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Second Naval Action 3 VS 3 Tournament
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Applications and preliminary Rulesetting
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Groups composition & Definite Rules
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Battle results & Leaderboard
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Based on feedback from this poll, I decided to already open up the applications for an upcoming tournament. On that thread, already 32 players voted that they would be interested in participating in a playermade tournament - that's over 10 teams already.

The tournament is going to be 3vs3, and teams matched vs each other will have to communicate and agree on a date and place where they have their battles.

Much more detailed information about how it works you can find below

How to apply for the tournament

List your Group name, the 3 main captains names (both ingame and forum if they got a forum account), aswell as your nation, and up to 5 reserve players (in case the main captains can't make it to a battle for whatever reason). Would also be nice to get a "battle cry" from each participating group. :)

Example:
[OCEAN], Danmark Norge
Player 1: Tommy Shelby @TommyShelby
Player 2: SeaWolf @SeaWolf_
Player 3: Silfarion @Silfarion
Reserves: SeaHyena @Sureshot; Ellis @Ellis

Demast us if you can

Note:
Players don't have to be from the same nation to form a team - But if they are from different nations, the battles they are participating in will have to be based on outlaw battles. That means that I will need some pirates willing to help  creating outlaw battles, so that ALL battle participants can join at the same time.

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Basic information on the tournament - and to be discussed rules

  • The layout for this tournament is 3v3
  • Each team will have to spread their ships to 500 BR - This means all 3 ships of one team can have a max. combined BR of 500, see the community made BR list below
  • Tournament will have a group stage and a final knockout stage - Groupstage will consist of 4 teams in one group, of which the best 2 will qualify for the knockout phase. In the groupstage, every team will fight every team once.
  • Entry fee of 500k per team - Prize money will be split on rank 1st, 2nd and 3rd place of the endresults (50 - 30 - 20)
  • Once the group stage goes live, the teams will be given a certain amount of time to fulfill their groupstage battles. How long this stage will last wil totally depend on how many teams are entering.
  • Groups for the group stage are going to be created using a RNG site
  • Each battle will have to have at least one referee aka. judge in them
  • Battle length is max. 60 minutes
  • Win in group stage = 3 points
  • A win can be achieved by the follwing ways:
    • Be the first to sink all enemy ships (within the 60 minutes battle length)
    • If after 60 minutes there are still ships alive on both sides, the side with 1.5x the BR is going to take the win
  • Draw in group stage = 1 point
  • A draw can be achieved by the following ways:
    • If after 60 minutes there are still ships alive on both sides, but the difference between the two teams is not equal or greater than a factor of 1.5, the battle will count as a draw
  • Loss in group stage = 0 points
  • If, after all battles in the group stage are done, some teams have the same amount of points, the second deciding factor will be how much BR they lost themselves overall in all battles. (The team with the lower BR lost will logically come first.) If this still doesnt decide the winner, a duel between each groups leader in a ship they both agree on to use will decide.
  • Not appearing to an arranged battle will result in an automatical loss - The enemy team will be granted a victory (3 points) and full BR sunk.
  • If the teams battling each other are from the same nation, they will have to join an outlaw battle in order to fight each other - Sadly this is the only possibility.

Tagging rules:

In order for the battles to be fair from beginning, I think there needs to be a clear tagging rule - This is how I would imagine it to look like:

 

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If the teams are positionned like that on the initial tag, no team will have a wind advantage and it will be fair from beginning.
Same goes for when we have to make use of outlaw battles (if the teams are from the same nation or a team has members from different nations) - Both teams have to line up as shown above around an ongoing outalw battle and all join on command.

Referees / Judges and their availability:

Once the groups are decided by RNG, you will have to set a date and place with each other team in your group. In order for battles to count, there needs to be at least one referee / judge inside the battle.
You will be given approximately 2 weeks to host all your groupstage battles - Plenty of time

  • Liquicity @Liq - Workdays: 17:30 - 21.00 Servertime ; Weekend: Roughly 11:00 - 00:00 Servertime
  • Cornelis Tromp @Cornelis Tromp -
  • Christendom @Christendom
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Registered teams:

