TsunamiEmperor

If you honestly can't connect dots together then I don't know how to help you man, I'm not even sure what you're asking/trying to get at with your question.

It's not about what is right and wrong, the AUSEZ can section themselves off somewhere remote on the map and call it their homeland and set timers however they want, the problem is you use this tactics throughout the vast majority of your nation. It has been made clear that the AUSEZ clan does not make up 80%~ of your faction's population, the amount of ports that have gone undefended at the times these ports are set is evidence of this. What your nation is doing is degrading the game's fun because you take this game far too seriously, you're afraid of losing ports so you set timers at times you know you are the least likely to have to defend these ports. You can point the finger at others all you like, but it's not hypocritical one bit for people to put timers on places where they can actually muster a defense at that time, especially when you have a bigger nation next-door who has been doing it for far longer than any of the nations you've listed. "In fact, France is the one and only nation not using this right now but this is not the point. The point is:" And yet you had no hesitation putting unfair timers against them whilst zerging them down, that's the point you people keep trying to elude, but then ask why so many people are against you on the map? It's behavior like this that has left a bitter taste in their mouths towards your faction, the devs and the game as whole, and is leading to people just straight leaving the game in a trickle from how boring you've made it for everyone else who wants to engage in the conquest side of the game. Until the devs address this problem, it's our responsibility as a part of this community to make the game as fun for everyone as possible, and not be so butt-hurt about losing ports as to resort to manipulating mechanics in this fashion. Edit: When the Americans came for the Bahamas, they caught us with our pants down in the initial first days, the following days rallied our nation to go up and not only defend the Bahamas at the time we set for those ports and stop the assault successfully, but also reconquer it and push even further north. The difference between our setting of timers and yours is that ours are actually representative of our capacity to defend, and as far as I know the timers up there haven't changed since that initial offensive. Meanwhile, after Cuba was retaken with timers set at 04-06, your timers since then have shifted a number of times with the clear intent to find the best time period to deny attacks outright with no effort.

Context doesn't exist in the British nation, only propaganda and deflection.

You butchered the timeline so badly I'm actually astonished reading what you just wrote, how desperately your nation wants to twist history just to appear like the good guys to who? Who do you think is reading this other than a British player and says to himself, "wow, I must have been dreaming the last 3 weeks of my life while playing this game". Hilarious.

What's funny is this is what their timers used to look like before the night-crew of the pirates/nationals staying up really late started punishing these timers. I don't know who they're trying to kid really, at one point their Yucatan holdings were 18-20, then all of a sudden when the French started pushing up the Panama with the Spanish making gains shortly after that, they go 10-12 like magic. http://imgur.com/a/NXvbY

Fuking stawman bruh, nobody is on a pedestal about BigValco working for the Brits being morally wrong or just plain not okay, check the thread you're in before you start up a totally different conversation. We're just having a laugh at such an absurd turn of events, and how desperately the British are trying to gain ground to the point that they're employing and arming a clan of pirates who were given every possible advantage in a battle, and still ballsed it up horribly.

Queen Valco returning to the SLRN estate in Port Royal.

Those ports were definitely not gifted... the first attempt on Matanzas was definitely met with resistance, beyond that required the Spanish to be up very late to recover those ports, many ports of which were retaken during a large offensive during 04-06. What is happening in Mexico is a completely separate thing to what the rest of the U.S. faction is currently undertaking.

A deal was struck among your fellow Spanish comrades with the pirates, many of them happily obliged and sympathized with your cause, and so the deal was made and a section of our manpower was given over to them to aid in the goals we set out for the Spanish homeland to better deal with the port timers they set against your nation and ours. We're very proud of what you have done in that Santa Fe bay, brave men of Spain, continue to fight strongly and proudly to ensure your security and prosperity in Cuba and wherever else you may wander. Those of us who departed for the eastern front, did so for this very purpose, and the pirate coalition we serve under has been honorable and understanding throughout this whole endeavor. Our pledge to you does not end with Cuba, those of us who were once Spanish will always be willing to lend a hand to you in times of need. Congratulations on your recovery, keep it up and do not allow the mistakes of the past to resurface again, stay the course.

