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  1. 17 points
    A small guide to stay safe(ish) while fighting bots These topics pop up on occasion: I'm green text in-game (chat mod) so I sometimes get contacted by frustrated players: Some sandbox pundits think people need a bunch of shiny PvE content to engage in the game and distract them enough to not minding playing the victim over and over: I think this is truly idiotic but the dudes honestly believe this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ People either like or feel forced to hump bots. “Pros” like to jump people doing it or ambush them as they come out. I have no sympathy for people who engage in such weak-ass PvP. This guide will help you reduce your exposure to such inane sandbox heroes. If you go out into OW you will be at risk, this is fine, the slower the ship the more exposed you are. If you’re one of those who likes to be left alone with your L’Ocean I can only help a tiny bit. Before you go out into OW synchronise Felix’ map with OW, it may help you orientate when coming out of an instance. Always note your heading when going into a fight, you’ll have the same heading when you get out. If possible make it easy for yourself to run to safety when you get out, after you’re done with the bots you have about 15 minutes to plan where to zoom with accelerated invisibility when you click out into OW. The admiralty Kill missions are private and people can’t jump you when you enter those (?), before clicking in point your ship towards where you believe you’ll have the most safety (reinforcement zone, ports, forts…). When you tag a bot in the reinforcement zone (R zone) you won’t be able to call in bots to help you and the forts won’t shoot at your enemy [correction: @Banished Privateer confirms that forts will shoot at enemy players] but your countrymen will have 30 minutes to come join and help you. If you’re jumped in the R-zone make sure to bring up the nation chat and tell everyone where the fight is, remember you can bring up chat inside the instance. If it’s the typical gank group try to waste as much of their time as possible, both to allow help to arrive but also to bore them as much as possible. They’re griefing you so feel free to return the favour: Fire ship, run, surrender or whatever you think will annoy them the most. Do not rage in chat because they feed on that. How to tag an OW bot or fleet. You should always scan the horizon, but be extra vigilant right before and if possible while the tag timer counts down. The two minute timer is long enough for ships beyond visual range to join before your fight closes, this only applies to windward ships so keep the keenest eye upwind. Make it a habit to tag with optimal wind position as that gives you a favourable fighting position or the option to extend and escape should you get jumped. Let the timer run for two minutes while you “escape” before engaging. The instance jumpers will inherit the relative bot position when they join and will have a hard time catching up with you. A gank group may have a smaller upwind sailer and with the weather gauge you’ll be able to seriously put out hurt on the small ships separated from their cavalry. If you’re chased by gankers in OW you can proactively tag bots with favourable wind and draw out the chase or get lucky and escape with accelerated invisibility. Don’t grow up to become a ganker or instance jumper yourself. That stuff is for the weak minds. You need real fights and shit like that won’t sustain you but rather rot your brain. ____ Made a youtube pretty out of this to make life harder for you shitheads... Bite me!
  2. 17 points
    I want to try one thing (it might ruin everything though) Raking should deliver more structural damage (broadsides should be stronger - structure weaker) And the diameter based damage could be wrong (wood displaced) The potential problem is that all movement parameters of the ship are based on the real ship stats (sails, % of sail groups, turning is based on hull and depth etc etc) But damage and hull strength is using old sea trials diameter based damage (and corresponding hull size for suitable time to kill). If we move to the weight base damage, ships of the line will destroy most light ships from 500 m through bow or stern damage or just by delivering broadsides. This will add a tradeoff to heavy ships (which (this tradeoff) is currently weak) if they let light ship onto stern they will still be vulnerable and die (without escorts) due to increased raking damage. But other benefits will be increased. Bow and stern tanking will mean = you lose most structure and die for comparison (rough numbers) Diameter based damage = 4lb 25 vs 42lb 60+ Weight based damage = 4lb 25 vs 42lb 250+! (victory will deliver at least 7500 damage in one broadside - completely demasting and removing all structure on a light frigate) This will solve the repair dilemma, will slightly increase dynamics of the battles and will make first rates justify their prices (which could then be increased further).
  3. 9 points
    I'm ready for another whacky patch! We could do it on testbed to protect the feelings of the weak. If it's shit then we'll know, no harm done.
