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I like how everyone uses that to bash HRE a little for whatever reason. Shows that we are too successfull that people feel the need to insult us. B) (twitchchat)

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9 minutes ago, rediii said:

I like how everyone uses that to bash HRE a little for whatever reason. Shows that we are too successfull that people feel the need to insult us. B) (twitchchat)

I know I'd do the same as Jon and Karl to secure the win. Had they turned and fought they would have given the win away.

That doesn't change that hilarity ensues:

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6 minutes ago, rediii said:

@Liq @Christendom @Cornelis Tromp

Could you guys also upload the matches to youtube? Im creating a playlist of all tounament matches on my channel from the referee perspective. Would be nice :)

 

Already made a playlist aswell, can see it on my channel

Uploading battles to youtube over time

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Next tournament needs a rule, you run, you lose. Cowardice shouldnt be rewarded. We are trying to find who are the best fighters not the best runners.

Edited by Malachy

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1 hour ago, Malachy said:

Next tournament needs a rule, you run, you lose. Cowardice shouldnt be rewarded. We are trying to find who are the best fighters not the best runners.

Then play your matches m8. Bit more than 2 weeks left and you havent played a game yet.

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Maybe i missed it, but the real question remains unanswered doesn't it? 

Is running away after securing points a valid tactic? 
- Furthermore, where does the line go between running and defensive fighting? 

If running is allowed i'm to say we might see a meta of really fast hard hitting ships with the ability to perform hit&run tactics. Basically hit the ship that will be the easiest to kill and then run away for the rest of the fight. 

(I mean no offense to anyone. I haven't seen the fight which is being discussed, i'm just an interested party looking for clarifications on the rules.) 

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I can remember on the previous tournament there was a rule that if an enemy actively disengaged and ran all the time they got disqualified if they didn't heed the warning from the refs.

Trying to find the post atm...

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44 minutes ago, TommyShelby said:

If running is allowed i'm to say we might see a meta of really fast hard hitting ships with the ability to perform hit&run tactics. Basically hit the ship that will be the easiest to kill and then run away for the rest of the fight. 

Hmm, you still need 1,5x BR to win and if small ships play it smart and the big ship protects them its a pretty risky tactic imo.

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Just now, Jon Snow lets go said:

Hmm, you still need 1,5x BR to win and if small ships play it smart and the big ship protects them its a pretty risky tactic imo.

Even then, only having to kill half of the enemy BR before your able to run away is not how it should be in my opinion. With focus fire you can sink 1-2 smaller enemy ships quite fast, but alas, your ships might be heavily damaged by then. 

Anyway, i just want clear clarification here. Is it allowed or not allowed? 

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To have 1,5x BR you have to sink at least 170 BR (500/330 = 1,51x BR). So you can get a win by sinking an enemy Cherubim and then sailing off. Imo a team or Cherubim captain that plays bad enough to get singled out and sunk and then lets the other team get away deserves to lose. The "running" team then proved superior tactics (focusing small ships out aint as easy when the fat ship does its job in protecting, tanking, and damage trading). Leaving the playstyle open allows for more diversity in ship choice and setup.

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I realize my team lost to this tactic, so I'm probably still a bit biased, but in my opinion a tactic like this is the kind of thing that can ruin a perfectly good tournament. 

Yes it's allowed, I understand that. I just think it will be sad if we start to see 3 ships focus 1 enemy to death and then run away. 

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This tournament now has a new intro song

 

In all seriousness, I think allowing such tactics is against the spirit of the tourny and the goal here is to create content and promote the game.  If I wanted to watch 1 ship get sunk and then a 45min chase I'd just go out and try to find OW PVP.  This is very clearly going to become the new meta for the tournament if it isn't shut down now.

After the group phase is over, revise the rules.  No undue running or whatever you want to call it.  Moderator discretion.

Edited by Christendom

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Can't blame PODW for taking a chance to achieve technical victory, we can only blame the rules that we accepted a few weeks ago without predicting this. On the other side... was it really worth it? I would rather play to die in glory and entertain all viewers following and watching the tournament rather than killing the soul of PvP and competition. This ruined fun of both - watching & playing the tournament. Those that remember the Small Battles organized by Fellvred, running away was a very rare view, most of the players fought to the death.

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4 hours ago, Jon Snow lets go said:

Then play your matches m8. Bit more than 2 weeks left and you havent played a game yet.

Not for lack of trying. We actually had to take time off work to be able to accommodate the Russians. We've got two matches scheduled Sunday. We won't be running away, can tell ya that much. I didn't enter a tournament to run from my opponent :)

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2 minutes ago, Malachy said:

Not for lack of trying. We actually had to take time off work to be able to accommodate the Russians. We've got two matches scheduled Sunday. We won't be running away, can tell ya that much. I didn't enter a tournament to run from my opponent :)

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I wished all these people who scream "die for honor!!!!" at the top of their lungs would apply the same heroism in the non-curated PVP of the game. 

The same logic could be applied to Football fans this weekend demanding Sweden score an own goal against Italy because Italy should be at the world cup. Except no one did that.

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