Sir Texas Sir

For pirates I would like that type of raid, but pirates are not going to get any mechanic changes for some time. What we been told it prob won't even be until after release that they might change pirates, but for hell won't be any time soon so folks need to live with the fact that Pirates are just another nation.

That why I suggested doing something like 12 vs 12 (15 vs 15 would work but groups are 12 right now) and doing them like the old flag system with tweeks. Make it one control circle Tower you have to capture and than if you win it puts 20-25% agro on that region. SO you can do 4 raids to flip a Region instead of grinding up AI ships. If they want to show and stop you they have the 2 hour window to stop the fleet and flag carrier from being dropped at that port. You can bring more ships than the 12 for the raid, but I would say keep them small and simple. Like only one captured tower/circles not three. So it's more about the battle to control that one circle and winner is either by control points or BR points from kills.

From experience? When exactly have you joined one at a port battle? I been in almost every port battle we have had and I haven't seen your name on any of the screen shots of the ones I didn't make it. We have only used the Pirate vs Pirate battle to stage for one contested port battle. PnP the second time around. The first time we used an AI fleet. Both times we still got screened and seperated so not every one made it in. So that isn't a full proof means to get your fleet in. Hell I spent the whole Savanna fight in two fights out side the port and never made it nside with my Vict. First fight we cleaned house of the scrub screener fleet that tagged me and Jean, but we lost the Mortar Brig so it was to some successes. I think Jean made it into the port battle, but for some reason I had an UI bug where I couldn't click on anything and got tagged again and just ran. Duncan had the same bug and was pulled into another fight. I Believe all and all we had 7-8 guys that didn't make it into that port battles. So these means weren't even fool proof. Screeners did there jobs as they keep some of the PB fleet out of the Port Battle. The new Fleet Mechanic hasn't been tested by us cause as soon as it came out every one stop showing up for the port battles cause they can't beat us in side. Well we assume that is what they think and with that attitude it's prob true. Every time I been in a FFA battle to do staging we sat right there at the point we joined and never moved. You would know this if some one actually got the balls and joined one. I keep hearing this they run and can't catch them. You want to know something about FFA battles? They are position join battles. There is no join circles. Joba can join the fight and tell me that we are running North. So in OW I will go north of the battle marker and join. Than I can tell the next guy I joined to soon or need more distance and they can join. So I tell Duncan hit it about 2 more ships from where I join back. Bang he does. We took out HELL clan like this cause we are organized. We had guys dropping right next to there ships as they ran from us. There is a limit though for the join but by than your so far into the battle before some one gets to that point any way. I think half you have never been in a FFA and just assume stuff. Maybe you should try jumping into one at a safe distance some time and actually learn the mechanics of them. I'll honestly never jump into one right at the cross swords cause they would put you right in the middle (like combat missions you join late.)

To be honest and we have said it before. If they brought proper fleets and the fight was out side on the OW we wouldn't even bother with the port battle. We would just have the fight out side. We can always flip a port later if we don't win the first time.

I call BS. When we fought US at Wilmington prepatch it was 19 vs 25 and we where about to loose as US had 960 points. Than we started to sink the US ships and brought it down and brought our number up to 1K and recapped all the circles. A lot can be done in 10 mins. Remember the first 10 mins no one gets points too. Wasn't PnP GB was up to something like 860 before we started to sink them and take control of the fight. US or GB has never won a fight like that cause as soon as they start too loose ships they all give up and run. When we are fighting we fight to the last ship if we can even if it means we loose them all. Cause we fight like this we tend to win against odds stacked against us. You know at Savanana if ya'll had even tried with he forts and the fact you had numbers if not as many first rates you might of beat us. We have came late into many fights or short numbers and still won. If you think you can't do it than you will never be able to. That is the down fall of many that don't win fights.

I prob should log in my chars and activate them over there just in case I pop in and feel like playing lol

As much as we butt heads at times on here going have to say I agree with a good part of this. What French is doing right now to Pirates is exactly what we do to the other nations. Though we take a port and use that as our jump point while ya'll use the freetowns. I'm about to move so I been kinda busy myself and of course I take Sundays off to spend time with my parents since they are getting up into their years now a days and it is nice to just take time off to spend with family. Can't have all my life be about the game, but I do try to show up for Port Battles and what is needed when I can.