  1. [HRE 1], Sverige
    Player 1: Rediii @rediii
    Player 2: Palatinose @Palatinose
    Player 3: Havelock @Havelock
    Reserves:
    Battle Cry
  2. [ALOHA], Pirates
    Player 1: Banished Privateer @Peter Goldman
    Player 2: EliteDelta @EliteDelta
    Player 3: Vile Executioner @Vile Executioner
    Reserves: Rahzer @rahzor, Jacob T Warhog @Jacob Elston
    Welcome to Hawaii
  3. [EXILE], Pirates
    Player 1: HachiRoku @HachiRoku
    Player 2: Lord Bomgordel @Lord Bomgordel
    Player 3: Otto Kohl @Otto Kohl
    Reserves: Donnerschock @Donnerschock
    TARN YA FAKING RETARD !
  4. [X], Sverige
    Player 1: Yordi @?
    Player 2: Elite92 @elite92
    Player 3: Tony @tonyxyx
    Reserves: CaptainFindus @?
    Strength and Honor!
  5. [VLTRA], Spain
    Player 1: Jorge @Jorge
    Player 2: CeltiberoJuanjo @Celtiberojuanjo
    Player 3: Durruti @?
    Reserves: Emkay @emkay, Dshrio @dShiro
    Jajajajajajaja... 
  6. [RUBLI], Pirates
    Player 1: dron441 @dron441
    Player 2: Gamover @Gamover
    Player 3: Moscalb @Moscalb
    Reserves: dumpert @dumpert
    Battle Cry
  7. [PoDW], Pirates + Sverige
    Player 1: Ram Dinark @Imperator1
    Player 2: Karl Eversten @KarJIyxa
    Player 3: Jon Snow lets go @Jon Snow lets go
    Reserves: Dwayne Everett @Дуэйн Эверет
    Keep calm and kill them all
  8. [DC+], Sverige
    Player 1: GhastlyGhost @GhastlyGhost
    Player 2: Vazco @vazco
    Player 3: Mikocen @Mikocen
    Reserves:
    Less talking, more drinking!
  9. [CABAL], Sverige
    Player 1: Bout bij Nacht @Knobby
    Player 2: Elias @?
    Player 3: Apina kin @?
    Reserves:
    Battle Cry
  10. [OCEAN 1], Danmark Norge
    Player 1: Tommy Shelby @TommyShelby
    Player 2: SeaWolf @SeaWolf_
    Player 3: SeaHyena @Sureshot
    Reserves:
    We're the good ones
  11. [OCEAN 2], Danmark Norge + Sverige
    Player 1: Silfarion @Silfarion
    Player 2: Tomms123 @Tomms123
    Player 3: Liquicity @Liq
    Reserves: Snoopy @Snoopy
    We're the shitty ones
  12. [DNP], Danmark Norge
    Player 1: McKnight @?
    Player 2: 0TimeLefT @0timeleft
    Player 3: Lars Kjaer @Bearwall
    Reserves:
    Battle Cry
  13. [ALOHA 2], Pirates
    Player 1: Malachy Karrde @Malachy
    Player 2: Wy @? 
    Player 3: Draconis @?
    Reserves: Shrouded Recluse @ShroudedRecluse
    Battle Cry
  14. [HRE 2], Sverige
    Player 1: therealStyles @Styles
    Player 2: Ser Sven Svensson @?
    Player 3: Ser Abram Svensson @Abram Svensson
    Reserves: troody @troody
    I thought we do PVE
  15. [HRE 3], Sverige
    Player 1: Pit Pinsel @kaayo
    Player 2: Pirat165 @?
    Player 3: sveno @sveno
    Reserves: MasterANDCommander @masterANDcommander
    We are the Swerg, resistance is futile!
  16. [EdR (1)]
    Player 1: dizzwho @?
    Player 2: bwa bwandais @Bwa Bwandais
    Player 3: fofo @?
    Reserves:  Visca @, Kierrip @PIerrick de Badas
    BattleCry
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Community made BattleRating list:

  • Lynx - 20
  • Cutter - 25
  • Privateer - 30
  • Pickle - 40
  • Brig - 50
  • Prince de Neufchatel - 50
  • Snow - 60
  • Navy Brig - 70
  • Rattlesnake Heavy - 80
  • Mercury - 80
  • Niagara - 90
  • Cerberus - 100
  • Renommee - 110
  • Surprise - 140
  • Hermione - 160
  • Frigate - 170
  • Santa Cecilia - 170
  • Belle Poule - 180
  • Pirate Frigate - 190
  • Essex - 190
  • Trincomalee - 200
  • Endymion - 210
  • Indefatigable - 220
  • Constitution - 250
  • Ingermanland - 260
  • Wappen von Hamburg - 260
  • Agamemnon - 270
  • Wasa - 320
  • 3rd Rate - 380
  • Bellona - 400
  • St. Pavel - 450
  • Bucentaure - 470
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8 minutes ago, Jon Snow lets go said:

@Liq Do the players have to be from the same nation?

