Sir_Wiener_Von_Snitzel Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Danish Flagships form the 17th Christianus Quintus aka Prins Christian aka Elefanten/The elephant length 146 ft, width of 38 ft, and a depth of 13 feet and 9 inches armed with 84 guns and a crew of 567 men. Fredericus Quartus Fredericus Quartus 1699 was one of the largest ship in the world in her time , and largest in Danish Navy ever. She was 1695 laests (c.3400 t.) displacement. Dimensions were : 185 x 50 x 21, draught was 20-2/22-2(22-6) ft. Guns:28-36, 28-18, 28-12, 20-6, 6-4 = 110 (1992 lb.) The crew was 950 men. Version 2 Sophia amalia Deplasement : 2000 tonn Length strings : 165 English fot width: 38.6 fot , 40.3 fot depth : 17.6 fot , 20 fot Beset Ning : 430-680 mann , can have 885 mann Components: 86-108 guns Dannebroge - Danish LineShip 94 Cannons Length 164 ft (51.5 m) Width 42.5 feet ( 13.3 m) Draught 20.5 feet ( 6.4 m) Thats it for now, i hope you enjoyed. There might be historical inaccuracies. Edited October 17, 2016 by Sir_Wiener_Von_Snitzel 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyShelby Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I more than enjoyed it! I loved it! The more information we can find on the ships the better. I would love to have a Danish ship to use as my personal own ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim DeGrim Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) That Dannebroge is beautiful. I don't care it is from 1692...during the 2015 poll, many said it would be outclassed by the later SOL's of 1770-1825... But such a beauty, why wouldn't you sail it out of love? And its story of sacrifice in heroic defense? What's not to love? Edited February 25, 2015 by Grim DeGrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austrum Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 That Dannebroge is beautiful. I don't care it is from 1692...during the 2015 poll, many said it would be outclassed by the later SOL's of 1770-1825... But such a beauty, why wouldn't you sail it out of love? And its story of sacrifice in heroic defense? What's not to love? I agree totally. It isn't all about power in fact for me at least, the entire romance of the Age of Sail centers around how beautiful some of these ships are. Generally I would rather said something that is average in performance but beautiful verse the best ship in the game, if it didn't have as pleasing aesthetics. Also lets face facts, even a Trin can give a Connie a run for its money and I don't think there are many people who would not immediately recognize that the Connie is a better ship. Same will be for any of these older ships, they might not be as good as a say a Victory but they will probably be at least as good as a Bellona or maybe whatever 2nd rates they come up with which means they can still offer meaningful contributions to any fight despite not being the best ship of their rate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Wiener_Von_Snitzel Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Im pretty sure the fredericus Qaurtus with its 110 guns and a good captain would be able to sink the vic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchurkjeBoefje Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Exterior of those ships is way too baroque for me. Goddamn colour explosion. Not to mention those gunports. Ewww. Wasn't there a 18th century Fredericus Something that would be a much better addition to the game? It was in the player selected ship poll. edit: Christian VII, mid 18th century. Fits the timeline a LOT better, looks a LOT better (fine, subjective that). Problem with these 17th century ships is that they *will* be outclassed later on. No doubt about it. Edited February 27, 2015 by SchurkjeBoefje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim DeGrim Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Seems to be the ships that Game Labs wants. From the 2015 player polls, the criteria was: 1600-1830 hard limit 1690-1790 preferred There is obviously a plan for older ships, if you can be sailing one from 1600... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRuyter Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Seems to be the ships that Game Labs wants. From the 2015 player polls, the criteria was: 1600-1830 hard limit 1690-1790 preferred There is obviously a plan for older ships, if you can be sailing one from 1600... Hmm - I thought I read somewhere they were moving to a 1720 time frame for the lower limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim DeGrim Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Being the forum troll that I am, I have not seen it (and the poll collection started very end of Dec 2014...so it would be a very recent change in development plans). Let me know, as it is good to share a common understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Wiener_Von_Snitzel Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Hmm - I thought I read somewhere they were moving to a 1720 time frame for the lower limit? i hope they do, as thats the real "Beautiful Age Of Sail", after the 1800 its was all abourt the quality insted of aesthetic. Witch is understandable, but i like the old ones better. But of course its relative too the viewer, there will always be people like SchukjeBoebje that wont agree. But you cant argue that the detail and craftmanship thats been put into these ships are