Actually I was on it the last few days at the bottom but got knocked off. YOU FORGET THIS IS NOT MY ONLY PIRATE CHAR. Sir Texas Sir is my RVR heavy ship char. I have two other pirates. One is my crafter and the other is my shallow water light ship PvP char. Hell even my crafter got on there a while back after a failed hit on it's trader. The thing is the main guys that you see on there a lot do solo hunting through out the day (Koltes/Palannar for the pirates). The reason the numbers are so big for guys like KoC and others is cause they are wolf packing and letting the leader of the pack get the kills. Oh and right back at you....I don't think I have ever seen your name on the PvP leader board since the patch dropped that added it. NEVER so do you even hunt any more? Hell I haven't seen your name in the CombatNews at all. I think all you do is just chat these days while your waiting for the other MMO game to start. Hell right now Dave the Spanish has the most PvP points....lol

We are not the largest group. We might have the largest RvR/PvP force on the game, but we are not by far the largest. GB has that honors and with the nation changing of some clans I think it's getting more closer to a balanced server than it ever has been. Go look at our port battles and look at the names. It's the same 20-25 guys over and over. Hell just look at the Lord Protector leader board and it will pretty much be the same names in all those port battles. I would love to see an updated tally of active players logging in one weekend again to see what the nations numbers look like now a days as it's been what almost 3 months since the patch dropped. They should of done one a month or so ago to let folks know where the nation balance are.

US biggest problem is they keep listening to the same PvP2 guy that got nothing done back on PvP2. This is Global and we need change. As with any nation if you keep doing the same thing over and over and it's not working it's time for a change. Also you don't get better by sitting in port. You have to come out and fight. Though if you are out number or out classed don't rush out and get your self killed. Pirates aren't crushed by a long shot by France or any one else. What we are doing is telling folks to not go out solo in traders or with a small scrub force. France is doing exactly what we do to US and GB right now. We go to the capital and the only ones for the most part responding are the low levels and scrubs or small clans and they get slaughtered. That and don't let some one egg you out into a fight you might not win. You always want to fight on your terms not theirs, but this doesn't mean not show up and fight at all. By not fighting your not winning either. The reason I always say GB and US need to fight each other is for two reasons. In the past they had close to same number of players, while not all where PvP/RvR players but any one can become a PvP player if they just get out and fight. It would be good experience for both sides to fight a more matched skilled set of players to get them trained and organized. It would also mean we can do other things our selves and tend to more PvP OW stuff. Which by the way we do plan to deal with the french issue, but we plan stuff out and we need to switch from RvR mode to Heavy PvP (not solo/small group hunting). These types of play takes different ships and with this patch it's not exactly cheap to have the dock space and ports to do so like it was before the patch. I actually respect what the French are doing right now, it's been ages since we had a few clans/nations work together properly. Not to mention they are helping us clean house. A lot of the scrubs/mort rats they are killing are guys that jump ship from other nations. Why the hell would we want some one that jumps ship in the first place. IF they can't hack it they will prob roll to France or some other nation and that is not a problem any more. The guys that do keep playing and fighting will get better and become good core PvP players for the nation and make it stronger not weaker. This is yet another reason we keep telling the PvP2 guys they need to get out and fight other folks than just Pirates. I'l also like to say PvP2 wasn't this toxic on the furoms and global chat as it has been since Patch. Yes we had those few players, but no where to this level. We need to leave old grudges in and the past and play the server we are all on now, PvP GLOBAL.

I would like to add the rules also state false accusing some one is against the rules. So accusing all BLACK or one player or another of something. I been accused over and over and I wasn't even in that battle. At the same time that one was going on this one was going on.

and here every one was getting excited it was going to be the Unity update....way to soon for that. Well guess I'll go lay UG: Civil War until I head to bed.

The two big issues I have if that many folks have mention you fixed the Marks prob with PvE vs PvP but you didn't fix the problem that you hardly get any xp or gold for your PvP. Not to mention the fact you have to share it with every one in the group or you get nothing. I still think we should go back to XP for damage so that the little player that did a lot of sail damage and helped still gets rewarded even if he didn't get an assist or kill. This will also give you a little something if you die in a fight. Cause it should be a learning experience even if you loose. I noticed when we get stuck doing a lot of PvP/RvR my econ gets slacked and I'm not making any money cause the PvP pay outs are just so slow and you only get it for assist and kills. I think Marks should remain this way along with gold, but gold needs to be bumped up and xp should be for damage done over all through the fight. Why are all the random book drops and uncraftable mods only through PvE? There should be loot drop chance reward in PvP too. Why do we get no rewards now for a Port Battle victory. If a bunch of guys do all the RvR and win the map, the rest of the nation that did nothing gets the rewards too. Port battle victory needs a reward like something simple as Pain Chest. Nothing game balance breaking just something to show these guys did that hard work. This could of been a good reward for PvP Leader board too.

actually you can do the same. Put said ship in your fleet. Tag an ai and than it surrenders once you leave the battle without telling it to escape. Battle over the guys still in it can go take repairs off it and be on there way. Didn't think of the way Skully put it thought that is one way to do it to.6

4 hour down time, that only happens for big update/patches? Ok what them sneaky devs been working on while they been all silent the last couple of weeks for the most part?

