BungeeLemming

Hier dreht es sich im Kern immer um das selbe Problem: Zu wenig PvP Zu wenig Spieler Zu wenig PvP Zu wenig Spieler Das ist eine Abwärtsspirale, die von den Devs schon vor Ewigkeiten als solche wahrgenommen wird. Was war zuerst? Die Henne oder das Ei? Warum wenig neue Spieler bleiben ist simpel: Das Spiel ist sack schwer und hat ingame keine Tutorials oder andere Hilfen. Die meisten scheitern schon daran, die ersten NPC Gefechte zu überleben geschweige denn einen Gegner zu versenken. Noch weniger suchen sich dann tatsächlich auch Hilfe und die, die das tun sind dann das eine Prozent, das für mehr als nur zwei Wochen bleibt. Was ich anmerken möchte ist, dass eine Diskussion durch Respekt und gegenseitiger Wertschätzung funktioniert. Wenn jemand eine Meinung vertritt, so soll er das bitte sachlich begründen und nicht auf Gefühle oder Hörensagen. Behauptung <-> Fakt Was hier los ist, hat mittlerweile wenig mit Diskussion und viel mit sich gegenseitig aufheizen zu tun. Es wurde eine Idee vorgestellt und die gilt es (bei Interesse) zu erläutern. Und das möglichst objektiv. Bei Desinteresse einfach die Finger still halten.

Not sure why I didnt write it already but I did manage to get the sketchfab model to work: https://skfb.ly/6n7Kx A while ago already O_o So pardon me on the late update

Working title? My suggestion: leadded seas! With the ammount of shot flying around if all the main and secodary gun batteries are going at it? dam thats gonna be crazy. And I really really like the idea of designing my own Batleship. Ive seen such a game bevore on youtube but cant possibly remember its name.. It was a really old title tho..

You forgot to mirror your rudder In general your model improved a lot over time. Tiphat for that. And a tip that the devs game me once when I asked them about my own models was to flesh my galleries out with more subdivisions. Mine looked kinda similar to yours and so Id like to give you the same tip 2nd hand. I wont give much critizism cause it still appears like a WIP when looking into it deeper. But it realy comes together nicely!

Dont *point* at me or other mods with stuff thats ingame. I am a volunteer helper on the forums. Not a dev. I write my personal opinion which can differ totally from the opinion of others. Mercury is ingame cause she actually fought a ship of the line and came out victoriois. Thats why. Its an incredible feet to have on your side^^ And thats all I can tell you. Other than that I cannot look into the minds of the devs

"representative".. ? Sorry but the only representative ships of the american navy that we have and should have ingame are: rattle, essex and consti. US SoLs are NOT representive for the time our game is set. Rattle since these corvets harassed the brits immensly during the war. Essex cause that was more of a typical sized us vessel and consti cause.. murica^^ (first noticed big frigate with long 24s) And looking at this ship its like a Consti with an additional deck and structural additions. Another step towards the economical design of ships in general. Id like to stop bevore the spar deck became adapted. Ships launched are afloat but they lack planking everywhere but to the first wale. So the question for me is: Was she afloat like I described? Or was she finished and build up for service?

its coming. when? soon (TM)

There wont be any new ships added to the poll. This one is final. Everyone suggesting ships should have done that a week ago. There was a thread in which you could promote your favourite ships. By now its too late. No matter how epic you or others think the vessel you like is. Personally I am a bit sad that Temeraire is getting all the votes. In regards of french ships we do not have a shortcome. But other nations are lacking. But I am glad that Montanes and wreker are in front. Also, I hope we get a seperate poll for the smaller vessels. Cause the big ones drain the votes for the worse of the frigates.

Model them. They consist of the frames and a transparent face that is the glass. This is the sternpiece of my wreker class vessel:

Calm down This is not the final vote, this is the poll that is going to narrow the choices. Once this one is over we will have another poll with only about 10 ships left (or rather less) And its not yet decided. Ive seen polls going all over the place during their "lifetime"

Christian is actually under development. teasers have been sent out long ago and she will likely be ready soon (TM)

In order to get this vessel credit: (I posted her earlier but in a collection) A dutch 32 gun frigate, armed with 12 pound cannons and a few 36s carronades on her quarterdecks: The Euridice:

my bad /facepalm

so just bevore this thread is closed I want to sneak this ship in: Göta Lejon A swedish 3rd rate ship of the line of 74 guns in total: 26 x 24pdr 26 x 18pdr 22 x 6pdr https://digitaltmuseum.se/021176972504/gotha-lejon

Cause my browser went down in front of me and I didnt feel the urge to describe her further. Beeing a small temeraire still means she is from similar plans. dimensions scaled down and whatnot. It was described in that thread in more detail She is definately interesting since she was build in shallow waters and helped towards the deep sea by pontons or whatever they are called.. Quite a feet to bring a 3rd rate ship of the line from a shallow port towards her destiny. Flyff describes how she was build in venice.