  4. 6 points
    the original idea was to promote aggressive close range combat (if you remember many battles were just long range mast shootings) and give the chance to recover from damage evening out your experience over the course of the battle (if the enemy does not pursuit you aggressively) the 3 repairs system was ok and we just wanted to try to make it better - settling on the ability to take repairs with you (limited by your hold space)
  5. 5 points
    Whenever I play NA i drink my rum out of this mug
  6. 5 points
    Fire up NAL testserver all ships available combat values same as NA servers just shot weight update - allow duels ❤️
  7. 5 points
    Probably the best guide ever made. I thougt jodgis fishing guide was the ultimate tutorial, but jodgis safety guide arises as a new standard of guide quality. Unique features: posted in the right subforum has tags written by jodgi, best author ever dank ASCII meme obligatory GIF meme great formatting very helpful visualization from the maker of "jodgis fishing guide" uncovers superior tactics used only by the best players such as "use wind", "use eyes" or "use memes" it just works Cant wait for jodgis next masterpiece.
  8. 5 points
    Good little scrap up at Little River tonight. Lionshaft commanding for the US fleet and myself for the Pirates. We had a little mishap with a dude getting tagged in his third rate and then had to scramble a replacement a couple mins in. Good MB duel there at the fort. Unfortunately they let us have the wind the entire time and we just herded them in and sunk one by one. Not really sure what their plan was, seems like they didn't have one.
  9. 4 points
    ^it looks empty and never used... 😉
  10. 4 points
    Ideal tag for missions and pvp...
  11. 4 points
  12. 4 points
    yes. we are working on the patch that will include updated battle UI, first versions of official localizations, new trading, postal missions (passengers and letters) and 1v1 patrol. If this patch will get longer than expected we will hot fix the muskets before it.
  13. 3 points
    Per informazione, specie per eventuali nuovi giocatori italiani (benvenuti!), una parte rilevante (e parlando di attivi, probabilmente maggioritaria) della popolazione italiana in questo gioco è nel clan FENIX che ora combatte sotto i colori dell'Impero Britannico. Grazie e buon vento.
  14. 3 points
    Hey! I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but I just sank a St Pavel in a basic cutter and I'm sorry to say but that was easy! I entered the battle to surrender and return to port quickly, but then I though what the hell why not die like a true sailor. So I sailed toward the mighty Pavel! It gives we a warning broadside, and I'm in shock. I quickly turn at around 100 meter distance to it and fire back, but all balls bounce of.. I'm thinking just getting some damage here should give me some decent xp, right!? So greed forces me to sail up to and test a broadside at 1 meter away and yes they all penetrate from that distance. So then my plan is to stay there gun blazing until I die, but then the AI stopped trying to shot me. So I just stay there and shot my broadside, then again, ..... and again until it sinks.. I sailed very slow and very close at the middle-to rear en of the Pavels broadside, just hoping this would trick it to stay downwind of me and this worked. 2 times I sailed to slow for a split second, so the mighty Pavel tried to pull me - but auto skipper saved me both times. And at the end i stayed a bit further away from the Pavel as you can see in the picture. I'm sure it could have shot me if it had just neutralized it's sails and depowered, but it did not. To sum it up: This was easy, all I needed was 29 minutes staying right next to it and not dropping bellow 3.8kn. It was a basic cutter with default cannons.. I have never tried this before so I'm not sure if it is old news or a new bug. I did not bug report it with F11 because I forgot and then I'm kinda doubting this is a new unknown bug..
  15. 3 points
    You're right.... "Ganking" never existed in real life.... "but, bit, but..... its a game......."
  16. 3 points
    Having “tested” the mechanic several times, players can join and leave the battle for the first 10mins of the fight and the BR can be replaced. All joiners in the fight, even if they leave, will get lord protector status. This has been in effect for the better part of a year and reported many times. Just goes to show how absurdly sad the current PB/RVR system is. On the bright side, It’s good to see Graf back on the forums defending Russia again. Sup buddy!
  17. 3 points
    Most important thing to retain: - there's absolutely no certainty of safety in war server
  18. 3 points
    ^This is pretty much it @Pirate78. I always get long winded and insert forum politics: I hope you approve @Havelock...
