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Some info on the russian dudes:

Matija Zmajevic - he was more like a shipbuilder but did nothing of significance as an admiral, I would add Fyodor Apraksin (1661 –1728) instead of him who commanded the russian fleet in the Great Northern War (Battle of Gangut - 1714). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Apraksin

Grigory Spiridov 1713- 1790 (aged 77). Battle of Chesma (1770) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Spiridov

Samuel Greig 1736-1788 (aged 51).  Battle of Hogland (1788) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Greig

Fyodor Ushakov  1745 - 1817 (aged 72),  the most illustrious Russian admiral, without any doubt.

Battles of Fidonisi (1788), Kerch Strait (1790), Tendra (1790), Cape Kaliakra (1791), and the siege of Corfu (1798-1799)  for which he was awarded a chelengk by the Sultan.

Under his command he did not lose a single ship and never lost a battle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Ushakov

Dmitry Senyavin 1763 - 1831 (aged 67). Battle of the Dardanelles, Battle of Athos (1807) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Senyavin

Mikhail Lazarev 1788 – 1851 (aged 62). Battle of Navarino (1827). More famous as an explorer (took part in the discovery of Antarctica)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Lazarev

Pavel Nakhimov 1802 – 1855 (aged 53). Battle of Sinop (1853) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Nakhimov

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I would add Augustus Keppel to the British list though not as notary as Nelson he served a long and illustrious career 1725-1786 61 years. He joined age 10 and after 5 years he was sent on Lord Ansons trip to circumnavigate the globe returning a acting Lieutenant. Promoted to commander then post captain he later had the privilege of leading the line at The battle of Quiberion Bay. He spent time in the Caribbean and the Mediterranean.

But nelson is and always will be britains best Admiral sadly cut down in his prime.

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Perhaps you could also add these Danish admirals too -

 

Herluf Trolle - 1516-1565

Christen Thomesen Sehested - 1664-1736
Steen Andersen Bille - 1751-1833 (81 years old)
 
Also, I know he's a bit outside the time frame, but the Austrian Wilhelm von Tegetthoff, 1827-1871 (43 years old), really deserves a mention as one of the greatest admirals of the 19th century.
 
Perhaps you could also add Willem Joseph van Ghent (1626-1672) for the Netherlands.
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Some info on the russian dudes:

Matija Zmajevic - he was more like a shipbuilder but did nothing of significance as an admiral, I would add Fyodor Apraksin (1661 –1728) instead of him who commanded the russian fleet in the Great Northern War (Battle of Gangut - 1714). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Apraksin

Grigory Spiridov 1713- 1790 (aged 77). Battle of Chesma (1770) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Spiridov

Samuel Greig 1736-1788 (aged 51).  Battle of Hogland (1788) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Greig

Fyodor Ushakov  1745 - 1817 (aged 72),  the most illustrious Russian admiral, without any doubt.

Battles of Fidonisi (1788), Kerch Strait (1790), Tendra (1790), Cape Kaliakra (1791), and the siege of Corfu (1798-1799)  for which he was awarded a chelengk by the Sultan.

Under his command he did not lose a single ship and never lost a battle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Ushakov

Dmitry Senyavin 1763 - 1831 (aged 67). Battle of the Dardanelles, Battle of Athos (1807) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Senyavin

Mikhail Lazarev 1788 – 1851 (aged 62). Battle of Navarino (1827). More famous as an explorer (took part in the discovery of Antarctica)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Lazarev

Pavel Nakhimov 1802 – 1855 (aged 53). Battle of Sinop (1853) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Nakhimov

You obiusly just read the first 2 row the post and and concluded that he was a shipbuilder not a naval captain ... well you couldnt be more wrong.