Nice word twist there buddy, glad to know there are so many well informed people in your faction with little comments like this being of plentiful supply.

"How the hell are we meant to know the inter clan nation diplomacy of a nation?" You talk to them, I told you this from the beginning of our interactions on the forums, if you want confirmation you could come into our TS and speak to the leaders of all the clans we represented. It's so simple I don't even know how to explain it in simpler terms, your people were already in contact with us, all you had to do was CONFIRM the legitimacy of who you were talking to if you were unsure. You NEGLECTED the majority of the faction to speak to one self-proclaimed diplomat of a tiny community within the faction, when you had FULL access to the rest of our faction via myself and the TS you frequented to speak to us. Your compatriots failed to tell you of what was going in RAE to solve the problem, the initial people Gaizka and I spoke to initially(Pam and Caldwell), and you talk to us about unity, how inaccessible we are? This is what I mean with talking in circles with you people, it's never ending, and then you tell me you can't be bothered to repeat yourself? Then don't, if you can't comprehend the most basic of concepts when dealing with nations, then just don't bother trying to interact with the surrounding factions. Just don't try and take this moral high ground on the forums, no one is buying it, and it's responses like this that don't help your faction's image. Agreed, I don't even know why they're trying at this point to convince Spain to accept defeat, it's just the same tune as always and no one is bending over to it.

According to who? Where were these council members in any war we've ever been involved in? You took the word of an individual who has made wild claims that I have yet to see materialize in reality, where were they in the defense of Mexico? You people were duped by him, and you capitalized on it, I guess if some random person comes up to you claiming to be the President of the United States you'll believe them solely on the merit of their words, right? No double checking with anyone, no peer reviews of his standing as a diplomat and who exactly he represents? You can't sit and claim that we're not united to cover up your factions own incompetence in this matter, I'm sorry, it's not going to go unchallenged by me. We had the voices of every prominent clan within the faction heard by us, the people who mattered in the faction, the ones who have been fighting from the beginning in great numbers, the ones intercepting your fleets as we speak. You have no idea what unity is if you think Spain isn't unified, Spain was in the best position it's ever been for unity, and your faction has done nothing but attempt to stamp that out with how you've dealt with us thus far. The situation with Danes is not that different at all, it shows the degree in which your faction fails in diplomacy, even once enemies can reconcile ports more effectively and fairly than your faction can with people it considered "natural allies". Taking two ports near the capital as victors should show you the level of ridiculousness in your claim to hold the entire southern part of Cuba from people you are supposed to be friends with, in exchange for ports you were supposed to give back no string attached(minus the gold costs). "With Britain and Spain. In the British view they would make a deal with RAE (and as you stated stuff went south in south cuba), Then make a deal with what is though and told to be a representative of all the other spanish clans except from RAE, and then we are attack by RACC and EI. At this point we simply found it impossible to make any long lasting deal with spain, If we make a deal with one set of clans, the other want something else, and vice versa its like dealing with two different nations in the same nation." This paragraph... The unity that was achieved included RAE, RACC and EI, and a number of other clans who joined combat whenever they were needed, we by no means achieved what we achieved in order to kill another clan. We did what we did to achieve a balanced unity among the faction, this was fully ratified a week from my first encounter with your diplomats, and went into effect the same night it was discussed. Rather than be a constructive force in this whole process, your faction chose to pound it's chest and then combo into extremely poor diplomatic conduct with us. So, so be it. Again, told he was a diplomat for the whole faction by who, the person making the claim for himself? You double checked his prominence as a diplomat with no one of relevance in our talks, that is your fault, not ours. Competence, competence, competence, your side is lacking this throughout. Honestly, do you even know the clans he represented by tags at the very least other than the clan he was in? What have they done of note for the faction? How can you honestly be expected to be taken seriously in diplomacy when you just take people at their word and don't do even the most basic research on them what so ever?

