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Fleet Practice:

Why is the button to join so often deaktivated? Players looking into missions -> fleet parctice, then see a disabled button and leave immediately.

Only clickable shortly after the switch to the next 5 Minutes timer

 

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9 minutes ago, Navalus Magnus said:

I might need some training in the new „fleet room“ with you than!? 😀

@admin

could you specify how this fleet training rooms works - look to posts from Liqu and myself above!?

I wouldn't mind - I'm all giddy if it works a bit like the duelroom.. which I never really appreciated enough since there were plenty of PvP to be had.. It wasn't untill it was gone and the reinforcementzones screwed PvP'ing up..

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Nice work! It seems quite interesting and while I'm skeptical about the thickness changes if the cannon rework happens quickly enough, and includes a large enough fall-off in penetration such that the mast changes you made here aren't immediately irrelevant, then I could be on board.

Definitely worth testing, and thanks for listening about the need for a "practice" room.

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Where is UI and Tutorial? --

Why is Thickness still unchanged? I feel there must be a real problem for RVR fleets, since many are complaining about it....(Vox populi , vox dei):ph34r: --

Wasa BR increased finally. +

 

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1 hour ago, admin said:

can you use both? i wonder ;)

so basicly the admin says:

-use 5 slots and pay 150 pvp marks and with some luck (do PVE)and  you MAY get a rep bonus which maybe close to formal rep bonuses.

 

And did it sound OK?

 

PS: That rep bonus was separating PVE and PVP players in combat. So we are in a PVP server, why you punishing the PVP players?

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Plz consider bringing back the 22 hours delay for a PB instead of the current 24 hours. 22 hours makes for more uniform and stable gaming sessions all week long instead of an inflation towards later and later hours :)

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3 hours ago, admin said:

Captains

Hotfix is being deployed 

  • Fleet Practice Room added. 
  • Battles will start when there are 10 players in the room. Maximum size of the group is set at 6. Total player in testing room possible is 50. 

This sounds like it will be a very nice addition

3 hours ago, admin said:
  • Caguarian and live oak trees buffed.
    • Live oak and Caguarian woods has received a bonus to mast thickness - 5%
    • Live oak has been buffed both in HP and thickness
    • Caguarian HP was buffed

This is good to hear. The majority of people use Teak/White Oak, but if they want an increase to thickness they need to sacrifice speed to do so.

3 hours ago, admin said:
  • Thickness drop due to damage increased for light builds. This means that if you are sailing fir/cedar ships you will have to start repairing earlier to retain thickness. 

Good to hear.

3 hours ago, admin said:
  • Other tunings
    • Wasa Battle Rating (BR) has been increased to 380

Maybe make it 390? Balance it out with the 3rd Rate and Bellona a bit more. Also would like to see some Battle Rating changes to the other 4th rates as well since none of the 4th rates are alike.

3 hours ago, admin said:
  • Upgrade rework: All upgrades that affect speed/turning and repairs were rebalanced 
    • In general: majority of bonuses to speed, turning, and repair amount and speed were reduced.
    • 2 upgrades that affect boarding has been buffed
      • barricades
      • ladders
    • Final parameters for changed upgrades can be reviewed here in this document (List of changed upgrades and books).

Very good! Alter them to where the mods only give a small bonus rather than a significant one.

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4 hours ago, admin said:

In general: majority of bonuses to speed, turning, and repair amount and speed were reduced.

*nods'

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3 hours ago, admin said:

Thickness was a problem that multiplied because of excessive repairs (28% bonus to repair amount). Current nerfs to repairs will make is significantly better.
+ Live oak makes your ship very slow and it should pay off in survivability. 

The frame is made of one wood, commonly a tough, dense wood which is resistant to rot. Some use cheaper woods, oversized to obtain the same stiffness (and similar weight) to the more common woods.

The outer planking is a wood type commonly chosen for toughness and resistance to rot. Can be different below and above the waterline.
Inner planking varies more. It can have differences below and 'between and above' the ports on each gun deck, and in the Orlop and Hold.

Masts, spars and yards are typically made from low density timbers.

For a typical English built ship these would be;

Frame, Oak
Outerplanking, Oak above, Elm or Oak below the waterline.
Inner planking, Oak in the hold and below each port. Fir between and above the ports.
Decks, pine or fir.

