LeBoiteux

Viva WWI planes !

would you mind posting the flags of their living room ? 🙂

GL forums quite focused on MMO Naval Action for a long time. It might partly explain why there are quite a few Multiplayer fans around asking for Multip. in any GL game 🙂

Strangely enough, the word 'balanced" sounds very much like a synonym of 'weak' in your sentences 😁

^ The French created permanent companies of artillery in 1668. So the British couldn't wait too long to do it 😁

Indeed. Maybe part of the issue is also the timeframe of NA ships ? From what I know (ie France), French stopped building 9-pdr frigates (such as La Renommée) in 1774 and 12-pdr frigates (such as L'Hermione) in 1798 while building 18-pdr frigates during 1781-1813 and 24-pdr ones during 1772-1843. I don't know if a similar chronology may apply to the British ships. However, a 9-pdr small frigate built in 1758 such as HMS Cerberus 'cannot be in the same class with' a 24-pdr heavy frigate built in 1797 such as the Endymion as you stated above... (btw threedecks.org that you seem to know and use and that is based on R. Winfield's books classifies all the ingame 9-pdr shallow water frigates as 6th rates according to that British rating system. But I for one do not know anything about this system.)

I guess he is Jean Baptiste Joseph Bara, 1757-1830, maître-sculpteur at Lorient. He drew, for example, the project of sculpture of the frigate L'Atalante in 1812 approved by Le Déan and kept at the Archives of the Navy. Maybe replaced by Louis Hubac in 1817 as sculpteur. Archives of his naval pension : here.

right-click on the pic in imgur, open in a new 'onglet', copy the link and paste it here and you get that :

use https://imgur.com, click 'new post', etc. then copy/paste here the link it'll give you

the wink was more about showing you I wasn't the only one using a classification based on pdr than my actual asking you to take the time to give your opinion about what I wrote. Thanks for that. Neither did the 9-pdr frigates of the game (except maybe the British version of the Surprise, according to some NA posts iirc, but not to R. Winfield, British Warships in the Age of Sail). Neither did the 12-pdr L'Hermione... The 9-pdr frigate La Renommée built in 1747 and broken up years before the invention of carronades should be the queen of the frigates in her ocean with her 9-pdr guns... like lots of other frigates. That's the impossible equation. Reserved areas was just an attempt to solve it. At least there are the shallow waters for the 9-pdr frigates.

Among your references, don't you have the date of 26 May 1716 when George the 1st created the first two permanent 'companies' of Royal Artillery ? Am I wrong ?

Does it include the xebec and her lateen yards put horizontally (at Broad reach/Running) ?

just a reader of the forum I guess 🙂

@AeRoTR we agree with each other on the issue, not on the solution. You're surely right. I keep quiet from now on 🙂

if we take this very interesting reasoning of yours further, there should be reserved areas (such as the current shallow waters) where : only the 9-pdr frigates (and smaller ships) meet and fight (Surprise, Hercules, Pandora, Renommée) only the 12-pdr frigates (and smaller ships) meet (L'Hermione, Belle Poule...) only the 18/24-pdr frigates (and...) meet (Trincomalee, Endymion...) only the 7th rates meets only the 6-pdr ships meets etc. @DeRuyter ... 😉

Comparing the lightest in-game 5th Rates (such as the Cerberus) and the heaviest ones (like the Trincomalee) is like comparing the WWI aircrafts/tanks and the WWII ones (or let's say early-WWII ones vs late-WWII ones) and wanting to make the lightest ones as competitive as the heaviest ones is a nonsense. IRL : Cerberus : built in 1758, 6th-rate, 28 guns, heaviest guns : 9-pdr, length of gundeck : 119' Trincomalee : built in 1816, 5th-rate, 50 guns, heaviest guns : 18-pdr, length of gundeck : 150' Devs's choice to give most of the in-game 5th Rates 32-pdr full-carro is already a tool to reduce this RL gap between them.

Bonne idée. De toute façon, le Duguay-Trouin a eu une belle fin le 4 novembre 1805 et c'est celle-là qui compte : Sinon, l'étude et des relevés du bâtiment avant destruction par des historiens, des architectes navals, etc. auraient peut- être été plus judicieux qu'une pure conservation.

@Archdouche That was just a joke. af Chapman's plans are great. That's what matters about this thread. 🙂

Now I know why there's no Nobel Prize for mathematics 😉 :

Nice collection ! 🙂

Now that the development of the first chapters of the US/GB campaigns seems to successfully progress, does the idea of implementing some day some other campaigns (France, Spain, Russia...) becomes even more worth considering ?

ok

En effet, avec des drapeaux ramenés vers l'arrière et non sur le même plan que la figure (comme sur le monument), ce qui fait penser aux ailes d'une Tourterelle. C'est quel monument, quelle période ?

c'est pas des ailes qui partent du bouclier ?

@Wagram Merci pour cette réponse. Je n'avais jamais remarqué que deux navires (même de type différent) pouvait porter le même nom en même temps. Tu donnes 32 canons à la corvette (comme un autre poster du forum). C'est quoi ta source ? Demerliac ? Pour Boudriot, c'est 30 : 24x 8-pdr + 6x 4-pdr (pour la Fidèle, un navire-soeur ou frère plutôt 😉 Pour R. Winfeld, French Warships in the Age of Sail 1786 - 1861, c'est 30 aussi, mais avec 22x 8-pdr + 2x 12-pdr et 6x 36-pdr (obusiers) pour la 'class Unité" On a les plans de la Tourterelle, sa sistership, 'as taken' here avec une figure de proue intéressante :