The problem is your diplomats followed up only with Gaizka, and not myself, which is interesting considering the main situation that surrounded the whole situation had more to do with myself and RAE than it did with Gaizka. Yet, in their infinite wisdom, they chose to neglect the solutions put forward and react as they did, and now we are here. Coming to the table asking for 16 ports you took unjustly/mistakenly/failed to return as per previous agreements is by no means unreasonable, your factions capitalized one one mistake after another, and for some reason insist that returning ports you just annexed recently was too much for your faction to bare. So again, we are here. I'm pretty certain the majority of the corsairs that came with us to pirates are mainly RACC, a large contingency stayed to defend Spain while we coalesced with a faction that we could fill the gaps in soundly to help achieve our long-term goals alongside the pirates. Our worldviews are at odds with each other, that is the problem here, you cannot reconcile things that I consider common sense for one nation to do for another they are on good terms with. We handle problems and crises differently, and by these revelations it's pretty clear our factions are not natural allies, and so it was made very clear that we would be at war for a very long time. That is why I went pirate, because the timers you set prevent Spain from launching effective counter-attacks, but as a pirate, your timers cannot hide you from us. Your faction should take a lesson on interrelations from the Danes, and how they treated the French after they achieved victory, far better than you treated your once allies in this entire issue. So yes, we will fight on, and your faction will either be at odds with it's decisions for the rest of time, or they will take the time to reflect on how they deal with other factions and have the self-awareness to witness the result up to this point.

I know I am, I've been on the frontier of this debacle since it happened, we came up with a solid solution and wouldn't have had any issue with you retaking the ports. This spun out of control because your diplomats have absolutely no clue what they're doing, and how to proceed in minor crisis' like this. What should've been a simple "sorry it was a mistake, the person responsible for it has been dealt with, you can have the ports back if you want", turned into failure after failure on the part of the British delegates. Taking everything west of Cochinos was inexcusable and far too harmful to Spain's industry, and the amount of difficulty I encountered while trying to recover it through diplomatic talks simply revealed the nature of your leaders. They have put Spain in a position where we can never trust them again, because they've shown us what they do with power and agreements. Nothing was honored by Britain from start to finish, the ports your faction were asked to assist us in returning were used against us as forward operating bases in the conflict that ensued. Meanwhile we made a symbolic stand at Siguanea, knowing full well that you were going to flip the ports in the Yucatan the next day, we made it clear we were not on-board with the deal you made behind closed doors with another party to give away southern Cuba for it. Rather than wait for you to flip the ports and then back stab you after that, we chose to be honorable and make a clear and harmless statement at Siguenea. To help you understand the foolishness of the deal that was made with the other party in Spain, and how many people it did not represent in the faction. This apparently went unnoticed, and we were punished for this honorable conduct. Failure to follow up on the solution, and failure to respect the borders of an entire nation over the actions of a single individual, Britain has no right to impose it's will on Spain over such failures like this and I will not stop fighting among the corsairs for as long as the British insist on bringing Spain to heel and wrestling ports that rightfully belong to them. I don't mean you're all scared as a general statement, there are definitely many among you that don't like the multiple fronts open everywhere, and the losses of ports in places far too close to home. I'm sure there are other people who feel as you do within the faction, that would rather see a constructive end to things, but what I experienced with your leadership tells me that's not going to happen among the higher ups anytime soon. The ports that were put into question should have been returned to Spain as a common sense measure to maintain peace at the bare minimum, they refused this notion as too catastrophic for their nation's morale and self-image. I will return to Spain one day, but for now I have goals and oaths to fulfill between both Spain, and the pirates as they have been honorable partners in this entire endeavor to whom I owe much gratitude. When your empire is sufficiently crippled enough to where I feel that Spain can once again function as a sovereign nation with secure borders, that's when this will end, until then the fight continues for us who have departed to the eastern front.

Where exactly do I speak for Spain in this thread? I'd love to see the quote, or is this just your little tidbit of appeasement to Caldwell's new salty narrative to try and drive a wedge between the new Spanish corsairs and their homeland? It's pretty easy to see through all these manipulative attempts on the forums, please try harder.