Masts, spars and yards. Spruce, Fir, Birch or Poplar, with Baltic Spruce preferred. Light weight was essential to retain even the indifferent range of stability of a ship, and dimensions were as thin as possible and tapered consistent with carrying of the necessary canvas until typical conditions.

As far as I know, only the Fir-built ships, and the US heavy frigates differed substantially from this formula (with the possible substitution of Teak or Mahogany for the Oak framing and outer planking in Indian and Carribean built vessels). The Fir ships have larger timbers, replacing much of the Oak from the standard design of the same type, and the US frigates use Live Oak for the frame alone.


Penetration into Oak, 12lb 4" shot, 734ft/s 22"
Into Elm, ditto, 29"
Into Fir/Birch, ditto, 40"
Into Poplar, ditto, 43"

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are the fleet practice kills supposed to be appearing in combat news ?   if so, can they not be please ? not helpful or needed

 

any time frame on cannon penning changes, players are worried it will be a long time ..

 

good news and well done on nearly everything :)

 

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Issues with hotfix:

- Combatnews clerk is reporting action of fleet practice leading to false information of player activity

- After I surrendered in a fleet practice I spawned in OW

 

Other Issues:

I lost a part of my main mast (niagara) and the falling mast turned pink (like losing the texture)

@admin + @Ink

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@admin would it be possible to NOT show kills from the Fleet Practice room in the combat news channel? Issues: causes confusion if player kills another player from the same fraction. reveals peoples location of ships if they kill someone in those actions. It's only of minor nature though.

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4 hours ago, admin said:

this will stay until release. as reclassing the ship requires a ship wipe. maybe we will find the way to reclassify it without removing that ship's upgrades.

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WIPE THEM ALL !!!   (wasa)

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@admin

I can see inside you, the thickness is rising
Don't try to deny what you feel
(Will you give in to me?)
It seems that all that was good has died
And is decaying in me
(Will you give in to me?)
It seems you're having some trouble
In dealing with these changes
Living with these changes (oh no)
The world is a scary place
Now that you've woken up the demon in me
Get up, come on get down with the thickness
Get up, come on get down with the thickness
Get up, come on get down with the thickness
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7 hours ago, admin said:

Captains

Hotfix is being deployed 

  • Reinforcement zones no longer supply some rare woods (in particular teak and white oak) which have been moved to nearby capturable regions.
  • NPC suppliers of repairs now supply them at cost + some margin (instead of the cost) to give some opportunities for crafters to compete.
  • Other tunings
    • Wasa Battle Rating (BR) has been increased to 380
  • Upgrade rework: All upgrades that affect speed/turning and repairs were rebalanced 
    • In general: majority of bonuses to speed, turning, and repair amount and speed were reduced.
    • 2 upgrades that affect boarding has been buffed
      • barricades
      • ladders
    • Final parameters for changed upgrades can be reviewed here in this document (List of changed upgrades and books).

Discuss

^.^

:)

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3 hours ago, Lieste said:

snip

Penetration into Oak, 12lb 4" shot, 734ft/s 22"
Into Elm, ditto, 29"
Into Fir/Birch, ditto, 40"
Into Poplar, ditto, 43"

At what range?

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2 hours ago, Jon Snow lets go said:

@admin

I can see inside you, the thickness is rising
Don't try to deny what you feel
(Will you give in to me?)
It seems that all that was good has died
And is decaying in me
(Will you give in to me?)
It seems you're having some trouble
In dealing with these changes
Living with these changes (oh no)
The world is a scary place
Now that you've woken up the demon in me
Get up, come on get down with the thickness
Get up, come on get down with the thickness
Get up, come on get down with the thickness

@Jon Snow lets goPlays Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence  next....with no reply from Admin:D

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19 minutes ago, DeRuyter said:

At what range?

Depends on muzzle velocity ;)

For a gun of 7.5ft (Frigate and 1st rate Qtr deck @ 1536fps for full charge (1/3rd shot weight)):
1100yds full charge, 1000yds first reduce, 875yds second reduce.
Double shot:
475/675 yds for first reduce, 300/525yds for second reduce (second/first ball)

250 for short pattern, 550 long pattern carronade.

Penetration parameters for Poncelet penetration equation derived by Didion for spherical iron shot into various materials (including different types of earth, masonry and brick as well as four different timber types), taken in translation from Bashforth's chronograph experimental report.

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