Looneynl Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Started off with me sailing a 3rd rate, backing off sailing true neutral waters and this vic started to engagae. 1 vs 1 okeej i dont mind. ended up with a santi joining, then a Connie and a pavel and also a pavel waiting outside the battle for me to get out.After that i got back into my free port, where i helped some of my fellow pirates out with getting some kills, then heard they are waiting outside the battle for us to come out and then it all started.i asked my friend to engage them one's just so i can get the chance to get out, cause it was the same setup of enemie's waiting outside waiting for me to be visable so they could gank me.The screenshots will tell the rest of the story.after i got away, they started to engage my friends that were in a renomee, privateer and even one in a merc (and they were target by the santi/pavel and victory. they will post there screenshots after i posted this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swheels1242 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Trinidads, Vics and Pavels hunting and chasing things even as low as privateers and yachts. Edited November 21, 2015 by swheels1242 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I don't think this is tribunal material? What you are saying is you tried to split them and it backfired and then you made the mistake of calling reinforcements which inflates your side's BR with useless AI but more enemy players can join The problem is that any kind of BR limit + reinforcement system can and will be gamed and (imho) should be scrapped entirely; Vic+Santi BR is way too low which exacerbates the problem but the players didn't do anything wrong from what I can see. They didn't even have someone from your own faction join your side to increase BR enough so their friends can get in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looneynl Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 As we are waiting moderators aproval for the other side of the story(wich is why the post was made) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looneynl Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 I don't think this is tribunal material? What you are saying is you tried to split them and it backfired and then you made the mistake of calling reinforcements which inflates your side's BR with useless AI but more enemy players can join The problem is that any kind of BR limit + reinforcement system can and will be gamed and (imho) should be scrapped entirely; Vic+Santi BR is way too low which exacerbates the problem but the players didn't do anything wrong from what I can see. They didn't even have someone from your own faction join your side to increase BR enough so their friends can get in. And no, the vic engaged me outside> i send my snow escort to retreat, so none could join, but the Santi joined therefor i had the idea of lets call in some reinforcments, and get that vic of my butt(wich didnt work as intented) after 50 mins of kiting, they managed to get me afterall, regardless of that. i got ported to the port closest, and decided to switch ships as i just ranked up so i could finaly fully crew the st pavel, and helped some friends level up wich were struggeling to get there honor kills made. so we engaged a lonely frigate , wich i demast. meanwhile the russians in question from the attack earlier were camping the battle outside(as they were watching my stream appearently. so then the camping /ganking started. but the persons that got ganked(vic/santi/pavel vs privateer etc) the guys cant post any screenshots as we await Moderator aproval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looneynl Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Die, you rebel scum! This has no constructive feedback regarding the topic, just buzz off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 1. Solo ship of the line with no escort is an easy target.2. reinforcement should not change BR allowing additional people to join. its probably a new (old) bug.3. due to lots of advanced thinking required and no cheats ships of the line AI actually is a lot weaker than low ships. That's why the bigger your ship is the more useful reinforcements are (more difficulty)4. It's a PVP server and people will sink other people. Especially if you are a pirate. But i see a bright side.. Seems like you 4 are a nice tight group. Practice and soon others will run from you.I would also recommend connecting with other experienced pirate groups to sail with. Contact gamover or top bizzarrly they are nice people. Perhaps there are other good pirate captains. Post here if you are Reinforcement best practices. Call reinforcements if you intend to fight. Reinforcements are somewhat useful if you will stay near them. That's why you will maximize their DPS if you fight. If you plan to run - don't call reinforcement if your path is not through the green zone on the compass. If you path is through the green zone they will be somewhat helpful. (could get 1-2 chain shots in). If your running course is not through the reinforcement spot they will be useless and will only allow entry of others. But in general if you don't plan to fight reinforcements will not help at all. This has no constructive feedback regarding the topic, just buzz off You are the pirate.. many pirates and officers roleplay.I once called pirates criminals . I have a pirate officer and sail with pirates sometimes. Re stream sniping. If you were streaming prepare for more cases like that. Find some pirate friends and make a show out of it. (lots of viewers as battles will be awesome). Or put 10 min delay to visuals or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looneynl Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Doesnt change the fact that the "problem" was those guys attacking "Smaller ships" regardless of being pirate or not, thats seal clubbing and the reason i posted the screen was just to show there names(also made a report about it, and so did they) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I wonder if the captains chased in this image also made a tribunal case Merchant ships and a decrepit fourth rate being chased by SoLs and Frigates. Damn gankers, the lot! 