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@Timothy, if the ships would be all 17ct 'golden age' then a kind of 30 years war fashion or a bit later would be great. But clear, such clothings mixed with napoleonic uniforms sounds only false. But absolutely, why not older ship types with some newer? A 'thing' can be hundred years old and still useful, sure in reality it would be 'updated' also in design, that happened to some ships, even to the Victory. I think its everytime at least a small problem, if there are historical templates. Some mix between different centuries will be soon fantasy without sorcerers, but still fantasy. Its not important if a knight fights against a Virginian Rebel or a thirty years war mercenary against a Grenadier of Friedrich II of Prussia, both is only wrong. Ok, can be funny, not for me. Anyway perhaps devs decide all fashion between 1600 and 1820 is possible, therefore i won't kill my computer but would be a bit vapid.

17ct hats would be not good, because main ships will be 18ct, it seems most second half. Even 'my' small Avatar has a fashion about 1730, would be for late 18ct totally outdated . If i play such a game like this coming NA i dont want to see par example the Victory with 17ct sledge hat officers and fashion. Its not only the colour of the hats. Nothing against some 100 years old floating coffins, but 100 years old clothings, please not. I would also not like games showing early 20ct. spiked helmets of the german army and 60 years newer Nato helmets for same battles. Curiously ww2 games are the only games most devs have at least small serious thoughts about something fitting. And there are many discussions weather a weapon, equipment part or uniform was invented one month earlier or later^^. For all other historical games 100 years seems to be nothing... all the same . Full plate armor with pot helmets of 1330? Why not? All is knights equipment.... Its first time perhaps funny, second time only curious, and afterwards only crap. Ok, most times if any games getting in development only trashy funny like some hollywood teenager yahoo adventuremovies, folks everytime saying 'its only a game', but for me all games must not be only realised in superficial tastes. Perhaps at least one game goes another way... Again, devs make a game with ships most second half 18ct, also there will be many older ones, the fashion should be period and not chaotic randomed arbitrary like many most games..... thats my taste

The open 'world' will surely very big and then splitting the community to different games? Stay at one 'game' and hopefully fitting period.

@Balck thats why i would prefer like i wrote something different to M&B style, to much needed resources for a realisation, also i like very much M&B (most time i played the crpg mod). Anyway only statistics are finally to few. But devs shall work step by step, to see crew fighting is something for the future.

Mount and Blade is great for close combat style, for me especially because its the only game mounted fight is possible in a believable way. For Naval Action i would perhaps prefer a melee fight without a special instance like in PotBS, also for a M&B style an instance would be surely the needed solution. But if i remember right devs also are stating such a special new gameplay possibilty would need to much resources and will not be in planning. So an animated style like we as players order troops to boarding, see them fighting and giving them further orders during the entire still visible sea-battle would fit perhaps better. The existing animated crew then with more animations. Anyway perhaps in future there is also land fight ^^, then the game will be called 'Naval & Land Action' with a M&B style combat. Sure, i would like it. And for our time-line we must fight (if military and enough 'soldiers') in line tactics.

And warships get also some naval-infantry/marines. But thats far future,..... if..... ^^. Anyway first some ship-officers would be fine. Perhaps later not only as statistics, also as 'animated' models.

Merry Christmas to all !

I am a bit nosy if we 'must' sail and navigate into such piers. Would be also interesting to see anchored ships.

One year more, but otherwise the same!

@Destraex, i also 'hope' there are not to much funny possibilities only because some folks would like rafts (with 'shirt'sails) and others (space)ships. All are surely able to swim in water..... " I my houseboat, please implement it in the game, ....here you get exact construction plans " Sure, i exaggerate.....

I am really nosy in which way the devs will decide. But please get no heartattack, your Avatars 'heart' looks to sweet for that! ^^

Its clear still not absolutely decided, but to see 16.ct galleons would be to outdated, many details of those are quite medieval-renaissancelike, and so i think (its my opinion ) the ships should be at least 'mid-baroque'. Also the Sovereign of the Seas would be (for me) to early. Like months ago written, about 1670-18XX would be ok. Anyway i will get no heart-attack if i will see a Hanse-Kogge

Exactly ^^

Great project, absolutely. Curious also a french project is to build/recreate a medieval castle with contemporary materials. Also a huge intention.

