Potemkin

Oh how the tables have turned...

"We will welcome to our numbers the loyal, true and brave, Shouting the battle cry of freedom! And although he may be poor, he shall never be a slave, Shouting the battle cry of freedom!"

What happened bud? I thought you guys were gonna make global great again?

Honestly, i kinda miss the lord protector system. It had serious flaws but its redeeming feature was that it allowed the defender to pick a time when they could field the most players to defend instead of having the attacker being able to choose. If you set your timers to absurd times, you lost the port to a handful of people. I think we're all aware by now that players will utilize any advantage the game offers. The problem i keep seeing is a tug and pull between giving players more freedom and more oversight from devs regarding rvr, its why we will have two pvp servers which im pretty sad to see. Bottom line is i think the conquest system, being the very foundation for rvr, should have the current owner pick the time when it feels it can best defend not the attacker choosing the time when it feels it will have the best chance to win. If you honestly think theres a solution thats all rainbows and unicorns that makes everyone happy then idk what to tell other than pass the bowl. This problem can only be solved by picking the lesser of however many evils we have or will come up with.

So just for clarification (haven't been following the situation too closely due to steel division), the xp you redeem on the test server is separate from what you redeem after the wipe or not? Plus which server will be converted to global?

All i know for sure is that someone needs to continue the Patrick Obrien series. Black Sails was corny asf, with some decent titties here and there. I jumped into the series at season three so the last episode was just confirmation of a cookie cutter feel good lets make everyone happy high budget turd. But thats just my take, ill take realism and plots grounded in fact over fantasy pirates any day. Especially when it comes to the age of sail. But hey when everything goes to shit, just call the Spanish in to bust some skulls:)

Ive always been against any split of the NA pop with it being as low as it is now. While i understand why this is happening i cant agree to it. For me a huge part of this game was having a true enemy to fight. Victories against fleets you despise and seeing those people rage (whether you approve of the shit talk or not) is so much more satisfying long term than playing against friends. But thats just me.

I remember that, props dude.

I was actually looking at that earlier in my shift. I might try it, been playing wargame for years now.

Hey, if its not too much trouble ill donate my prize/choice thereof to the next person on the list who missed out on prizes. If not that ill nab that 5000 coal.

Trying to limit screening will only throw a wrench into any potential agreement and cause contention and finger pointing. How would you tell people not to? At this point its a well known source of fun pvp for those who aren't included in any given PB for both sides. I understand why you want to include it but i dont think that one is remotely within anyones control.

Yeah i remember the US did that to Spain a few weeks after hostilities started way back in early EA. 11pm-1am pb timers EST, idk offhand what time it was for the actual Spanish players, and we got nothing but shit when people called em out for it. If you think this is going to end any other way than solid game mechanics then i want what you're smokin. Its been shown a million times over over that players in this game cannot solve this issue on their own. If you wanna look like a "good guy" then by all means try to find common ground and a solution, i honestly hope you succeed.

Hell yeah man

Seems like the situation is already shit or hadnt you noticed. The bullshit has been flying since feb of last year and probably before that in some aspects, and grats now youve gotten it to stick. I think everyone on the fvcking server knows something about nightflipping by now so you can go hello kitty yourself if you think you can tell people they dont know what theyre talking about. You got yourselves locked out of rvr stop acting like a bitch.

Idk why your even bothering man, they have had this coming for a long time now. Its kinda funny how the only times i remember playing this game without any nightflips was when LV wrecked them twice and the aftermath when they just gave up on rvr and ratted out of freeports. The writing is and has been on the wall, you guys should have listened awhile ago but the above quote is exactly accurate. You didnt give a shit before why should anyone give a shit now?

So these two servers will just have different pb timers? US players will still be able to play on the EU server? (Assuming this gets implemented) Ive never had any issues with the EU timezone at all in the East Coast USA time zone. I missed battles when im working for sure but it never made the game unplayable by any means.

Moral high ground doesnt exist in nn.

Ive said this before, its not that these communities discourage english speakers from joining, actually from what ive seen playing for Spain its the opposite. Of course every nation has it's dickwads here and there. The biggest hurdle is that you need to have organized groups of english speakers join all at once so you have an established community within a community. Joining a non english speaking nation by yourself makes everything from combat coordination to trading/crafting harder because there is little/no COMMUNICATION or networking. In many ways it makes the game less fun when you have to run everything through google translate. There are always people around who can speak english but they arent always there and they're not supermen who can do/say many things at once. Its not that these in game nations are xenophobic thats just a retarded underhanded slap in the face. The main reason is that a new player already has a hard enough time trying to learn the game itself without having to translate a foriegn language. Most just take one look at nation chat, see gibberish, and think "well, screw this" and go to GB or US. The lack of active english clans with enough members in these other nations only compounds the problem and causes them to switch nations quicker, and they have every right to do so. There is no easy solution to this problem. And btw does it autocorrect f##k to hello kitty now or did my coworkers pull a fast one on me?

Spot on.

Honestly nations being able to set their own timers was a better option imho than effectively having the enemy choose the time of attack. Both systems are obviously open to abuse but at least the old lord protector system gave the defender the option to set a defense at a time when its player base was prepared to meet the challenge. Maybe change it so once once nation a attacks nation b, no other nation can attack nation b for 2-3 hours (giving them time to finish the first battle without having to worry about false, or multiple attacks). This might also help to concentrate players in that one area leading to more pvp both in screening fleet skirmishes and the pb itself. Combine that with the current heat up system with its 3 day (or possibly much less) warning time to prep for the battle and position ships accordingly. The old system was adeptly used by GB (correct me if im wrong) to cordon off region defense for ppl in different timezones so one group didnt have to defend around the clock. I realize this idea will probably get ripped to pieces here but honestly what we have now is clearly not working. On the flipside we dont know how this system would fare with a large game pop, but whether or not we get back to full servers remains to be seen.

Hear ye hear ye #makesmallbattlesgreatagain That is all.

Honestly i couldnt care less about rvr, at this point we're all just running in circles. Though the forum wars are a good source of entertainment at work.

Now thats a victory march. But seriously though, whats stopping DN and the others from just popping PBs nonstop mid week in the mid am US central time. Seems like the tone has been set with this thread.

I joined the brits but im willing to switch at any time, and oddly i didnt encounter the crash bug yet after 4-5 fleet missions yesterday. I think its a good idea to collaborate to see the results of pvp. Let me know what i can do to help. Seems like a set time(s) for large battles would be a good place to start.

Not much anyone can do about it when its the player's own choice. It sucks but its going to happen and has been happening and will continue to do so untill there are only a few playable nations and when that happens there wont be too many people left to gloat to.