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varaborn Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Let's see from other side. Your friends on Yacht and Renomee attaking me to let you run away. Proof They use game mechanic to let you run. So when they do it it's - normal, when we attack them - it's gank, looks like at one-sided logic) Also when was you hero when you peoples hold ships of the line on yachts and renomee?) So mb it was exploit?) Mb it's you who must be banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looneynl Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Let's see from other side. Your friends on Yacht and Renomee attaking me to let you run away. Proof Screenshot_21-11-2015_17-14-38.png They use game mechanic to let you run. So when they do it it's - normal, when we attack them - it's gank, looks like at one-sided logic) Also when was you hero when you peoples hold ships of the line on yachts and renomee?) First of all, i never attacked a person thats not sailing the same class/br. so you must of mistaken me with some one else.. Second of that, i even helped your "Comrades" Mr essex (when he was in need of assitance when he was about to sink with his merc. and Besides that i was Fleeing, cause you guys seem to have it aimed on me with 2/3 first rates and a 3 rd rate. Also you have gained the location without knowing this by just sailing , therefore it was not fair to start off with. Edited November 21, 2015 by Looneynl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varaborn Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 First of all, i never attacked a person thats not sailing the same class/br. so you must of mistaken me with some one else.. im not say you attack, i sayd that your friend's attack me to save you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Smith Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 There is no point of streaming future Port Battles or even showing on stream current fleet location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlavDeng2 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 There is no point of streaming future Port Battles or even showing on stream current fleet location. Just play with enough stream delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BABAY Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Snow gank my trading rules is not a tribunal, and if you hurt "pirates" at once cried. What are you pirates. Come play for the nation, do not disgrace the pirates) Edited November 21, 2015 by BABAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Reb Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This is NOT a tribunal case. Your just complaining about a mechanic you don't like because it was used against you. There are plenty of threads dealing with ideas to prevent overwhelming ganks. Visit them. You got ganked. Deal with it. Protect yourself in the future. Level up so you can defend yourself better later. You are a pirate and if you sail through my waters I will attack you every time. I don't care if you are a brig or a Santi. Pirates deserve no mercy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussar Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 pirates raising gank tribunals .. whatever next 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loukhaashj Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This has no constructive feedback regarding the topic, just buzz offWaw u expect being in fights that are always 50÷ / 50÷ chance of winning on both sides...U are a pirqte ffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furyGer Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 we swedish did live with them over weeks.... it's so much fun with victorys in front of your capital waiting for "PVP" fights vs frigates and other ships. we learnd so much and say thanks to them. greetings Fury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf-13 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 If the Pirate goes to court, it must be captured and executed tutzhe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looneynl Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Nothing to do with the fact if im a pirate or not, and you all know it.if i was weaving another nation flag you all would of reacted the same way, so it doesnt add up. we are here testing the game. we all do a part of our testing reports back , and this unsportmanship behaviour isnt tolerated i would say.Pirate,dutch,French,danish,swedish,american nor brit. we all have a code of honor and dont do ganking regardless of the fact. else i would of done my share of seal clubbing wich i wont do nor ever will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussar Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 pirates should be sunk or captured however possible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looneynl Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) pirates should be sunk or captured however possible. This isnt the point, neither does it bring anything to the table at hand Edited November 21, 2015 by Looneynl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hussar Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 lock this drivel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernWolves Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 4 US players were attacked repeatedly by an even larger force of these same guys last night, like 600 guns to 200.This is what they do, it was frowned upon a long time ago, but now it is ok, so you just have to get on with it.We've never made tribunals about this, we just get even In an even fight those guys really aren't that good, we've fought everyone and I'd rank our opponents as British>French>Dutch>Danish, so practice a little and gank them back! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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