  19. 3 points
    <Gasp!> You guys! You don't like the treasure hunt grind to make truly special ships?! I'm hurt and offended!
  20. 2 points
    I like the general approach of more structural damage by raking. B U T keep in mind a drastic change like this can only work if all parameters are reviewed before this goes live. Mast damage, chain damage, penetration mechanics, damage falloff etc etc are all connected. Im not even sure if i want ships to sink only through raking. Id be fine for now if we just raised the maximum structure damage to a point where it severely cripples a ship. E.g. 20% minimum structure through raking means -50% speed and also lowers side and mast thickness. Cannon loss is fine but imo repairing cannons is too easy as it happens automatically together with hull repair.
  21. 2 points
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  23. 2 points
    Which is why we need a Mediterranean Version... Man, I would love that.
  24. 2 points
    Seems like we got bigger fish to fry than tweaking the damage model....... like working economy, incentive based RVR and ROE tweaks that make sense and don't drive people to quit. But WTF do I know
  25. 2 points
    You could try limiting repairs of 1st rates to balance this. SOL's get 1-2 repair each, Frigates get 3, light ships get 5 (slow to fast paced combat respectively)
  26. 2 points
    do it! on step closer to realism
  27. 2 points
    Ganks are negative content that kill the fun and adds bitter salt to every day combat(unless you're a sociopath who only likes to punish, doesn't care about fun) fair battles where both sides can engage with confidence is good content, and promotes the game self servingly with good sportsmanship and competition. You can't sell players on a game that revolves around ganking others and chasing people for hours. there, I said it.
  28. 2 points
    Oh, it was tried. Lead to some problems (don't remember how big). It definitely lead to a bunch of whining "Y I cannot halp mah friend?!", "See swords, can't get in!"
  29. 2 points
    See, being aggressive and close up is only half of what makes a battle. What's the reason to get rid of the dance that is ship combat and make it so only brutish, brawling dps wars count for securing kills? Seems like a pretty big part of combat has been removed because you HAVE to be up close the entire time or the enemy gets away, or is able to retreat and repair, which more time added to already long battles. I wasn't around for 3 repairs but I've seen many videos from then. Ever since I started playing nearly half of my entire time in battle has been chasing a much smaller force hitting sails with bow guns down to 80% and they repair to 100% rinse and repeat until an hour has passed of non-combat And it still isn't solved even with the change. So at the cost of the integrity of battles being diminished to up close DPS/heal tank like WoW, we got almost no improvement where should have gotten it.
  30. 2 points
    Thats weird. I usually come home with more reps than when I left. Although it seems strange that someone may actually have a different gaming experience than you. I mean, how could that possibly be the case? (Stop assuming you know whats best for the game and for everyone, please.)
  31. 2 points
    Good stuff! Remember my imaginary and absent target audience would be guys that struggle and not you. (That cues us into @z4ys nagging me to put it on YT, apparently the plebs live there)
  32. 2 points
  33. 2 points
    We have this unavoidable break between OW and instance so it's all but impossible to make it "perfect". It's just my guilty pleasure to pretend shaming gankers will do any good at all. I don't disagree with you, I simply wanted Legends. Thanks! Will fix. Didn't know as I've never tagged a bot inside R zone close to the forts and then been jumped. Dude, you know I'm the greatest PvE player on the War server! @Havelock, Stahp! You're making me blush. @z4ys Don't pressure me!
  34. 2 points
    I think one of the major problems in the game today is that every involuntary fight is considered a gank - even a Surprise vs Victory. Unfair tactics such as waiting on top of a battle is certainly a hindrance to fun, but so is tagging an AI fleet to escape, sitting under the forts or calling for a revenge fleet. In the end the game allows it, so I'd always direct my critism at the game rather than the individuals playing it.
  35. 2 points
    Even BR in a straight brawl, circles and points irrelevant. All brawling ships, nobody was fir/fir (at least hopefully not...); 24 hours to assemble a fleet for us, more for them because they were the attackers and had all the time they wanted to plan what and who to bring. The only reason you can call it 'lopsided' is because we played smarter and our guys who got beat up could fall back; we denied them that ability, keeping constant pressure on them till they sunk or got boarded (boarding Pavel FTW). US has been asking for an even battle with the Pirates for a while now (they usually insinuate that we have low skill and can't win without some sort of advantage...despite many examples to the opposite).....they got one and this is the result. Was fun, enjoyed it, hopefully they'll consider our offer to do more arranged fights in agreed-upon ship classes.
