[Hostility mission - Mechanic Change Suggestion]

1 minute ago, Nixolai said:

You are being hypocritical m8.

How so, HRE is not my clan, even if it was i dont have to agree with it. And i clearly phrased it as "I think this should be changed". Not everything any 1 player does is representative of the nation.... So thanks for your input.

[Hostility mission - Mechanic Change Suggestion]

In the interest of making some rules against this, I want to draw your attention to Knuddel here for joining a hostility mission in a basic cutter and immediately surrendering it to force us to sit in the now empty hostility mission for 45 minutes.

Firstly why are basic cutters even able to join? Why does surrendering 1 ship of effectively zero BR still force the 45 minutes rather than 15?

If you can join and fight reasonably, sure come on in! That is the fun part of the game so if we have to wait 10 minutes for a fight so be it. But no one else joined at any time and i struggle to believe that Knuddel, the sort of the guy he is, was doing this for any other reason but to waste peoples time for the sake of doing so.

See below the screenshots (i couldn't have the tab screen aswell as having the battle timer at the same time, so see both screenshots 1 & 2 below). You can clearly see he joined immediately and then left. There is also no valid argument of him wanting to see what we had in our fleet as he saw us sail into the bay while he hid under the fort. This was done for one reason only and it should not be able to occur.

You can also see the third screenshot after 45 minutes... all those Russian ships he was keeping the battle open for! Ow wait... 

https://prnt.sc/u7v5fs

https://prnt.sc/u7v66e

https://prnt.sc/u7vjjo

I think going forward everyone would appreciate some mechanic changes to stop such abuse.

Maybe a BR requirement? Even 20% of attackers BR would mean something of note would have to be bought and stop the ability to just screw with people. 

Regards

[Swedish - Russian War]

Just now, Lt Sekiro said:

Deluxe Pb fleet

 

 

What the plan for sweds now ?

Enjoy the zone

[Swedish - Russian War]

2 minutes ago, van Veen said:

GG Sweden! 

I'm just a little sad it's over now. HAVOC and CABAL were always good opponents. A bit salty at times though. But, since it's good practice for HAVOC to disperse and assemble again in another nation, I suppose we'll meet again soon. 

I like Sweden, pretty sure most intend to stick around.

GG Though, shame it couldnt continue but for now, i go to sleep.

[Swedish - Russian War]

3 minutes ago, Malcolm3 said:

Will San Juan be returned to Danes, so they could attack another nation, but not Sweden?

All virgin island ports will be returned to Danes.

Peurto Rico is up to russia what they do with it.

[Swedish - Russian War]

Just so everyone is aware, Sweden has pulled out from this war. 

Many thanks to everyone on both sides who put the time in to make this an interesting (Even if sometimes salty) war. Spain in particular, best allies you can ask for - Highly recommended!

Unfortunately the time commitment to this game, particularly on the RvR side, has finally taken its toll and so before to much damage is done to our homeland we are calling it a day. A deal is hopefully being concluded to bring this to a somewhat civil end and allow all sides to continue playing the game.

Well done Russia, its been a long fight but you got there in the end

Try not to cap to many of our traders as we leave San Juan!!

See everyone in the PZ

[Грифинг]

28 minutes ago, Hr FrosT said:

Bollocks. Liq/Liam/Gooser usually show up and defend those. Definitely not US players. You don't have enough players to cover so many night flips.
Dodge by definition.

So by that definition everyone is dodging with day timers as no one can defend all day time timers. We have had more than 2/3 of our timers in day time at all times. We just keep a special few for the danes and 2/3 for the russians otherwise you all get to carried away with PvE.

We also defended the majority of our night timers the other day. The fact we didnt win is immiterial. We filled most and left 1. The same as we would do in a daytime multiflip.

 

[Грифинг]

22 minutes ago, Captain Reverse said:

@Ink @Liam790 @Tac

абсолютно не важно сколько нас держали в бою. Есть факт грифинга. Потдвержденный видео и скриншотами игрового чата. В котором 2 раза четко говорится о том, что нас будут держать в бою что бы мы пожалели о том что пришли. 

Это мои 5 10 15 20 30, не важно, минут моей жизни. 

Вы портите мою игру что запрещено правилами стима. Остальное не важно. Меня абсолютно не волнует действия Путина или любая другая ситуация от любого другого человека. 
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it doesn’t matter how many of us were kept in battle. There is a fact of grifting. Confirmed video and game chat screenshots. In which 2 times it is clearly stated that we will be kept in battle so that we regret that we came.

These are my 5 10 15 20 30, it doesn’t matter, minutes of my life.

You spoil my game that is prohibited by the rules of Steam. Nothing else matters. I absolutely do not care about Putin’s actions or any other situation from any other person.




 

See largely speaking i actully agree with you. I dont like what this game has become. But admin and ink have made previous rulings and this is in line with game rules.

Trust me, i am more than happy to see them ban this sort of stuff, but it has to be consistent and they let everyone know when the rules change.

[Грифинг]

Will be interesting how this one turns out. Given we also have a recording of North Viking and Co doing the exact same thing at El Cuyo less than a week ago. We are merely fighting fire with fire. 