incredible. Edited February 28, 2015 by mortenlnielsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axralis Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Thank you for sharing this mix with us really nice ships and i hope that for the next ship poll what ship next would be only for the North Europe country s In my opinion they are next in line that developers need to give a little care . They where not just an observers in that time period they where quite involved in world shaping policies of that time and they did have a nice and powerful ships . Further more considering of the knowledge in ship building and naval affairs and navigation through history i really think that the next ship poll will be only of the North Europe Country s (DanNor,Swe primary ) And note that im not from those country s so im not cheering for my domestic ship design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uldo Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 These ships are amazing. Also I think this quote fits in here just perfectly. Here's a Danish database: http://www.orlogsbasen.dk/enkel.htm A lot of the ships have no pictures at the moment, but there are also quite a few that does. For example, here's the frigate "Perlen" built in 1803: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Smith Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Love those ships! Definetly we need more ships from first half of game time frame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunde Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Exterior of those ships is way too baroque for me. Goddamn colour explosion. Not to mention those gunports. Ewww. Wasn't there a 18th century Fredericus Something that would be a much better addition to the game? It was in the player selected ship poll. edit: Christian VII, mid 18th century. Fits the timeline a LOT better, looks a LOT better (fine, subjective that). Problem with these 17th century ships is that they *will* be outclassed later on. No doubt about it. I dont see Fredericus Quartus beigen outclassed by much, 110 guns, that thing will surely give anything a run for its money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Wiener_Von_Snitzel Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Also i think the game need more 1st rate ships, becaus already many have reach the santi, and alot of the excitement (for me atleast) was unlocking new ships. Edited March 3, 2015 by mortenlnielsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Also i think the game need more 1st rate ships, becaus already many have reach the santi, and alot of the excitement (for me atleast) was unlocking new ships. I'm going to have to disappoint you. The object of the game is not about unlocking ship, in fact, the Sea Trials (battle arena) are only build to allow the testing of the ships. The unlocking by earning damage points is build so that each ship gets enough testing time, instead of everybody jumping straight for the Victory. At this point in time, it is unknown how you get access to ships in the open world. ~Brigand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Wiener_Von_Snitzel Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'm going to have to disappoint you. The object of the game is not about unlocking ship, in fact, the Sea Trials (battle arena) are only build to allow the testing of the ships. The unlocking by earning damage points is build so that each ship gets enough testing time instead of everybody jumping straight for the Victory. At this point in time, it is unknown how you get access to ships in the open world. ~Brigand By unlocking i mean getting better ships by progressing in the game, i really hope you gonna still keep that aspect of the game. It donest matter if its with damage XP/ money and portbusiness or whatever. Just so we wont only see first rate. And if your ship sink, you should lose it. Because right now, many have unlocked the santi, and therefore dont care if they get xp or sink quick in battles. So they just charge in and ram as many ship as they can, witch can be kinda annyiong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 By unlocking i mean getting better ships by progressing in the game, i really hope you gonna still keep that aspect of the game. It donest matter if its with damage XP/ money and portbusiness or whatever. Just so we wont only see first rate. And if your ship sink, you should lose it. Because right now, many have unlocked the santi, and therefore dont care if they get xp or sink quick in battles. So they just charge in and ram as many ship as they can, witch can be kinda annyiong. First of all, I'm not part of the development team, I'm just a volunteer keeping an eye on the forums. From what I have been able to piece together about the Open World is that the economy will play a role in it. How you would acquire a ship is also not clear yet. Maybe you get assigned one from the admiralty based on your track record (in which case you maybe you could loose your rank?) maybe some other method will be thought out, we simply don't know. There have been definite hints that you will loose your ship when she sinks and won't magically reappear in port (but nothing has been confirmed either). In any case, the idea seems to be that if you loose your ship, it will hurt. ~Brigand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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