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Today in 1776:


In the wake of their embarrassing defeat in New York, the American rebels try to slow the British by sending fireships against the frigates Rose and Phoenix. Both escaped, and continued to harass the retreating American forces.

"The Phoenix and the Rose Engaged by the Enemy's Fire Ships and Galleys on the 16th Augst 1776," Dominic Serres, 1778, National Archives (US).
Edited by William the Drake
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You do realize that they did not surrender to the British.  If you read the article you hyperlinked, it says that the surrender was accepted in the name of the Prince of Orange; coupled with the fact that they were flying the Prince's flag means that it was a Batavian fleet that surrendered to a Dutch Republic fleet (compromised of British and Russians).

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If you lived in Paraguay from 1864 to 1870 you might feel differently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguayan_War

 

Of course if you happened to be an Aztec during the Spanish Conquest your answer would surely be different assuming you were part of the less than 20% of the remaining population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec

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There is no question we've become more efficient at killing soldiers over time. One of the things that's easy to forget is that we've also become more efficient at not killing non-combatants. It's true that Serbia lost a high percentage of it's males of military age, The Aztecs lost at least 80% of its total population. It's also true that as horrific as that is that is entire civilisations were wiped out in other wars.

 

I don't think there is a way to quantify what the worst war ever was. On a large scale the world wars of course did incredible amounts of damage. But when you begin to look at smaller scales the local affects of war may seem even more awful if you are a member of the group that suffers due to it.

 

As an example consider the Navajo. Prior to the long walk  There were approximately 25,000 Navajo after the return there were roughly 2,000 of reproductive age. Geneticists have since determined that this created a genetic bottleneck within the Navajo population leading to a much higher rate of the disease xeroderma pigmentosum within that population. (1 per 1 million in the general U.S. population, 1 in 30,000 in Navajo populations). I'm not Navajo and certainly do not speak for them, but it is very difficult for me to see any given war that carries such long term affects to be less worse then ww2.

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