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[PvP] Spanish clan political situation


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49 minutes ago, Graf Bernadotte said:

How many of your ships entered their home port yesterday? Anyway this was PvP and not war. Don't know who declared war on HAVOC and what the reason is for.

3/4 1st rates returned to Tumbado. 1 Victory and one Bellona sank.

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13 hours ago, Liam790 said:

But where are we to go:/ GB appear to have started ganking MT (Fairly sure by doing so you have all started doing to the pirates what you accused us of doing to you at KPR. But that's an argument for another day).

Ultimately, whatever your issues with us/HAVOC, you cannot accuse us of being unfair. We rarely/never go around and jump into peoples missions in safezones and ruin their day. If we come to KPR / Belize we sit outside and let you gather up and start the fight on your terms. This is because we are only interested in decent fights.

If there was a place to guarantee us somewhat interesting fights elsewhere, we would go there. But there is not as the PvP zone is full of GB lo/wo santi fleets (Looks at Ghostwork...). So for the foreseeable future we will continue gathering up and when you are ready we will fight you.

But do not accuse us of ganking.... when you have the chance to build a fleet and tag us on your terms that makes it just happy OW PvP. A few of the people in GB would do well to remember that rather than saying we ganked them as they sink.


Edit - Most nations would welcome the chance for some PvP to come to them. Maybe next time we come, by all means outnumber us, but when you bring 5 1st rates in a 20 man fleet to kill 3/4 Bellona's it is just pointless. Make it competitive at least and let us all enjoy the game.

Sir, it is neither competitive, nor enjoyable, neither is it fair to be told in battle that you are sacrificial lambs in a personal vendetta against a member of a different clan. I would ask you why, you, as the clan HAVOC, not yourself personally,  chose to fight what a HAVOC member admitted was a personal vendetta under Dutch Colours,  against a clan  that took no part (nor enjoyment) in your departure from GB. We fly the White Ensign and yes we are a legitimate target in war, that is fair, it is not fair to use war or pvp, or another Nations colours to settle personal grudges against an innocent clan, in place of the clan or persons responsible, It brings no honour to the Dutch as a Nation. 

It is truly a sad thing, as, when HAVOC and SALTP get into a fight outside of the confines of PB's or hostility raising,  we can never now be certain as to whether it is in the spirit of competition and enjoyment or if it is an act of vengeance for act(s) allegedly committed by others beyond our control.

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UPDATED

 

The Spanish Faction includes a « Clan confederation » called

El Real Acuerdo de Indias

It's a group of clans that are loyal to each other, act together at war and do strictly respect the confederation rules as well as political issues that are commonly decided.

The Real Acuerdo de Indias includes the following Spanish clans:

FNI ; 7UP ; FLEKI ; VLTRA ; LIBRE ; TEARM ; ARM ; SKYNE ; BEZZ ; NOVA ; GRIJ ; GOE ; LUPUS ; 4PM ; ALU 

 

Current political positionning of our confederation:

 

USA                     ==> Neutral with all clans

Great Britain     ==> At War

Sweeden           ==> At war 

Dutch                ==> Neutral with all clans 

Danemark         ==> At war    

Poland               ==> Neutral with all clans

Prussia             ==> At war 

Russia               ==> Military Alliance                                 

France              ==> Friendly

Pirates             ==> At War 

                                Contract : open to negociation

 

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INFORM OR CORRECT THIS TOPIC TO BE UPDATED. 

 

For any information, clarification or proposal, please visit our TS at : navalaction.ts3.lu

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UPDATED

 

The Spanish Faction includes a « Clan confederation » called

El Real Acuerdo de Indias

It's a group of clans that are loyal to each other, act together at war and do strictly respect the confederation rules as well as political issues that are commonly decided.

The Real Acuerdo de Indias includes the following Spanish clans:

FNI ; 7UP ; FLEKI ; VLTRA ; LIBRE ; TEARM ; ARM ; SKYNE ; BEZZ ; NOVA ; GRIJ ; GOE ; LUPUS ; 4PM ; ALU 

 

Current political positionning of our confederation:

 

USA                     ==> Military Alliance

Great Britain     ==> At War

Sweeden           ==> At war 

Dutch                ==> Neutral with all clans 

Danemark         ==> At war    

Poland               ==> Neutral with all clans

Prussia             ==> At war 

Russia               ==> Military Alliance                                 

France              ==> Military Alliance

Pirates             ==> At War 

                                Contract : open to negociation

 

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INFORM OR CORRECT THIS TOPIC TO BE UPDATED. 

 

For any information, clarification or proposal, please visit our TS at : navalaction.ts3.lu

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1 hour ago, Christendom said:

this past week with spain has been like a highschool romance.  On again...off again...on again..

 When you know what triggers them, they open their legs real easy.

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Lot's of subversive comments in that topic, as usual...

 

Do not forget the current NA situation:

- Only clans are now driving the RVR issues

- Acts of war, such as interfering into screening, generate hostilities between clans

- Diplomatic talks are very confused nationwise, only clan leaders may settle hostilities independently

- Clans include many rogue players that enjoy messing around (cause they're bored)

- Some Factions, such as Spain, try to keep its clans within a coherent political positionning  

 

Fair wind all

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16 hours ago, Celtiberofrog said:

 

 

USA                     ==> Military Alliance

 

 

Russia               ==> Military Alliance                                 

France              ==> Military Alliance

 

 

so whos ur real ally as 2 of these are at war with the other, cant have a military alliance with both France and US, makes you a very poor Ally to both as you can't assist one without attacking the other

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9 minutes ago, Kjartan said:

so whos ur real ally as 2 of these are at war with the other, cant have a military alliance with both France and US, makes you a very poor Ally to both as you can't assist one without attacking the other

We make it work. Deal with it :)

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20 minutes ago, Kjartan said:

so whos ur real ally as 2 of these are at war with the other, cant have a military alliance with both France and US, makes you a very poor Ally to both as you can't assist one without attacking the other

As long as there will be no real diplomatic tool in game,  alliances with remain very weak, subject to rogue actions and contested in nations.

"Bon courage" to those who put their fingers in.

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