Liam790

How so, HRE is not my clan, even if it was i dont have to agree with it. And i clearly phrased it as "I think this should be changed". Not everything any 1 player does is representative of the nation.... So thanks for your input.

In the interest of making some rules against this, I want to draw your attention to Knuddel here for joining a hostility mission in a basic cutter and immediately surrendering it to force us to sit in the now empty hostility mission for 45 minutes. Firstly why are basic cutters even able to join? Why does surrendering 1 ship of effectively zero BR still force the 45 minutes rather than 15? If you can join and fight reasonably, sure come on in! That is the fun part of the game so if we have to wait 10 minutes for a fight so be it. But no one else joined at any time and i struggle to believe that Knuddel, the sort of the guy he is, was doing this for any other reason but to waste peoples time for the sake of doing so. See below the screenshots (i couldn't have the tab screen aswell as having the battle timer at the same time, so see both screenshots 1 & 2 below). You can clearly see he joined immediately and then left. There is also no valid argument of him wanting to see what we had in our fleet as he saw us sail into the bay while he hid under the fort. This was done for one reason only and it should not be able to occur. You can also see the third screenshot after 45 minutes... all those Russian ships he was keeping the battle open for! Ow wait... https://prnt.sc/u7v5fs https://prnt.sc/u7v66e https://prnt.sc/u7vjjo I think going forward everyone would appreciate some mechanic changes to stop such abuse. Maybe a BR requirement? Even 20% of attackers BR would mean something of note would have to be bought and stop the ability to just screw with people. Regards

Enjoy the zone

I like Sweden, pretty sure most intend to stick around. GG Though, shame it couldnt continue but for now, i go to sleep.

All virgin island ports will be returned to Danes. Peurto Rico is up to russia what they do with it.

Just so everyone is aware, Sweden has pulled out from this war. Many thanks to everyone on both sides who put the time in to make this an interesting (Even if sometimes salty) war. Spain in particular, best allies you can ask for - Highly recommended! Unfortunately the time commitment to this game, particularly on the RvR side, has finally taken its toll and so before to much damage is done to our homeland we are calling it a day. A deal is hopefully being concluded to bring this to a somewhat civil end and allow all sides to continue playing the game. Well done Russia, its been a long fight but you got there in the end Try not to cap to many of our traders as we leave San Juan!! See everyone in the PZ

So by that definition everyone is dodging with day timers as no one can defend all day time timers. We have had more than 2/3 of our timers in day time at all times. We just keep a special few for the danes and 2/3 for the russians otherwise you all get to carried away with PvE. We also defended the majority of our night timers the other day. The fact we didnt win is immiterial. We filled most and left 1. The same as we would do in a daytime multiflip.

See largely speaking i actully agree with you. I dont like what this game has become. But admin and ink have made previous rulings and this is in line with game rules. Trust me, i am more than happy to see them ban this sort of stuff, but it has to be consistent and they let everyone know when the rules change.

Will be interesting how this one turns out. Given we also have a recording of North Viking and Co doing the exact same thing at El Cuyo less than a week ago. We are merely fighting fire with fire. Also stop being a big baby. It was 10-15 minutes max. North Vikings was well over half an hour

Ow believe me, i want a decision on "griefing" as much as anyone. However as a server up until now the consensus has been if its RvR related, tough luck. Dont try to claim you were sat in the join circle of a Russian PB but wernt going to join and just wanted to "go to tombado". Thats BS and we all know it. This "Griefing" isnt new. If a decision is made to remove it im all for it, but based on previous cases, this is completely within the rules. Edit - I even posted in this forum this week asking for a decision on RvR griefing. It didnt come, so this Swedish player is fine for now. Change the rules by all means but this tribunal is going nowhere.

To give context. This was screening for the port battle at Mugeres. This poor Swede just did his part for that nation. This is not tribunal worthy. If this is punished then the inconsistency in decisions i laughable.

@admin @Ink it would be nice to have a bit of a ruling here, even if not clear cut, but at least to see how you view it. we know each case it different etc etc but knowing what your general view on when griefing is griefing even in “RvR”. As I for example know I can’t leave port currently within 3/4 hours of a PB unless I am willing to surrender the ship I am sailing as the moment a Russian or Dane sees me, even if they can’t kill me I’m in for hours or endless tagging purely so I can’t get to the Pb.

😂😂😂😂😂😂 how much money do people think we put into this game.

Well I was just giving a realistic assessment of RvR. Sweden will be fine, as probably will russia. It’s you guys that will suffer. I’m just acknowledging that and saying maybe something needs to change. Not sure the hostility is nessassary

Yeah that is also a bit frustrating in that at so many point in the last 2 year, nations have had to show restraint. The polish being one case (I know they have no ports currently) but I remember cases of stopping almost out of pitty due to their non RvR players and ensuring they keep at port. Same with GB recently. Some ability to “Win” without completely no ports someone would be beneficial. Like you said with GB, we stopped but there was nothing enforcing us to do so and Danes or example, we do that we do to give ourselves port buffers for future multiflips as we have no choice. But there are Danes who are punished severely and who shortly won’t be able to craft full stop. Some level of diplomacy/endgame mechanic would be very welcome. As at this point, short of bullying people out of the game there is little else nations can do. Which is kinda shit.

I largely agree regarding the state of the game, although I think particularly for smaller nations, a mechanic to make RvR less time consuming would be beneficial. Like our war V GB just became a steam roll as not only could they not win in the port battles, but we set a new one every 24 hours. I think the game needs a genuine review of the hostility setting mechanics. Russia and Sweden get by (although I know both sides of the fence get bored every now and again) but pretty much every other nation is not capable of the sort of RvR schedule that this game requires. Not sure it’s really healthy for a game to require you to have 50+ active people or no job in order to win.