I personally don't give a crap if folks just keep the false accusation without proof out of it on all sides. I think a little mud slinging is fun to be honest, but some times I think half the server needs to be in ignore for a week or turn off global too and it would be such a boring but much more silent place........did I say boring?

The original poster even asked this for the very same reason that it turned into nothing more than just a sling fest and by folks that aren't even in the nations of the original content involved. Doesn't help the moderators even jumped in on the mud slinging which is why most of us don't trust them to be unbias any more.

But that is in a battle that you can join at any time, but he's actually kinda wrong on that one. We couldn't use the outlaws to switch repairs at that time. We use open world NPC for that. You tag an AI. You capture the ship and than put repairs on it so some one else can come up and take them off. You can't do that in an outlaw battle before hand as fleets weren't allowed in there and the only way to trade in battle at this time is with a capture ship with no crew on it. What I'm saying is that any one be allowed in any battle they are on the same team and I don't think FFA/Pirate battles would count as same team. While in battle you can stop and do a trade with a team mate to give them some of your repairs, but I would put a good timer on it so it can't really be done in the middle of battle but more for the end of battle timer when your getting ready to jump out.9 Though now with the capture of all 5th rates below it makes it even more easy to repair while away from home. Hit a trader. Capture trader and take control of it. Go into port repair your ship and buy supplies if they have it. Pop out and hit another trader/NPC. Switch back to you combat ship and send the trader off with min crew. Get out of battle sink trader so it doesn't slow you down. I haven't tested the fleet thing with outlaw/FFA battles yet. If they fight against you than it can be abused by bring a low crew trader with repairs. Board it and get all the repairs off it and leave a little crew and than leave. Keep doing this every time you need more repairs on your main ship. Though the trader would slow you down in OP so this would be more the grind a fleet thing than something you would do for OW PvP hunting. I would lock the trade to after the battle is over to be honest. That way we can trade loot or repairs at the end of the battle.