  36. 2 points
    Very good guide, Although always keep this in mind.. if you encourage this: You lose your right to complain about this: Many PvP'ers if asked politely during battle will often help you get the ship back or simply accept a 1v1 duel with no kill. The gain from PvP these days are minimal (better to hunt AI traders), so I would recommend a good tone in battle since most people tag because they think PvP is more fun - not because they stand to win something.
  37. 2 points
    This is so true! I had a 2. rate kill order where I could bring one 2. rate to kill 3x 2. rates, and I would get a mission chest and a silver chest for it. Now if I bring one more player along on this mission, when we join it will adapt to a 6x AI 2. rates vs 2x player 2. rates. The fact that it does this is awesome, but totally let down by the fact that only the player with the kill mission gets the chest rewards for completing the kill mission. Fighting 6 AI vs 2 players is imo a lot more difficult than just doing it solo 1 vs 3 AI. Challenge is fun, but it needs to be rewarding. So both players should get the reward for completion. No point increasing the risk if the reward is not increased as well. So kill missions has the potential to be awesome. And these kill missions with silver/gold chest rewards I have only gotten around free ports, or on rare occasion distant nation ports. So it is not like we will be back to farming huge AI fleets in front of our capital and getting all the best loot possible again. This is still missions, the loot in the ships are shit 9 out of 10 times and the reward for completion is as far as I know only desirable when the kill mission is far outside the reinforcement zones/near free towns.
  38. 2 points
    It's not uncommon when patrolling an area that you come across open battles that you can jump in - I reckon your friend just got unlucky and the hunters got lucky. If you want to be as safe as possible from PvP the best thing you can do is to get a tag at the edge of the circle that allows you to escape at your best angle and then start running immediately until the battle timer reaches 1:28:45. Only after the battle has closed in OW should you turn around and fight the AI. If you're unwilling to do this, you have to live with the fact that there's a 1/50 chance of other players joining your battle. Most importantly: The best way to avoid PvP is to do your PvE far away from the populated areas - areas with players will ALWAYS attract PvP'ers.
  39. 2 points
    in "Wargame Experimentation and Analysis: Re-Examining Executed Computer Assisted Wargames" we read... Game theory suffices if all the possible results of an engagement are known, and payoff values can be calculated for each one. However, this is highly unlikely in combat operations. In short, it is often impossible or impractical to attempt to solve many large-scale, real-world game situations, as the potential number of outcomes quickly overwhelms the participants. And this is the simple truth that we, as players, in a large majority wish to know and control all possible venues of approach, resolution and outcome. Be it at logistics, defining engagement or combat itself. We risk less when we deal with unknown quantities, no matter how much info we get - and the great unknown quantity is the battle itself as it is the major uncontrollable beast. For NA this means - having resources and consumables always available at all times, even if Conquest would deny it, rules of engagement to deny opponents opportunities to score on our mistakes, and finally the combat meta. At the level of logistics and Conquest "end game" ( let's not fool ourselves, game design is based around combat and everything leading to combat, being the end combat mode the major battles for a port ) any multiplayer group can more or less control what to do and what to achieve. Once combat is joined, no matter the quality of ships - blue standard or exceptional gold - the incentive to take the risks is exponentially worsened in the mind of the wargame players. As stated, multiplayer NA should not try to assess all details as the best laid out ships and laid out conquest operations - or patrol zone operations - will collapse when in contact with the enemy. My own personal quirk with the "road to combat" is exactly this. Too many information makes "combatants" less willing to risk, as they "compute" too much of it and, in the majority of engagements will determine - without any certainty - that they will lose and therefore wish to deny or simply evade the combat resolution. RNG in crafting ships is simply one abstract mechanic to simulate disparities - many for unknown reasons - between sister ships in the age of sail. It wasn't the wind, the captain or the trimming. Fact is, some ships built in the same yards, by the same architects and teams did behave different. Alas, in the real world they had to work with it. Here in game we have the option to simply destroy the ship and try again. In a RL that was no option. The ship would be given command and would sail to fight enemies. And in this last bit a Blue standard quality ship can perform admirably, as Gold exceptional ship is no guarantee of success.