Ahoi again, the BAC (bandenburgian-african-company) was factly the trading but also caper-war organisation of Brandenburg. They have those 34 ships, also other warships and the normal trading ships were factly 'rent' if needed, its something common for Brandenburg in the 17.ct. So warships were used also as well-fortified trading ships, but many ships were not owned, more leased or rent. I read a fine scientific work about the brandenburg-prussian navy of that period and its clear Brandenburg could never afford also a huge trading fleet. First, in baltic sea Sweden, Denmark were to powerfull rivals. Brandenburg used their weaponed ships as traders, as warships and as caper-ships. Smaller ships, nearly boats were clearly used in the baltic sea. So Brandenburg was never like Netherlands, which was in 17ct perhaps 'the' purest sea-power in that period. But you know in 18ct. the sun of that power also sunk very fast. One example: during the spanish war of succession, the now called BAAC with homeoffice in Emden (the second 'A' stands now for American^^) was in the years 1704/05/06 not more able to send own ships for service and trading, reasoned by lack of funds. So they established a new commercial model, only to assign concessions for trading with the colonies. But first they must again rent two ships for starting that action and that costs again something.^^ Also clear that means no own fleet and also a reason why the now Prussians disband soon (1711, Friedrich Wilhelm I. nine days after succeeding his father) officially the whole fleet, it was not more rentable comparing to the existing sea-powers. And absolutely a not unimportant aspect: Prussia avoid most costly conflicts in that war-period with the main sea-powers, allied or hostile. Contradicting to Netherlands, Denmark or Sweden, all wanted to be sea-powers and lost nearly all influence during 18ct. Exact numbers are very few, but between 1692-1711 there were demonstrable 63 commercial journeys of that fleet, 27 ships were lost by caper, seizure or corruption. In those 63 journeys 200 ships left the harbours, which means not 200 different ships, often the same. Its comparing to other nations really a small number. i can give a link for that publication, its a *pdf file and... in german: Maywald, Torsten: Preussische Seefahrt : 1605 - 1772 Intentionen und Hintergründe. - Masterarbeit, Zürich, 2011 - 545 KB

Salut and Ahoi together! In 18ct. there were many wars in which Prussia was involved, but the 'Navy' of that country is nearly unknown..... why? First info, i will give at the end of the threadstart some links for this topic, the best "wiki" link is sadly only in german, but there is exactly explained the Kur-Brandenburg Navy and its follower (or not-follower) Prussia. Not all folks are surely knowing that Prussia exist as 'Nation' first since 1701, there the Kurfürst of Brandenburg became King 'in' Prussia (important, first not King 'of' Prussia). In 1670's Brandenburg wanted also some colonies, especially in Africa, but nearly without ships it was not possible. Mainly there were first hired now some ships with captains from Netherlands, like Benjamin Raule who was factly a privateer (officially also in Netherlands a shipowner, merchant and enterpriser but for others clear only a pirate). But 1684 was the historical date for the foundation of the 'Kurbrandenburgische Marine', some ships were built for that, others bought or hired. With that date there was ordered a painting presenting that 'fleet' of 34 ships (painted by Lieve Verschuier): So the Navy had have 1684 34 'warships'. But after the death 1688 of 'Kurfürst Friedrich Wilhelm" his successor the later King 'Friedrich I.' lost interest to the most expensive fleet and as Brandenburg became 1701 Prussia only 11 of those ships were left for action. Interest for the 'colonies' were also lost and Friedrichs follower Friedrich Wilhelm I. disbanded the fleet, also his interests were absolutely in 'owning' the 'best' infantry in europe, ships were unneccessary for him. The colonies were mostly sold to the Netherlands. Its not unimportant to know that it was clear also for the Prussian princes they could never keep up with other 'navy nations'. Especially Netherlands had have in 17.ct. about 35000 (what a number) smaller and larger official sea-ships and every year there were built more then 2000 new trading and warships (sure also ordered by other nations). More than 70000 seaman were hired every year. Anyway those numbers showing that Brandenburg with its '34' ships was more a nice prestige object, also the ships made their service. But now, how Prussia or Brandenburg could be a part of the game? Some ships are well known.... also if i remember right in PotBS , for end 17ct. really nice ships. Nevertheless, i wanted to show only some info about, not to demand that fleet must be ingame, especially there was a harsh end at the beginning of 18ct. So, now the links, the huger documentary in german, a list of 'all' brandenburgian ships included; the smaller also in english, but there you get not really good info: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurbrandenburgische_Marine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_Navy and for Prussia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preu%C3%9Fische_Marine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Navy I hope its not to uninteresting, best regards!

You are right, so my hopes are growing again.

Hello, my first post, but anyway .... i hope not the last I thought and wished the series would and could be continued, but now its surely to long ago since the last episode. Nevertheless would be great if we could see the now about '10 years older' Hornblower.... in new films.