Marcus Botanicus

This may be in the wrong thread but are fire ships going to be added in the game as well? These terror ships have been used all through the age of sail. In the Anglo-Dutch wars many were used and both van der Velde Jr. and Sr. painted these ships. Presently I am reading a book "Fireship - The Terror Weapon of the Age of Sail". By Peter Kirsh. I can definitely get the names of the British and the Dutch. David Antscherl's book 'The Royal Navy Fireship COMET of 1783 is a monograph with 6 sheets of plans. http://www.seawatchbooks.com/114002 Marcus

Great find. Don't have this bookmark yet.

Bart, Where did you get that picture from the Vlissingen? I know a professional modeler who has the actual model that was built around the 1900's. Bought this at an auction with other large models that need repair. If you have any more information I would appreciate it. Thanks. Marcus

Wicked mouse is correct by mentioning that the Utrecht is not a merchant vessel. The term "yacht" originates from the Dutch word jacht "hunt". It was originally defined as a light fast sailing vessel used by the Dutch navy to pursue pirates and other transgressors around and into the shallow waters of the Low Countries. Luxury States-yachts were based on war-yachts, and used in the 17th and 18th century to transport prominent members of Dutch society in great comfort over shallow rivers and inland waters. Between 1600 and 1800 around two hundred states-yachts were built in Holland. All single masted ships, of 15 to 30 meters (49 to 98 ft) in length. They were the equivalent of today’s chauffeur driven Maybachs and Rolls Royces. States-yachts were owned by the States of Holland and the Dutch East India Company to maintain contact between large merchant vessels and the shore based headquarters. Yacht of the VOC chamber of Rotterdam In the 18th century wealthy merchants also started using luxury states-yachts as means of transportation or purely as pleasure yachts. The crew was located next to the galley near the bow of the yacht. The large windows on the stern provided natural light for the guests in the main saloon. The first Royal yacht was the "Mary". The Yacht Mary was built in the Netherlands and was presented to Prince Charles Stuart by the town of Amsterdam on the occasion of his proclamation to King of England. Measuring 66 feet in length by 18 feet in the beam, it was 100 tons burden and carried an armament of six three-pounder guns. The hull is of a typical Dutch form with a flat and shallow draught using adjustable lee-boards to act as a keel when under sail. It is considered the prototype of the pleasure-boats. General information about Yachts. "Yacht" a boat with decks, sails and cabins, It draws very little water & is excellent for short voyages. One is accustomed to using them for promenades & short crossings." For centuries, the Netherlands had depended upon and cultivated its countless waterways as its primary means of transportation, both of goods and of people. The successful opening of trade with the Indies brought vast wealth to whole sectors of Dutch society, and it was only natural that this bounty expressed itself on the sea. Even prior to the "great boom" of the early 1600's, many of the Netherlands' small, open or half-decked craft, such as the round-sterned Kaag, were often used as pleasure craft. It was an easy and natural progression to deck them over and provide for a small cabin, usually aft, but occasionally in the middle of the boat. As Dutch town-dwellers grew more affluent, more and more of these crafts were being built exclusively for pleasure. By 1620 hundreds of yachts were plying Holland's canals and its inland sea some owned by the Dutch East India Company and its officers, but many more owned by shareholders and other indirect beneficiaries. As early as 1630, boisterous racing competitions were being staged, often pitting neighboring cities against each other in friendly rivalries. Waterborne parades and even mock-battles became a staple of Dutch entertainment culture; even their pleasure-yachts celebrated the country's naval prowess by carrying cannons. Thank you for reading. Marcus

Hi there; I have a general question and not sure where this would go. First of all, I was approached by someone from this site on modelshipworld.com asking if I had plans of Dutch ships. I built mostly Dutch yachts (Staten, War, Prinsen, Heren and Paveljoen yachts). As well as a variety of 17th century merchant ships. Recent book from Seawatch books on merchant ships http://www.seawatchbooks.com/114003 Over the years I have collected a huge amount of plans of Aken to Zompen and everything in between. Most of what I have is from merchant ships. The other plans are from war ships and VOC ships. All types. Most of the plans have Outboard profile, Water lines, Body plan, Hull lines and Frames which is important for the scratch builder. Books with plans I have are from Chapman Plan du bateau-Min. of Def. in French. Edmond Paris, Souvenirs de Marine in German. E. van Konijnenburg Shipbuilding from its beginning, 3 volumes 1895-1905 So to all what types of ships do you want? Depending on what is requested and I can probably create a list if need to. If there is a need for Dutch merchant ships, the easiest way for me would be to upload everything I have. All input is appreciated. Thank you. Marcus

They are called 'garboards' For stability. Marcus

Just like the paviljoen, Heren, Prinsen jachten, but there are many flat and round bottom yachts that are merchant vessels. They occurred mostly in the inner waterways. Marcus

I am not sure if this has been mentioned and I don't know where this goes. There is a book from Seawatch Books about 17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships by Ab Hoving and Cor Emke and models by Herbert Tomesen and photos by Emiel Hoving (Photshop).. 152 pages 24 sets of plans (12 ships) both in 1/4 and 1/8 scale. I have this book as I am going to build several of these models. Plans are too large to scan. There are plans for a second volume but unfortunately Cor Emke died in March of this year. He is the one that creates all the plans. Seawatchbooks has many books with plans from professional shipbuilders. I have several of there books, plans included. There are many other sites/links that have plans and descriptions of ships. (I was approached by a person named Alex - from Game labs, on modelshipworld on plans and I sent him many links. For more info on any ship go to modelshipworld.com The largest and most visited model ship website on this side of the galaxy. Marcus