HachiRoku Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hethwill the Harmless said: No. I find stuff by total accident. True story. Google "Rocco you test" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crusty Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, Hethwill the Harmless said: Test. Do not give it in easy Crusty. Test and test more. I totally unboxed the free one we all received. I played with it in the Patrol Zone but ultimately lost it in a Port Battle at Little Harbor that had all Le Requins on each side. I admit that I do not like the ship. I believe along with the majority of players that it is bad for the game. I will not buy a bad product of the game just because I like the game. A DLC ship should be unique but not overpowered. I know you think it is not, but an overwhelming majority of players thinks it is. Ultimately, because of this ship (notice that even though players think the Hercules is OP it does not receive anywhere close to the amount of negative feelings that the Le Requin does ) the game has a greater chance of failing than succeeding. The poll results make that very obvious.the majority of players in the world do not want a P2W game and the opinion of a majority of the players is that the Le Requin is just that. In a couple of other threads I had you guys quoting me and saying show proof. You see the poll results but still will not see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4ys Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Old Crusty said: the amount of negative feelings that the Le Requin does pls list what gives you bad feelings like.... It can sail upwind and deny kill it has 250 crew and gives my 230 surprise challenge in boarding ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Old Crusty said: You see the poll results but still will not see. I do see that there's opinions, there's lies, and there's facts. You cannot have two of those together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crusty Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hethwill the Harmless said: I do see that there's opinions, there's lies, and there's facts. You cannot have two of those together. What does that matter? If people will quit the game or not buy it in the first place because of the opinions of the ship, what does it matter? Right , wrong, truth, and lies matter nothing if the game will fail because of that ship, or for that matter future OP DLC ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crusty Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, z4ys said: pls list what gives you bad feelings like.... It can sail upwind and deny kill it has 250 crew and gives my 230 surprise challenge in boarding ... Why bother? The opinion of the majority has been written all over these Forums for all to see. If you ignore them, you will ignore what I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 It does matter a lot. I wish we could have two mast xebecs as well in the future. Even the Continental Navy ones as a DLC pack. That would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4ys Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Old Crusty said: Why bother? The opinion of the majority has been written all over these Forums for all to see. If you ignore them, you will ignore what I say. All i read was mimimi i was sunk. So pls be the first to add something usefull Edited September 10, 2018 by z4ys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Old Crusty said: Why bother? The opinion of the majority has been written all over these Forums for all to see. If you ignore them, you will ignore what I say. For centuries almost if not all mankind called to a poll would vote that Earth is flat. But reality and truth are not democratic. And indeed Earth keeps being spherical. Opinion, impressions and feelings have nothing to share with facts. Someones replied to your critics point by point, letter by letter. Can you explain a reasonable and meaningful analysis of strenghts and weaknesses of an hunting Requin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crusty Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, z4ys said: All i read was mimimi i was sunk. So pls be the first to add something usefull Yes, skipped the rest. I am done trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Old Crusty said: Yes, skipped the rest. I am done trying. No. You skipped the rest. Already did a question to you. Be so kind to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crusty Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Licinio Chiavari said: For centuries almost if not all mankind called to a poll would vote that Earth is flat. But reality and truth are not democratic. And indeed Earth keeps being spherical. Opinion, impressions and feelings have nothing to share with facts. Someones replied to your critics point by point, letter by letter. Can you explain a reasonable and meaningful analysis of strenghts and weaknesses of an hunting Requin? You just can’t see past your own views. What you want me to list is all over the Forums and frankly all that matters is it has hurt the game instead of improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Old Crusty said: You just can’t see past your own views. What you want me to list is all over the Forums and frankly all that matters is it has hurt the game instead of improve it. No. I asked you not impressions. But facts. How did you get boarded? How were you boarded? What did you do? And the Requin? This kind of stuff. You for example said you can be catched downwind on a squarerigged. A lot of veterans reply It is impossible. So. Narrate us. PS as a trader you should happy of Requins hunting. Because a fast raiding Frigate will catch 99% a trader. Requin, if upwind of the trader... Never. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Old Crusty said: You just can’t see past your own views. What you want me to list is all over the Forums and frankly all that matters is it has hurt the game instead of improve it. Or. Meet for a duel. And I will show you step by step every error you ll do. No ship loss. I can avoid hunting an evening. Call it social work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernon Merrill Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 "Who you gonna believe? Me or your lyin' eyes?"...... Secondly: I would have voted "yes" BEFORE the patch nerfing her badly... But now she is just a specialized pest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4ys Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Old Crusty said: ... all that matters is it has hurt the game Ships with more than 20 broadside guns restrict my choice of ships and hurt my feeling while sailing a lynx.... It hurts me. Now all shallow draft captains lets unite and show the damn SOL captains that their ships have to go. Its all about the POV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, z4ys said: Ships with more than 20 broadside guns restrict my choice of ships and hurt my feeling while sailing a lynx.... It hurts me. Now all shallow draft captains lets unite and show the damn SOL captains that their ships have to go. Its all about the POV. #Z4YS_FOR_PRESIDENT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4ys Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 For all the xebec haters ❤️ Free to use as avatar 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus MacDuff Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 A question that should have been on the poll is...Does the presence of shoals of hunting Xebecs hurt your sense of propriety or your immersion in a Caribbean age of Sail setting? To that I would answer yes! I hate it. It's like having a dung beetle amongst the butterflies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4ys Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said: A question that should have been on the poll is...Does the presence of shoals of hunting Xebecs hurt your sense of propriety or your immersion in a Caribbean age of Sail setting? To that I would answer yes! I hate it. It's like having a dung beetle amongst the butterflies. The US navy used xebecs other nations used it to hunt in the caribbean they were local build ships https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Champion_(1777) https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/v/vessels-of-the-continental-navy.html Edited September 10, 2018 by z4ys 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus MacDuff Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Yes, I get that there would have been one or two xebecs in the Caribbean. There were not the percentage of them that we see in our game. They were not successful in our waters and that is why the majority of ships in our waters were "European rigs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethwill Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Repulse was a Xebec as well and defended Philadelphia. Was burnt, not to fall into English hands, after the fall of Forts Mifflin and Mercer. Spanish had a tradition on lateens, same as french. I suspect ship builders were free to travel to a location and then use their knowledge there to build whatever models were ordered ? From barques longues to whatever sizes the deep ports allow. BTW how many SOL capable naval bases harbours were in the Caribbean ? How many Shipyard really capable of building frigates and bigger.. ? We going into a interesting avenue here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z4ys Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said: ...would have been one or two xebecs in the Caribbean. ... Just like 1st rates 😉 Pls let us all sail sloops and frigates because that would about be right Edited September 10, 2018 by z4ys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Angus MacDuff said: Yes, I get that there would have been one or two xebecs in the Caribbean. There were not the percentage of them that we see in our game. They were not successful in our waters and that is why the majority of ships in our waters were "European rigs". I would like to remember that the daddy of modern rigging, the bermuda one, was created by some dutch from lateen one... In Bermuda. So a bit some more than a couple were sailing in these waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus MacDuff Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 There were fleet actions in the Caribbean and even some of the big fleets that fought elsewhere passed through. We all know the history. There were not any fleet actions of Lanteen rigged ships. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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