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3 minutes ago, ElricTheTwo said:

If players want to pay for non-performance related items - like paints or changing names, I'm ok with that, but when you introduce pay-to-win to give a competitive advantage in the game, I will not play it anymore.

No one will as it goes against what Developer actually stated. If I can remember right they said no pay to win ever in this game. Decorations, ship shells etc.. yes , but anything that would make other player stronger would be bad. 

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3 minutes ago, Wind said:

No one will as it goes against what Developer actually stated. If I can remember right they said no pay to win ever in this game. Decorations, ship shells etc.. yes , but anything that would make other player stronger would be bad. 

yep.

and a DLC for more outpost space is a strategic advantage over players who don't own the dlc. disguise it all you want, I won't let this slippery slope start here.

 

you want ways to have more money for this game? we've said it many many times as you pointed out, Ship Paints are (were) already in the game. You have to wipe all ships in order for paints to work? fine, do it - it's an alpha game still. People have offered suggestions for options that folks seem more than willing to throw money into this game that is not a "pay to win" feature and yet here we are seemingly at the same problem.

Again, I'm all glad the UI patch is coming along and that we will get multiple fixes, changes, and maybe new ships, but even if I'm happy about that, you put a P2W feature in and I'll pass.

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7 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

yep.

and a DLC for more outpost space is a strategic advantage over players who don't own the dlc. disguise it all you want, I won't let this slippery slope start here.

We had this DLC in the game for the last 3 years, it's called alts and it costs 40$/euro

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Not only Admin is back, but me too.

I just recently ended my 1.4 year break from Naval Action and once again enjoy it. Having played during the Sea Trials, my honour was at stake during the tutorials and (after 2 trys) completed endurance and then (aka 10+ trys and two videos😁) the Final Exam.

I just want to leave this short phrase here: I returned, because this game just has too much potential to ignore and I want to support the developing team as this is not an easy task.

Keep up the work and all the best, lads

BlueEagleGER

 

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@admin

Im glad you are back. I thought you were tired of us :)

 

Can you please make a post with all the incoming changes, fixes, improvements, contents... of the new patch?

Id love this post so we can see what is coming and discuss about it. Maybe we can make together a nice new patch that encourages people to come back.

 

 

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Yea I’m not so sure about this dockspace DLC.  Seems preposterous to me that an unreleased game even has DLCs and early access testers need to pay to test in other nations.... but whatever.

I’m fine paying for cosmetics or even premium ships as they require more effort than changing a couple zeros.  This is a pure and simple cash grab and I’m not enthused.  

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Admin, 

Glad to have you back. Enjoy those elders all you can while they are alive. They are a treasure. Learn their history and pass it on to your children. I have great memories of mine and was blessed to have a complete set of great grand parents born at the end of the American Civil War. Such wonderful first hand knowledge. Kick started my passion for history. 

Fair sailing all. 

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59 minutes ago, ElricTheTwo said:

If players want to pay for non-performance related items - like paints or changing names, I'm ok with that, but when you introduce pay-to-win to give a competitive advantage in the game, I will not play it anymore.

To me it seems more convenient to use than having an alt (which I don't have because I don't want to be bothered with having two steam account and I don't know what else).

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2 hours ago, Wind said:

This will give you an idea. Comparing 2 games NA price should be -50% less when compared to AAA titles. This is just what I would spend based on content and game health in NA. 

I would say $3.99 would get you +6 warehouse slots, +1 outposts +2 ship space. This would be an honest deal for me. 

They need to add dock expansion and limit existing quantity. Ships that would not fit give as redeemables back to players. 

Let's see what Devs say. 

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/750_crowns?_ga=2.90511514.1696325148.1528304551-1159788484.1528304551&_gac=1.15478402.1528304551.EAIaIQobChMIq7_L5cG_2wIVmI-zCh0iMQztEAAYASAAEgK39PD_BwE

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/1500_crowns?_ga=2.108927106.1696325148.1528304551-1159788484.1528304551&_gac=1.2941572.1528304551.EAIaIQobChMIq7_L5cG_2wIVmI-zCh0iMQztEAAYASAAEgK39PD_BwE

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store/product/5500_crowns?_ga=2.108927106.1696325148.1528304551-1159788484.1528304551&_gac=1.2941572.1528304551.EAIaIQobChMIq7_L5cG_2wIVmI-zCh0iMQztEAAYASAAEgK39PD_BwE

https://eu.shop.battle.net/de-de/family/world-of-warcraft

Regarding prices 😉 That aint cheap as well. Nation change is a gamechanger so 19,99€ looks okish to me. Ofc i woudnt mind it to be cheaper but actually is ok.

 

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7 minutes ago, Capt Jubal Early said:

lol w/e's its the same as buying alts. Who cares.

Actually it’s not.   

An alt requires you to pay full price for the privilege, requires you to juggle multiple instances of the game and get that character to the necessary locations.  It also requires you to go through the expense of opening the outpost slots and dockspace.  In short it requires effort. Players with appropriately positioned alts spent the time to do so, rather than clicking a button and swiping a card.  

This is pay to gain a competitive edge.  Using alts is paying for the access to work for a competitive edge.  I’m not necessary ok with either, but there is a lesser of two weevils here 

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I bought the dlc a few months ago to support the development of the game (and I don't intend to use is) as I did buy the other games I barely play. It's way cheaper anyway than all the other games I have played... I'm over 2 years and an half in now.

But as some others have pointed out... If I was the one in charge, I would ban all the alts and have only dlc for cosmetic stuffs, but I'm not in charge and I don't think that the alts will go away by themselves so I welcome the dlc giving more docking space.

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There are real premium items to be sold for cash. I don't think outposts are one of them. Why not let us buy more outposts for gold and use the DLC for something else? I feel like this would be a bad look for NA. Go to the store page and you see a bunch of micro-DLC, I avoided payday 2 for that reason. If it's not too late I would recommend you hold off selling outpost slots. What if you want to change the number of outposts or how they function? You can't without upsetting people who've bought the DLC. I wan't to see player enterprise where you can buy any amount of buildings/outposts but pay tax on them, I don't like being hardlocked on outposts/buildings/perks because it seems unfinished. Not everyone is gonna see it this way but dock space as DLC smells like a F2P microtransaction.

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27 minutes ago, Slim McSauce said:

dock space as DLC smells like a F2P microtransaction.

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Lol, slim. You don't want them to sell anything useful, no true prem ships, no slots... Look how people avoid all those games that sell stuff that people actually want.

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4 hours ago, admin said:

Admiralty Connection premium DLC will be added to the store (giving more warehouse space and more outposts).

Good to hear but please keep the bonus rather minor ( maybe +4 outposts and +50% warehouse space ) and nothing too extreme like doubling it... I would prefer it to be for people who want to support the game and devs, rather than buying a straight advantage... the road to pay2win is a slippery slope. I will buy everything to support the game and you but I prefer cosmetic and prestige type DLCs like balanced unique ships and paintjobs.

Also welcome back, good Sir. I hope you enjoyed the time with your grandmother.

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Maybe add more dock space  aswell as warehouse and outpost. Also, its not that bad, people who badly want the space have alts, so the DLC is almost a step to getting rid of the needs of alt accounts.

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Just imagine the cash waterfall if they begin to sell ship customization: clan flags, sails, bowfigures, ship paints, ship schemes...

If we need a wipe of ships to support the development of the game, go ahead. In the long term, we will win more than we lose cause the extra cash could be invested in making NA a better game.

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3 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

Just imagine the cash waterfall if they begin to sell ship customization: clan flags, sails, bowfigures, ship paints, ship schemes...

If we need a wipe of ships to support the development of the game, go ahead. In the long term, we will win more than we lose cause the extra cash could be invested in making NA a better game.

That's totally true. Everybody wants his/her majesty own ship.

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I thought the next patch was going to help reduce the need for additional warehouse space by removing all the intermediate craft items.

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2 hours ago, Teutonic said:

yep.

and a DLC for more outpost space is a strategic advantage over players who don't own the dlc. disguise it all you want, I won't let this slippery slope start here.

 

you want ways to have more money for this game? we've said it many many times as you pointed out, Ship Paints are (were) already in the game. You have to wipe all ships in order for paints to work? fine, do it - it's an alpha game still. People have offered suggestions for options that folks seem more than willing to throw money into this game that is not a "pay to win" feature and yet here we are seemingly at the same problem.

Again, I'm all glad the UI patch is coming along and that we will get multiple fixes, changes, and maybe new ships, but even if I'm happy about that, you put a P2W feature in and I'll pass.

I agree completely and would also like to point out that opposed to what others have said, it is not the same as buying a alt account. Imagine a 30 player clan with this DLC vs a 30 player clan without. One clan has everyone with all their skillbooks and ships ready in more locations than the other. Also a alt costs significantly more than the DLC ( I hope at least... ) and requires you to level up and buy all skillbooks etc. again, making it much less effective at using the outpost slots strategically.

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12 hours ago, Christoph said:

in germany 19.99 € very expensive! i can buy a complete good game for this 

9.99 is ok but not for 2 outpost slots

I haven't checked the McDonnald price, but 19.99  is cheap. It is an online game. 

 

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I like almost everything about this patch, but I must add my voice to those who would prefer giving everybody the additional slots and using ship customization, paints, and well balanced premium ships to fund the game.

Best wishes to your grandmother!

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1 hour ago, Capt Aerobane said:

I like almost everything about this patch, but I must add my voice to those who would prefer giving everybody the additional slots and using ship customization, paints, and well balanced premium ships to fund the game.

Best wishes to your grandmother!

but... we don't even know what is in it for sure

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