So you admit MODS have powers that normal players don't have? Every game I been in that has Moderators they did so too. Including game powers. I been MODERATOR in a few games over the years and one thing we did was you had two accounts. You had your moderator account with the special powers that you had log in while doing your duty as a moderator and the only time you played the actual game with that account was when doing special events and tournaments set up as judge and event coordinators not as an every day player. When you do every day play you used your actual player account that has no powers what so every. I called @The Red Duke out about this last night cause while not accusing him of exploiting, but some one did with some other broken game mechanics that even he admitted has been reported, he pulled his MOD card as soon as some one made that accusation. Than he pulled the same mod card saying he has a bunch of powers at hand (I assume chat bans type stuff not special in game powers) so I dropped the subject cause I didn't want him to abuse his powers he only selectively wants to use. Which both of you been in GLOBAL chat when myself and my clan has been accused of exploiting or cheating over and over even to the point folks where calling me Sir Cheater Sir (I wasn't even in the one tribunal battle). That is a form of harassment and part the very rule your saying folks is breaking by making accusation you ignored when they did it. One of your job as a moderator is to prevent folks from abusing the rules in chat. You personally have laughed about it and than blew it off and just keep playing your game. That is not a very professional image you both give off as Moderators. That green tag means you should be above the par than the other players and show professionalism. This why other games do not let there Moderators play with there moderator accounts too. It's a little hard to trust a moderator that is on one side sitting in a fleet that just used a bad game mechanic that he even admits is broken and been reported many times and than pulls his moderator card. Your job is to be moderators of the forums and game chat not pick one side or the other of a struggle. To be honest I feel ya'll are more just some ones best buddy that got a green tag cause your special and you abuse it a bit more than you should. The only thing I ask is ya'll need to tone down some of your comments that aren't game related as a moderator are do what just about every game out there does. MODERATORS is not your playing char. And have a separate char for that. mod·er·a·tor ˈmädəˌrādər/ noun plural noun: moderators 1. an arbitrator or mediator. "Egypt managed to assert its role as a regional moderator" a presiding officer, especially a chairman of a debate. a Presbyterian minister presiding over an ecclesiastical body. 2. a person who moderates an Internet forum or online discussion. The only thing I ask of any Mods is to watch how you present yourself when your suppose to be an unbias mediator and moderators of both Global Chat and the Forums is all. Some times you guys come of very biased about things (mainly in game) cause you are still in your playing Char mode and not being a Moderator roll is all. I don't know how it is on EU cause i haven't played on there in ages, but from what I remember you didn't see Moderators getting very involved in the fighting or politics in game when I was last playing. Just like I assume the Devs have there own chars they play that aren't named Ink or Admin or have the brow/red name tag to them. That is cause they separate the roles from there jobs when they play. Hell for all I know that solo guy with no clan tag that I sanked the other day could been INK For all I know or any one else on the dev team. Now for moral of the game. We where not crushed last night and I'm glad some of the BLACK guys got sunk cause we keep telling them not to go out there and not to go with a half arse mixed fleet of guys with no clue. IF that was all BLACK members in that fight it would of turned out a lot different. Not saying we would of won, but the numbers of reds would off been a bit different. I was in the Gulf doing the NO flip watching two guys twitch the fight. One of them (on pirates side) I felt so sorry for the guy as it was prob one of his first real PvP fight and i think he made every mistake in the book and got very frustrated and it showed in his fighting. I'll be honest a lot of the pirates need training and experience. What I saw was some very good PvPers take on a half scrub team and beat them. Exactly what BLACK does all the time and I think it was good some of our guys got taken down a notch. If it helps the server Moral that is even a bit better to show folks we can be beat and do loose fights. I'm hoping the French do make this a regular thing and we can get some good fights out of it, but I'm also not impressed with there bragging when they clearly knew most of our fleets was up in Bermuda or in the Gulf the last few nights doing other things and than brag about smashing lesser clan/players. The time will come when a proper fight between the two groups happens and we will see. I bet you it's going to be a good even skilled match too. One side or the other might win a few and loose a few, but that is what great about games like this you aren't all ways going to be top dog, some one else will come along eventually and take that spot. Oh and a few pirates all ready jumped ship to France I heard. I'm pretty sure they where ex US/GB players so ya'll can have them. It just blows my mind these guys think they are going to be any better jumping nation. Maybe they will run out of forge papers and be stuck some where other than in our nation. Most of these fence jumpers for any nations don't really matter as they weren't the guys out doing PvP and grinding and trying to make there nation healthy in the first place and sooner or later get tired of the game and go off to play something else. Just think of each of these events for any nation as a good way of cleaning house. Those that stay and fight get stronger and better. Those that leave, well you really didn't want them in your nation any way. Let them go be some one else problem. Now I'll get off my soap box and go enjoy my family day.....

This would be abused so much, the whole point of ports is to do you trading in them not go to some safe spot in the middle of the ocean and trade. The same goes for fleet ships. Some one can switch there goods and than dump the fleet ship if they think they are about to get chased or something like that. That or they will use the fleet to bring tons of repairs for far away fleet grindings and flipping. So I say no to OW trading between any ships. Though I do think in battle they should allow it. Put a small timer on it so that if your trading cargo in the middle of battle you have to actual stop and trade and that makes both ships at risk and vulnerable.

Real men don't read no Manuals.....goes to read his now...

You did not loose half believe me. I know about 10-15 came over with maybe a few solo guys. That is hardly half the nation. All those 1st rates we saw ya'll pull out of Bermuda and other ships showed us ya'll have plenty of players and ships. You just don't want to use them. Yah heard about that, what up with the DUTCH suddenly? Just heard some went French and some went Dane. Are they going to be the new Spain/Swedes? Figured ya'll would just keep to your corner and be the trade nation.

I actually like this one...

Actually tested it. IF you are in a mission you exit like normal. When you exit an open world PvE battle you get the speed buff (not sure about the invisibility). So tagging and AI in OW has the exact same effect after the battle as tagging a player.

You forget number 3. Every nation has it's window lickers, yes even pirates. Some folks just don't know when not to shut their mouths in Nation chat about things they shouldn't be talking about or even in Global. I'll be honest with you I don't need alts to get my info. I got players in several nations that actually feed me info all the time. Is it all true, prob 75% of it is true when I piece the info together from more than one source, but the majority of it is BS and misdirection. All nations and that includes Pirates got folks that either talk about stuff they shouldn't in National Chat or talk about things they don't have all the facts or correct info all the time.