Also stop being a big baby. It was 10-15 minutes max. North Vikings was well over half an hour

[Griefing from HMS Acheeron]

1 hour ago, Yettie said:

Мы шли НЕ на портовую битву, мы шли в Тумбадо, об этом я написал в первом сообщении. Не понимаю о чем пишут джентльмены, как гриффинг в открытом мире может быть законным и при каких-то обстоятельствах. Тем более, что человек осознает что он делает и пишет это в чат.

Ow believe me, i want a decision on "griefing" as much as anyone. However as a server up until now the consensus has been if its RvR related, tough luck. Dont try to claim you were sat in the join circle of a Russian PB but wernt going to join and just wanted to "go to tombado". Thats BS and we all know it.

This "Griefing" isnt new. If a decision is made to remove it im all for it, but based on previous cases, this is completely within the rules. 

Edit  - I even posted in this forum this week asking for a decision on RvR griefing. It didnt come, so this Swedish player is fine for now. Change the rules by all means but this tribunal is going nowhere. 

[Griefing from HMS Acheeron]

To give context. This was screening for the port battle at Mugeres. This poor Swede just did his part for that nation.

This is not tribunal worthy. If this is punished then the inconsistency in decisions i laughable. 

[Tagging to help ally.]

4 minutes ago, The Rear End of Sauron said:

 

 

ty for the clarification

in a parallel situation except in RvR if a nation tags a Port Battle, and has no other PB's within a 90 minute window on either side and doesn't show up and has stated clearly on the forums that their intent is to just grief the players of the other nation how is this viewed?

some people i have spoken to are of the opinion it is absolutely fine because all is fair in RvR 

others have stated it is intentional and deliberate time wasting and griefing of not just one captain, but many captains

am curious as to your view on this

ty

 

@admin @Ink it would be nice to have a bit of a ruling here, even if not clear cut, but at least to see how you view it.

we know each case it different etc etc but knowing what your general view on when griefing is griefing even in “RvR”. 
 

As I for example know I can’t leave port currently within 3/4 hours of a PB unless I am willing to surrender the ship I am sailing as the moment a Russian or Dane sees me, even if they can’t kill me I’m in for hours or endless tagging purely so I can’t get to the Pb. 

[Regional servers]

5 minutes ago, rediii said:

Noted. Good to know I lose track of all the Havoc alt clans

😂😂😂😂😂😂 how much money do people think we put into this game. 

[Fresh RVR History (from 06-2019)]

1 minute ago, Genevieve Malfleurs said:

stop shitting if you don´t like the shit! and shove your false pity up somewhere else :).

Well I was just giving a realistic assessment of RvR. Sweden will be fine, as probably will russia. It’s you guys that will suffer. I’m just acknowledging  that and saying maybe something needs to change. 
 

Not sure the hostility is nessassary 

[Fresh RVR History (from 06-2019)]

52 minutes ago, Staunberg🇩🇰 said:

Problem with to long CD on Pb’s with frontline mechanic is, we might end up with many nations locked out of RvR.

Right now RvR is in High gear. But doubt it will keep going like that. Ask me what should be done for small nations. Lets them have a safe place. Like be able to craft 40 point ships in capitol, and get all ressources. But on the other hand, then the Big nation can’t really win.

But so far the Big nations have showen restraint. You vs GB. The minut they stop fighting, you let them keep the most important ports. Russia vs Spain the same.

Think DK is bit different. We get hit by the Big hammer. But lets be honnest, we derserve it. No complaint there. 

Polish, not really sure why they haven’t been allowed a small spot.

Yeah that is also a bit frustrating in that at so many point in the last 2 year, nations have had to show restraint. The polish being one case (I know they have no ports currently) but I remember cases of stopping almost out of pitty due to their non RvR players and ensuring they keep at port. Same with GB recently. 
 

Some ability to “Win” without completely no ports someone would be beneficial. 

Like you said with GB, we stopped but there was nothing enforcing us to do so and Danes or example, we do that we do to give ourselves port buffers for future multiflips as we have no choice. But there are Danes who are punished severely and who shortly won’t be able to craft full stop. Some level of diplomacy/endgame mechanic would be very welcome. As at this point, short of bullying people out of the game there is little else nations can do. Which is kinda shit.  

[Fresh RVR History (from 06-2019)]

6 minutes ago, Staunberg🇩🇰 said:

Great to see Spain in RvR. Tho you chose the wrong side.

Danes have 2 safe ports. Thats enough. We don't need to be relocated. We are fine where we are. We get what we get by fighting over it. Plain and simple.

If this war eventually ends and content drops, we proberly find a small port(5700 BR), near a fp where we can have friendly Pb’s.

But for now think the game is at is best version, in the time I have played. Devs build in enough mechanic, so even a small nation like DK-NG can play and have fun. Time where we would worry over losing pop should is over.

I largely agree regarding the state of the game, although I think particularly for smaller nations, a mechanic to make RvR less time consuming would be beneficial. Like our war V GB just became a steam roll as not only could they not win in the port battles, but we set a new one every 24 hours.
 

I think the game needs a genuine review of the hostility setting mechanics. Russia and Sweden get by (although I know both sides of the fence get bored every now and again) but pretty much every other nation is not capable of the sort of RvR schedule that this game requires. Not sure it’s really healthy for a game to require you to have 50+ active people or no job in order to win.