He was first a naval war captain then second at later age a shipbuilder and he was a succesfull ship builder mostly becouse he was an awsome captain with lots of experience in battle when at the time that tsar plea to him that he comes to Russia and be and Admiral later Vice Admiral wich is the higest rank in Russian navy at that time . It is clear that he would not get that kind of rank just for building ships for tsar and if you say he was mainly a ship builder then why would the tsar send his young promising captains to him to teach him naval warfare and naval combat.

He didnt sent his shipbuilder s to him so that he teaches them shipbuilding .

The truth is that at the time that tsar plea to him that he comes to the country Russian navy was the youngest navy in Europe with allmoust no experience in naval warfare or shipbuilding tells you something.

Further more he is as i said primary a naval war captain then a shipbuilder wich noone of your proposing admirals has those quality they are just naval captains/Admirals wich give you a conslusion that hes well rounded sea dog in every aspect .

 

And at last he was the only one a non Russian naval admiral ever in history to this day  that got a Order of Alexander Nevsky wich is a higest Russian decoration ever to be given to a foreigner outside of Russia wich speak for it self .

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Well, first of all I agree that  Zmajevic probably deserved to be in the list for his great service for the Imperial Russian Navy (and was excluded by my mistake). You are wrong about the ranks though, as the highest rank in the IRN was General admiral, than Admiral, than Vice-Admiral. Vice-admiral cannot be higher than admiral as the prefix vice- means a deputy, someone who takes the place of someone else.

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Well, first of all I agree that  Zmajevic probably deserved to be in the list for his great service for the Imperial Russian Navy (and was excluded by my mistake). You are wrong about the ranks though, as the highest rank in the IRN was General admiral, than Admiral, than Vice-Admiral. Vice-admiral cannot be higher than admiral as the prefix vice- means a deputy, someone who takes the place of someone else.

Your are right i did a mistake when writing my post Vice admiral is one lower rank then Admiral and to be whorse i did know that but i write it down wrong.

Clearly my mistake and i apologize sir Alex.

But for Genaral Admiral i did know at all and i didnt come across of that rank even beeing mention in this time frame that we are speaking off,maybe it is a later developed rank , But then again maybe its just me not hearin or reading about it and you are right about it once again my apologizes sir.

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Will fire another curve-ball in their,

 

Admiral Sir Josias Rowley - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Josias_Rowley,_1st_Baronet

 

Won an extremely difficult campaign against the French in Mauritius (Ile De France) despite some heroically inept actions of his Captains. This is despite being heavily outnumbered and outgunned AND operating in the middle of the Indian ocean during Hurricane season.

 

Would echo some of the comments about Nelson, i accept he is probably the greatest Admiral ever and won some stunning victories, however he was commanding fleets of the some of the most effective warships ever to sail the sea's against morally and technically inferior (if not numerically) inferior opponents.

 

Also worth pointing out that Sir Cuthbert Collingwood was in command for the majority of the battle of Trafalgar, albeit implementing Nelsons tactics.

 

Nelson is one of my biggest Hero's but he had a lot of advantages.

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I guess I'll just add the dates of the Spanish admirals.

 

Blas de Lezo - 1689-1741

Cosme Damián Churruca - 1761-1805

Dionisio Alcalá Galiano - 1760-1805

Ignacio María de Álava - 1750-1817 (66 years old)

Federico Gravina - 1756-1806 (49 years old)

Álvaro de Bazán - 1526-1588(61 years old)

Antonio Gaztañeta - 1656-1728

Jorge Juan - 1713-1773

Juan Ruiz de Apodaca - 1754-1835(80 years old)

Cosme Damián Churruca y Elorza - This is the exact same guy as the 2nd on the list.

Antonio Barceló y Pont de la Terra - 1717-1797

Juan Leon Fandiño - Couldn't find any info on this guy.

 

I think there are some of these admirals who don't qualify as great. Antonio Gaztañeta in particular, he's only really known for losing the battle of Cape Passaro. He was a good shipbuilder, but I don't see him as a great admiral.

 

Oh, and you made a small typo. It's "Steen" not "Steed" in Steen Andersen Bille.  :D

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