates et notamment des légères de 32 à 36 canons. Et il en manque désespérément dans le jeu !!! Et il y en a un paquet dans ce sondage.

Plans and info there : http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/13962-xviii-cent-fluyts-of-the-french-east-india-company-with-plans/?do=findComment&comment=256897 @LatoucheTréville time for suggestion is over, as far as I know. Poll here : http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/22603-player-selected-ships-2017-initial-poll/ She would be a nice addition in a dedicated thread here : http://forum.game-labs.net/forum/79-ships-of-the-line/

Hoping that Light frigates with 32-36 guns (and even Heavy frigates with 50-60 guns) will receive some love from the voters... Right now, 6 out of the 8 most voted ships are 74-80 gun ones and the 2 others are a 56-gun ship and a 40-gun one.

Well... we do have quite a lot of 38-42 gun ships : Surprise, Hermione, Cherubim, Belle Poule, Essex, Pirate Frigate.

Cette fois, on a 4 navires français engagés dans le vote : frégate de 32 à 36 bouches à feu 1. La Malicieuse (1758, French 32-gun frigate) frégate lourde de 50 à 60 11. Le Jason (1724, French 52-gun 4th rate) vaisseau de 3ème rang de 70 à 80 21. Le Monarque, Sceptre-class (1747, French 74-gun 3rd rate) 22. Téméraire-class (1782, French 74-gun 3rd rate)

La Comète French 9-pdr light frigate 1752 30+ guns Designed by Joseph-Louis Ollivier Plans: Ship model and drawings from: http://modelisme.arsenal.free.fr/jacquesmailliere/La%20Comete/index.html Dimensions (pied du Roi): Lenght: 118' 0'' Breadth: 31' 8'' Depth in hold: 16' 0'' Armament : Gundeck: 26 x 8 French pdr Quarterdeck: 4 x 4 French pdr Crew: 209, 200 crew and 9 officers Sources : Jean Boudriot, The History of the French Frigate 1650-1850, p. 88 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7574 Ornament plans Available in French Archives(Number 502): http://www.servicehistorique.sga.defense.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/MV_PLANS-BATIMENTS-A-VOILES.compressed.pdf From Sella22, Thx : http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/15863-la-comète-french-frigate-1752-with-plans/

@LatoucheTréville Argh ! too bad. As a matter of fact, I haven't come across any Sicilian plan yet...

HMS Carcass (1759) She was a 8-gun British sloop-rigged bomb vessel, later refitted as a survey ship and used during an exploration of the Arctic Sea with HMS Horserace in 1773-1774. They reached the arctic archipelago named Svalbard before turning back because of the ice. Horatio Nelson served abroad her. http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/110116.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/85420.html Sources : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Carcass_(1759) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_and_American_voyages_of_scientific_exploration

Enorme changement !!! C'est du lourd (ou du léger, question de point de vue...)

@LatoucheTréville Are there plans of the Partenope ?