  40. 2 points
    When you look at warehouses of players that are around for a while then you will find out that they are cramped with stuff. So making gold ship just an expensive choice is fake. Because what is expensive when players can have unlimited stacks of everything? RNG is the only solution that is fair to everyone. It's the same for the guy who just got into crafting and has just a handful of mats and the one who has almost unlimited mats.
  41. 2 points
    Though outnumbered our battle vs the Polish screeners isn't quite worthy of immortalization in this topic. We were hoping the Swedish screeners would join them for support. I do however have a video of Reverse leading the celebrations in Bermuda afterwards:
  42. 1 point
    German: Ich arbeite gerade an der deutschen Sprachdatei für Naval Action. Nach meiner Auffassung müsste ich 50-60% der Sprachdatei bisher übersetzt haben. Ich werde die Sprachdatei aktualisieren, sobald ich weiter voran komme und lass es euch wissen. Zum Ändern der Sprache ladet euch die Datei herunter und kopiert sie in euren Languages-Ordner im Naval Action Verzeichnis. Danach wird die Sprachdatei euch unter "General" angezeigt. English: I am currently working on the German language file for Naval Action. In my opinion, I would have translated 50-60% of the language file so far. I will update the language file as I move forward and let you know. To change the language, download the file and copy it to your "Languages" folder in the Naval Action directory. Then the language file will be displayed under "General". Datei/File : German.csv (04.03.19)
  43. 1 point
  44. 1 point
  45. 1 point
    Personally i really loved the structural damage we had "long ago" in the test server with crippling damage to the ship systems including rigging - if you remember testbed when wasa was introduced - BUT - Ships move too fast and manoeuvre too fast for rake crippling damage to be increased. Everything, all ship evolutions with or against the wind feel too fast. That's my 2 cents.
  46. 1 point
    I'm not sick of anything my man. I'm new on these forums and I enjoy the discussion. Our views on this just differ I guess in that I really like the new system. I don't accept the notion that it's flawed at it's core. You are right... ships don't repair 250% of their health in battle. I have never seen this happen. I'm no vet but I often run northern carpenter and combat carpentry and I get about the same amount of reps as you suggest. 3, 4... 5, 6 if it's a longer battle. More in OW battles, less in PZ on account of the circle shrinking. It's a system that I enjoy more than the flat rate suggested. It's more granular as I need to juggle things: Do I take half a hold of repairs and keep my speed? Am I likely to fight more than one battle before reaching port so do I need more? How many reps has my enemy taken? (I've fought a few where the enemy had none for example. I've also gone into battle without any before) Am I likely to get jumped in this engagement? if so thank baby Jesus that I took extra reps in type of thing In terms of buying, it's the ship that determines how many repairs = 1 rep..... with corresponding weight and speed limitations. The fact that you can't buy them everywhere I feel is part of a different discussion. I don't see why every port doesn't have sail, hull and rum but I've not given this deeper thought. Why does it make more congruent sense to have a flat rate of 3? I don't wan't to put words in your mouth but is it more the amount of rep % that you have issue with? taking perks, skillbooks and modules in account? Would there be middle ground if the % amount per rep was reduced instead? Regards Captain Ahab
  47. 1 point
    Rediii is correct in his approach, in my opinion. He looks to the game design, not to the event in itself. We don't know what design changes are coming to Conquest. There's even a thread to interact with the game designers about it here Also this thread is in the wrong place, hence it will be relocated to the correct board.
  48. 1 point
    Banished is united with you for some time now, his lips on your behind. I wish I had fans like you have. Congrats for the port battle 😄
  49. 1 point
    PB for Fort Baai Good training before the influx of Chinese players Screen from british players: Screen from Swedish, Pirates, Danish, Polish players: Port Battle: All enemy screeners lost ships, Thanks for Prussian players and players from Russian empire. Waiting for screenshots from Banished and Analytic and thanks for battles. Russian empire can unite people
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