One class that is still missing in this game and the list as we have it is the Temeraire class, 74 gunned 3rd rate ship of the line. The first page has a reply that features one this class' vessels the "Redoutable" which fought broadside to broadside with HMS Victory at Trafalgar. So now I present you the "le Rivoli": Beeing of the Temeraire class she was armed with: 28 x 36pd long guns 30 x 18pd long guns 14 x 8pd long guns & 10 x 36pd carros A crew of 690 men and 3 officers (thats not much, is it) She has a rather unimpressive time in the french navy since she was actually captured on her very first voyage by the british. plans and paintings:

"Rainho de portugal" 1791 (also known as Rainha de Portugal) A Portuguese 74 gun ship of the line armed with: 28 x 36 pdr 28 x 24pdr 8 x 24pdr + 16 x 12pdr With a Complement if 669 men -> https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7863 She was part in a joint operation fleet under Lord Howe's Channel Fleet in 1794, cruized to the Mediterranean in 1798-99 and went to brazil as part of the escort for the Braganza royal family in 1807. In absence of portuguese dockyard facilities the british took it upon them to service the portuguese fleet and thus we have the plans of this magnificient vessel in great detail. This is apparently a dipiction of her:

Id like to remember you all that the timeframe is from 1680 until 1820 +/-5 years. 10 at the very most. 1843 is very likely out of the period

I need to say that the Chattam is a direct sistership to the "Admiraal de Ruyter" which looked exactly like my model bevore her modernization. She carries 78 guns on her broadside. Maybe only 76 because I am not 100% sure if the forecastle held 4 or 6 guns. Its possible my 5th and 6th cannon is too much. That said she is a perfect heavy 3rd rate. lots of big guns - a mediocore crewcount About the william rex: She is a fantasy ship. Its a model that represents the shipbuilding of the dutch around 1700+/-. There are no real ships from which she was modeled from. Its more a mix of all

So my time has come. Finally. All of the plans I present can be found here: I hereby present you the wreker class, dutch ship of the line in her 80-gun config: The Chattam (sistership of the Admiraal de Ruyter!) You could also name her Admiral de Ruyter and adjust her decoration to match the admiral's look. Cause the hull and all is the same. next up, for everyone who follows my sketchfab there are no surprises: A dutch 32 gun frigate, armed with 12 pound cannons and a few 36s carronades on her quarterdecks: The Euridice: Next up we have a series of corvets that feature 12 pounders as primary armament (12s only, mind you): The Venus: So much for my dutch lineup. If you want something danish. There is a 18 pounder frigate called The Freja: And for all that want to go crazy: The Spiran

you are splitting hairs. Snow is a rigging type. If you didnt have the extra spar that is the mast for the spanker you would actually have a brig rigged ontario. What name a ship has doesnt make is less real. The snow is the ontario. Yes. Is that wrong? cause its name differs or better said cause she does not have a name at all? I cannot follow your thought process. The Cutter is the british cutter "alert". Also a real thing based off from real shipplans. Not sure whats fictional about her. The shipmodels are all real. No magic in those. Some ships are overgunned cause the devs armed their bridle ports or gave them too heavy a load. Now. Speaking Galleons. and the race buikd galleons were a evolution of the galleon. Eventually when galleons and race build variants developed further you got the typical ship of the line of the 17th century. The dutch seven provincien which is a clear evolution from these race build galleons was rejected. and that is a vessel from 1665. Just at the outer edge of the games timeframe. What I want to make clear is that old ships have a very very slim chance to getting ingame. And that is for several reasons. They will be hoplessly underpowered compared to other vessels that fulfill the same duty. Sailing: worse. Artillery: worse. Armour (construction methods): worse. All they have is high castles to make a good boarding platform. (and those were reduced to make the race refit)

Please dont get me wrong but the game - until now - managed to be free of any magic ships. And it will hopefully rest with a heavy unrealistic rattlesnake that would in real life be unable to perform like she does in game. Nobody would arm her with quarterdeck guns (which in real is more a poopdeck than a real quarterdeck if you think about it) The forum does feature a collosal collection for ships and 99% of those are real things and inside the games timeline which is from about 1680 until 1820 +/-5 to maximum 10 years. Plans and models are there and some 3D ship models, too. Just take a look and be in awe what the community managed to gather. -> http://forum.game-labs.net/forum/28-shipyard/ Not saying that there will never be any fictional vessel ingame but.. I personally and certainly hope not.

throwing a bone: https://sketchfab.com/bungeelemming/models .. or two:

Das betrifft alle server, weil die devs keinen extra PvE server haben. Das wird 1:1 gespiegelt und fertig. Was ändert sich schon? gar nichts. Denn die Karte kann sich aktuell auch nicht ändern..

Here you go: