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Ich schreibe in deutsch als 2 stärkste kaufkraft ich mir die Freiheit (mein Englisch saugt) !!! Das ist nur eine große Sache, aber wie ist das mit dem neuen Gerät zu halten.Diese bis 5 Rate ist sowieso xp gebuden und ein Spieler der zb 1 Jahr spielt und max xp hat genirst das spezielle schutz nichtmehr.und hats Sowieso im Spiel egal Krieg Mann macht.bitte übersetzen ))))

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Once more an update takes too long. I have used all the materials I can, my docks are full. No point building more since there insufficient detail has been provided and it looks like making anything other than ships or upgrades is wasted effort but it is impossible to guess what to do - so do nothing. Just waiting now. Opening slots in ships. Not trading. not fighting. Just waiting. It's not worth playing since there is insufficient detail coming from the devs to plan any course of action and grinding slots is less interesting than doing the housework. Come on devs - the game is dead until the update.

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2 hours ago, Wynkyn de Worde said:

Once more an update takes too long. I have used all the materials I can, my docks are full. No point building more since there insufficient detail has been provided and it looks like making anything other than ships or upgrades is wasted effort but it is impossible to guess what to do - so do nothing. Just waiting now. Opening slots in ships. Not trading. not fighting. Just waiting. It's not worth playing since there is insufficient detail coming from the devs to plan any course of action and grinding slots is less interesting than doing the housework. Come on devs - the game is dead until the update.

You can still trade trading goods in empty seas, so its pretty safe right now to do it. 

You can still provide content by enjoying one of the bigger capital safezones for pvp/ganking/counterganking.

You can still do pve.

Its up to you.

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I thought this was about material wipe.....

Again

It comes when it comes.  These are adult developers not screaming kids.

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Ho hum. I can keep harvesting Gold and Silver Ore I suppose. But will they be wiped out and my effort wasted and uncompensated - who knows? If the devs do they're not telling us.

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On 6/13/2018 at 9:54 AM, AeRoTR said:

@victor yes but gold coin is crafted with gold ingots and coal. So it is weird they are being converted only into coal, which means gold/silver can be removed.

It's not weird if you assume that they are converted only into coal because gold/silver will be removed.

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2 hours ago, victor said:

It's not weird if you assume that they are converted only into coal because gold/silver will be removed.

I have seen nothing from the devs saying that gold and silver mines or ore will be removed. In fact, they were mentioning a new building; a mint. I'll bet it's not going to make coinage out of fir or oak logs. "It's not weird if you assume" they don't want to hand players resources for the mint either. Pity we are all left 'assuming' when they could just tell us what the plan is (presuming they know).

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17 minutes ago, Wynkyn de Worde said:

I have seen nothing from the devs saying that gold and silver mines or ore will be removed

As already posted on the previous page:

On 4/19/2018 at 9:05 PM, admin said:
  • Old legacy coins and ingots removal
    • Current Gold Coins and Silver Coins will be removed from game (you can start dumping them or use for craft if you have huge stocks) and stocks left will be compensated at denominated prices
    • Current gold ingots and silver ingots will be removed from game and mines will be removed (and building costs compensated) 

 

No mention of ore though.

 

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3 hours ago, Archer11 said:

As already posted on the previous page:

No mention of ore though.

 

Ok I missed the mines being wiped. But gold and silver ore are not mentioned. Why don't the devs simply tell us the plan? It is because some players with that knowlegde will be at an advantage? What not tell everyone what is going to happen? We are cannon fodder, PVP prey and testers in an Early Release Alpha game right? Well I WILL NEVER EVER EVER AGAIN PARTICIPATE IN AN EARLY RELEASE SCAM. Two years of early release! I am a professional software developer and the most difficult project I have ever worked on was a cash management system for POS - real time updates of terminals, 500K transactions per minute and it took 18 months. This game should be flying missions to Mars by now.

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I'm also a software developer and I suspect you didn't have a few thousand people with differing opinions telling what you'd done wrong in your system every 5 minutes and you also didn't try to make it work exactly the way an old 18th century cash register worked whilst also able to take credit cards....You probably also had a team of more than 2.

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26 minutes ago, Wynkyn de Worde said:

Ok I missed the mines being wiped. But gold and silver ore are not mentioned. Why don't the devs simply tell us the plan? It is because some players with that knowlegde will be at an advantage? What not tell everyone what is going to happen? We are cannon fodder, PVP prey and testers in an Early Release Alpha game right? Well I WILL NEVER EVER EVER AGAIN PARTICIPATE IN AN EARLY RELEASE SCAM. Two years of early release! I am a professional software developer and the most difficult project I have ever worked on was a cash management system for POS - real time updates of terminals, 500K transactions per minute and it took 18 months. This game should be flying missions to Mars by now.

Dood, relax. Sure, it's taking a while but so what?  As it stands its an awesome game for the historic period.  You're not really cannon fodder as its not real bullets.  Breathe.....

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32 minutes ago, Wynkyn de Worde said:

Ok I missed the mines being wiped. But gold and silver ore are not mentioned. Why don't the devs simply tell us the plan? It is because some players with that knowlegde will be at an advantage? What not tell everyone what is going to happen? We are cannon fodder, PVP prey and testers in an Early Release Alpha game right? Well I WILL NEVER EVER EVER AGAIN PARTICIPATE IN AN EARLY RELEASE SCAM. Two years of early release! I am a professional software developer and the most difficult project I have ever worked on was a cash management system for POS - real time updates of terminals, 500K transactions per minute and it took 18 months. This game should be flying missions to Mars by now.

The Devs have said many times that they have achieved and surpassed what was originally intended for this game. They did this after listening to the players and trying to give them what they want. Yes, I agree they may have made some mistakes by listening and trying to implement some of what players have suggested but when you compare it to a project you have done where you had set goals and well defined outcomes and targets then it bears no resemblance. By your measure they would have released this game a couple of years ago with less than half the ships we now have and no open world play and they would have achieved their initial goals successfully.

Its an early access game where it is clearly stated that the game may change significantly and the final product may be totally different from what was originally described. You accepted this when you started playing and to tell the truth there have not been as many wipes as I would have expected in such testing.

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46 minutes ago, Wynkyn de Worde said:

Ok I missed the mines being wiped. But gold and silver ore are not mentioned. Why don't the devs simply tell us the plan? It is because some players with that knowlegde will be at an advantage? What not tell everyone what is going to happen? We are cannon fodder, PVP prey and testers in an Early Release Alpha game right? Well I WILL NEVER EVER EVER AGAIN PARTICIPATE IN AN EARLY RELEASE SCAM. Two years of early release! I am a professional software developer and the most difficult project I have ever worked on was a cash management system for POS - real time updates of terminals, 500K transactions per minute and it took 18 months. This game should be flying missions to Mars by now.

Lol. Here a link for you. It is on first page of this thread :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wskSxkK0nJXCQ-Z-DxJcVFXu_ztPKo0huf4SUHbKQ24/edit#gid=0

This one is only for such players like you :)

 

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They could wipe it entirely and start us out again in a basic cutter and I would be fine if there was new stuff on it.  I'm an addict.

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13 minutes ago, Oberon74 said:

They should could wipe it entirely

There ! Fixed it for ya ;) 

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1 hour ago, Frya Fresena [Ostfriesius] said:

hey, please can you tell me if our gold (as a means of payment) remains after the wipe or will our gold be deleted? Thanks for the information ...

In-game currency won't be wiped but denominated, e.g. you currently have 1000 of gold (currency), after the patch you will have 20 of new currency (just an example). All prices (ships, modules etc.) will also be updated to match denomination.

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35 minutes ago, Wynkyn de Worde said:

There were just two of us. But we listened to the users of the system and delivered a product that met their requirements. These guys are amateurs. Sorry, but the design decisions they make SUCK big time. My physical memory usage is running at 4Gb for 1 instance of client.exe. Are you kidding. These devs SUCK.

I dont care if you are a software developper.

But I can tell your comments suck and makes you look as a fool. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

I dont care if you are a software developper.

But I can tell your comments suck and makes you look as a fool. 

 

That guy = *sshole material. Banned.
 

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4 hours ago, Hethwill said:

There ! Fixed it for ya ;) 

Not sure I can stand to grind through the ships again though but wealth wise wipe away.  That something I can easily make up from a basic cutter level and some time.

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4 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

Not sure I can stand to grind through the ships again though but wealth wise wipe away.  That something I can easily make up from a basic cutter level and some time.

They haven't said they're going to do that. I was just saying I wouldn't care.  Actually I would love it.  All the high ranking admirals with all the great stuff would be on my level..   

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Please lord no, if i have to spend all those 100's of hours again to get where im at now?? No way im doing that again..ill just leave right away, love this game but please no...

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*chuckles*

Don't worry, your Rank and Crafting XP are 99.99% safe on release :) taking from devs posts from before.

In any case, seems like NA might be the first EA or Testing you've done.

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4 hours ago, Hethwill said:

*chuckles*

Don't worry, your Rank and Crafting XP are 99.99% safe on release :) taking from devs posts from before.

In any case, seems like NA might be the first EA or Testing you've done.

And you forgot ship knowledge as they added that to the list of things we will get upon release.

 

4 hours ago, Oberon74 said:

They haven't said they're going to do that. I was just saying I wouldn't care.  Actually I would love it.  All the high ranking admirals with all the great stuff would be on my level..   

It doesn't take long to get things back, but I would actually love a dang port wipe to clean house of all those clans owning ports that aren't active but have so much money in bank they can keep paying for them and well some ports that was taking cause of bad mechanics or dead clans dropping ports.

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