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So we just all should be yes ppl. No not stay true to what er belive?

Oh I do and so do most. Ppl dont complaint about this wipe, but about xp wiped at realase. But you are right. You said I know nothing, you know all. Just for the record. I complain abouth @admin broken promise. I give a shit about materiale wipe. We all know that would happend.

I have 40 shops now. Will go long time before I need to Trade ore craft. So long time before I’ll be afffected. So test Will not show the right picture.

So ok to keep garanty something repeately. Say the are not that kind of developers that go back on there words. Ppl actually bought games on there promis. But tjeck on thats ok. Then I know that what we can expect. Ppl are not complaining abouth the wipe of ressources. But plz enlighten me on the wipe of rank will have a great impact on testing trading and crafting. whinners always nice when ppl think name calling lift Them High above the rest.

Proberbly not. But should you go back on your word. Maybe not pretend that you can do as you please. Maybe show a bit remorse and not edit post left and right. Ban hammer have been busy to Day. So now ppl insted have to put there feedback on steam. I actially just finished takling to a guy that Will try to get a refund trough steam, since he think they sold him a falls product. Yep some Will take a break. No problem with that.

They have changed the the conditions on witch ppl have bought the dlc. Plain and simple. You see, they have in plenty post. Actually in post after post after post told ppl what to expect. That they put an disclamer on the front, dosen't actually change that. If I in my contry buy a car. The dealer can actually not write that no condintions count. Even it it is in the contract. There is some basic things he actually have to uphold. Thats the law view. But from a moral stand I actually can't see how they feel, they are in the right.

And that why they ofc offer all that want it the posibillity to get a refund.

And will you have the same fun doing it over again?

Well where I come from a man stand by his word. @admin have again and again said what will happend. Ppl have spend money on the game and dlc. They have spend time on what he have promished. He know it is bad, so he promished a ship, that he already have promished. Well hurra. A shitty ship in compensation that we already was promished because of the testing.' You mock ppl for expecting him to stand by his word. Really? But as long you got what you wanted all is fine. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Guess we just are different ppl. I let my moral compas point north. The game will most likely not gain any more players on that dessision, New will come, old inactive will proberbly not return.

So all goes. Xp, crafting, books ship knowledge at release Day.

Oh hadn't seen you mention me. Not sure where I come in. I don't care for RvR, so why should I care for witch nations that are in the game, and witch is close to Christiansted. It has little relevans for me. As long there just is some enemy close, so I have Ai's to kill in the capitol zone. But plz enlighten me how you come to the conslussion, that just because some hardcore nations are close to danish wathers, I should prefere that they is in the game.

Well don't think there is just one reason why players don't do PvP. Personally I think each person has his own reason. Most of it had already been mentioned. for some it is: - Ships are to expensive. - The skill gab is to big. - The reward is to low. - Some just hasen't the time for a full combat. - Some is more interested in crafting ore trading. - The risk of gank/revenge/defence fleet. -Reinforcement zone For me personally it was demasting that made me lose my interest in most OW PvP and reinforcement zone(went though to most PvP zones)and Patch 27 with Dbl made me quiet RvR and all other Patrole zones than Nassau.(Nothing to do with Dlc ship, as I try to get ship knowledge on Surprice and Niagera). Not sure that the new damage model will change it.

Ofc I wasent there. You are my friend. I would never put you In a position, where you have to kill me. Plus I never leave the safty of Christiansted.

Ofc they didn't attack you, They where just out to find some AI's to kill. Must have been a mistake if they tagged a dutch player.

PvE players would be restrictet to a very small area of the map. - where do they her ressources for crafting/trading? - travel to a seal bottle/lost fleet. - Epic missions. PvP will still be forced upon them ore there game would be strongly reduced. You have some good Idea, like the arena and maybe traning PB. Put that on the PvE server and I think they Will get lot more players, maybe unfortannaly on the cost of war server

Most of the points you have listed, have been discussed over and over again the last Month. But would be interesting if you went trough your own points and Tell why you Think it would give a better game.

Why should PvE players be forced to PvP. Traders is needed for crafting. Force Them to PvP Will just make Them quiet. PvP problem should not tryied to be solved by sacrificing the PvE players.

Have devs actually said what would happens with those zones? Do think it is right to remove them. Why should only a few nations benefit from them. Because they are easy nations?Most ppl that start in the game don’t look at that. I started in the danish nation because I am dane, pretty sure most start in there real life nation if it is in the game. If you want a PvE area for the casual should they not be neutral to benefit all? Ore only casuals in the easy nation should have a right to a PvE area?

Witch Havoc are we talking about. The Dutch ore the British. As I remember the Dutch Havoc, that after taking Fajardo, Passaje and Viques from the danes, the Dutch Havoc had a couple of fights that could be consider against Swedish interest. Just from too if my head. - Screened for Prussia at there first atempt at Samana. - Attacked several Cabal ports near Dutch wathers -Failed attacks on Carthagena - Multi flipped Sweden. The one where Prussia got Samana, Think Sweden also that Night lost 2 more ports. - The danish was offered a peace if we stopped supporting the swedish agsinst you. Oure negotiator was kicked from the Dutch.ts, for be unresonable in oure demands for peace. GB Havoc, think ppl still have it fresh in menory. But no doubt about you know more abouth Havoc history than me. So when you say Havoc never went for Sweden, it must be the truth. But my answer you quote is not about Havoc, so not sure where that got relevant? It was abouth the general impression I have had with the Swedish Are you telling me that Havoc has turned swedish, otherwise I see litle relevans.

He is not trolling me. All I said was that I hoped some of Swedens best RvR player would get back in the game, even if they where in another nation. They set the standard at the time. Yes rediii made him self a name at that time. But the time after has also showen how much was given by having the best players on your team. My statement had nothing to do with him. All I said is there right now only are 2 RvR nations in the game, and I hoped to see some of the best RvR players I have seen come back to the game.

Think it is a hard question to answer. What makes ports valuable again. Do think devs are going to restrict the ressources in a port to the portowner. If they make valuable ressources only fall in very limited numbers of ports, should make Those port valuable. Think they should make VM char bound. Remove the ship buying from dbl and notes. Think ports would be more valuable. Let every port give a VM, But increase the cost of VM in SoL, maybe by 5 times. Downside by giving all to the Victor, might be the rest just give up. But ports would have value.

Think if you take a look at your rosters in the last battles and compare them with the time when Rediii was swedish and short after in his dutch days, you will see some different names I think, not talking abouth those that joined rediii in VP. You say it your self. “Few capable captains”. But think Sweden still is in the top. Guess depends how you want to slice the cake 3-5. That dosent mean the swedish captains have done a bad job, just that some is better now. Imo there is only 2 RvR nations left. The rest mainly defend when attacked, if they even show of. Ore they do some semi casual RvR. You know a pb from time to time.

Guess we are on the same page then. I lose ships on a regualary base. When Nassau in on, I loose about 8-10 ships. My trader, Well they Seem safe enough. Rarely lose one. Big ships, Well Ai’s is more deadly then players.

Well all I can say is in the time I played and cared abouth RvR, the swedish have been fine. We had a small incident with @rediii at a French port. But that was resolved by the swedish captains graciesly lost a lot of 1 rates in OW to us at Gustavia for a couple of weeks. But better we have ppl doing RvR in a few nation that none does it at all.

Why should ppl leave because of that?. They want RvR, Well it comes to them. They want PvP, Well same case. They want to PvE. Look at the map. Plenty of room. When I enjoy my morning coffe with some PvE, Well then I play at a nice and quiet place.