Potemkin

Why not just apply any and all pirate "nerfs" to a separate server that opens at the next major wipe. All xp stays the same and everything else will get wiped anyways. The pirates can keep pvp1, while everyone who doesn't want to play with a pirate zerg can move to the new mirror and start again as if nothing happened, and be at the same exact spot they would have been in had they stayed. The nerfed pirate server would foster a more realistic historical nation vs nation environment, and any pirates that came over that new server would have no basis to complain about the changes to pirate mechanics. Note: im sure theres a million reasons why this wont happen, i just thought id throw it out there.

I watched olav deng's review on the essex like 10 mins after posting that lol, he mentioned that it is technically the same model, my bad on the double post, was using my phone.

How bout the Acheron too while we're at it:)

How bout the Acheron too while we're at it.

What happens when KOTO forms Prussia and starts eating? J/k i love EU4, and i think this idea needs some more pirate input (idk what you are in-game). Any discussion on changing pirate mechanics should heavily include pirate nation members, not just salty national players with pre-conceived biases (again not talking about you or anyone in particular). Just seems like more progress would made that way. I do like the idea,though I'm not a pirate myself.

There are options up there that let you vote to keep things the way they are as of right now...

When will you be organizing another, i always seem to miss them

+1 for the lighthouse idea, but maybe only for regional capitals and nation capitals, cookie cutter lighthouses in every port seems somewhat repetitive. Might be able to make nation specific designs for them. Either way its more of a cosmetic change, i wouldn't expect any action on it for awhile.

Im probably an extreme minority here, but i haven't heard a word of english in voice chat or seen any in battle chat during major engagements in months and i don't speak spanish. I don't mind as its fairly easy to see and react to whats happening around me, but waay down the road it may not be a bad idea. At the very least it would give a player some idea of who to follow and potentially what tack to sustain if that player does not speak the language. Its not something i would expect in the near future.

I wonder how many more pages this ones going to last before it gets locked, over/under is 4. Im going with the under.

So my entire argument is invalid because of blockaders and a few people in cutters. Right, great talk. There are crafters here and they are doing what they can. I was merely saying that a member of a zerg nation advocating removing 3rds when they have the means to equip their players with better ships is assenine and wont happen anytime soon.

I cant speak for all of us really but from what ive experienced, this game is alot more fun when you play it the way you want, even if that means dicking around in smaller ships and not desperately trying to keep up with bigger powers in terms of crafting, organization etc. Not all of us can sink serious hours into this game. Im not going to change your opinion just like you wont change mine. Agreed to disagree.

All i meant by that was that even if GB and Spain had the same percentage of people crafting, you would have more output in the long run. 15-20% of 800 is alot more than 15-20% of 300. Fyi im just making up numbers here as far as population and percentage of crafters. On top of that when we lost high level crafters from RACC and RAE we lost BPs as well. Maybe you have a clearer picture of whats going on in spain then i do lol. Im not opposed to limiting capped 3rds down the road but as of right now im saying we dont have anything we can replace them with. I mean, vote for by all means if you want us defending ports with frigates and a few player capped SoLs. Edit: no one is asking for handouts or pity but dont advocate taking away our only CURRENT sustainable means of self defense.

Completely agree.

All im going to say is i agree with alot of whats been said here, but self appointed "leaders" trying to change all this will only cause more hardcore trolling. One way or another change needs to begin with the average player. How you do that, i dont know. There will always be trolls, the key is keeping them a Frowned upon minority in the eyes of the player majority.

Taking away capped 3rd rates will make smaller nations utterly unable to defend themselves against more populated nations. Its already a joke fighting against the english muzzle to muzzle, fun yes, but alot of the battles are over before they begin due to the sheer firepower England's crafting population can pump out on a given day. PvP1 spain is fighting fleets composed of 5-6 1st rates pavels and bellonas with a handful of pavels and capped 3rds. Many of our high level crafters defected. I understand there may be alternatives down the road but why do you want to make the national firepower gap even larger than it already is. This would only bolster the ranks of the pirates because people tend to want to have a fighting chance in large scale, organized combat. Suicidal defense in depth will only work if you can get enough players to an area in a small time window, this is why it worked around corrientes for the spanish and it was our only option because if you were allowed to open the PB you would have just won on BR and left.

I can def get u a graphics card, i may be able to cannibalize a few more components. Consider it a gift from the naval action community, we appreciate the diplo thread. Ill pm you soon, im working for the next 6 days but i can get things moving quickly once im off for a few.

Let me see what i can dig up, gimme a couple days, Stand by.

Would be entertaining to me but someone would get butthurt and it would probly just become another 14 page flame war. They just closed the france v britian thread, and alll that salt is gonna spill over somewhere. Honestly I'm surprised this ones lasted so long.

Bram what do you need, i can get a few different graphics cards cheap. I.E. I can hook u up with one for free i don't mind taking the hit.

Before the reset we should pick an area of the map and let all nations (who want to) establish a deep water base close to a central location and have constant OW pvp just for shits n giggles.

RELIC group from WoT?

He made a whole new thread for you Jager, lmao

Sloth you can change mechanics all you want but at the end of the day its the individual players who decide how to utilize those mechanics. No one can be forced to play the game one way or another.

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