No - but if they are, we will have to make use of outlaw battles, as in all participants of a battle join an already ongoing outlaw battle, so that they all can join in at the same time - rather than some having to rejoin manually and potentially screw up the spawn.
Same goes for when the teams matched against each other are from the same nation - ONLY possibility is to make use of outlaw battles. But I think it's important that ALL battle participants join in at the same time - I will update the second post with how I imagine the tag for battles to look like soon.

3 minutes ago, EliteDelta said:

@Liq Are you allowing a clan to field multiple teams?

 

Yes

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I'd love too but I can only really play on sunday :(( How often does a clan need to battle a week you think?

 

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19 minutes ago, Cornelis Tromp said:

I would like to volunteer for judge/referee.

Roger - Are you able to record battles and / or livestream them?

 

11 minutes ago, HachiRoku said:

I'd love too but I can only really play on sunday :(( How often does a clan need to battle a week you think?

 

In the group stage (groups consist of 4 teams each, of which the best 2 will qualify to the knockout stage) each team will battle each team once - which means you will have 3 battles. For now I'm thinking to set the group stage to about 2 weeks, should provide plenty of time for every team to do their battles.
Once the groups are decided (by RNG), you will have to contact the other teams in your group and agree on a battle date (and place). Remember that in every official battle there needs to be at least one referee / judge in order for it to count.
Later I will update the second post with a timetable to when judges are available - Personally I'm working fulltime and therefore on workdays can only be online from about 17.30 to 21.00 servertime - However on the weekends I am mostly available. You could also just do all your battles on the weekends, given your opponents agree.

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@Everyone in this thread, please provide some feedback on the BattleRating list I created and suggest changes.

Edit:
Also, personally I feel like repairs should not be limited for this. What do you think?

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1 hour ago, Liq said:

Community made BattleRating list:

  • Lynx - 20
  • Cutter - 25 30
  • Privateer - 30
  • Pickle - 40
  • Brig - 50
  • Prince de Neufchatel - 50
  • Snow - 60
  • Navy Brig - 70
  • Rattlesnake Heavy - 80 70

Sorry Liq i'm too lazy today to check your list.

But i give you list from API.

 

Edited by qw569

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1 minute ago, qw569 said:

Sorry Liq i'm too lazy today to check your list.

But i give you list from API.

 

Thanks - I got the official list already - http://www.navalactionwiki.com/index.php?title=Ships

But we thought some changes had to be made, because the balancing didnt seem right - Example L'Hermione same BR as surprise, when she's better at everything - or Wasa same BR as Constitution, when it's much more tough in general

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15 minutes ago, Liq said:

But we thought some changes had to be made, because the balancing didnt seem right - Example L'Hermione same BR as surprise, when she's better at everything - or Wasa same BR as Constitution, when it's much more tough in general

If someone thinks that Wasa is better than Constitution, then he will take Wasa.

Or If someone thinks that Constitution is better than Wasa, then he will take Constitution.

So i don't see problem.

Edited by qw569

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12 minutes ago, qw569 said:

If someone thinks that Wasa is better than Constitution, then he will take Wasa.

Or If someone thinks that Constitution is better than Wasa, then he will take Constitution.

So i don't see problem.

The issue is that the Wasa has the guns of a bellona, but the same battle rating as the conni. It just isn't balanced. 

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1 hour ago, Liq said:

Roger - Are you able to record battles and / or livestream them?.

I could arrange that. My system should be able to handle it.

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3 hours ago, Liq said:

Registered teams:

  1. , Svergie
    Player 1: Rediii @rediii
    Player 2: Palatinose @Palatinose
    Player 3: Havelock @Havelock
    Reserves:
    Battle Cry
  2. [ALOHA], Pirates
    Player 1: Banished Privateer @Peter Goldman
    Player 2: EliteDelta @EliteDelta
    Player 3: Vile Executioner @Vile Executioner
    Reserves: Rahzer @rahzor, Jacob T Warhog @Jacob Elston
    Welcome to Hawaii
  3. [EXILE], Pirates
    Player 1: HachiRoku @HachiRoku
    Player 2: Lord Bomgordel @Lord Bomgordel
    Player 3: Otto Kohl @Otto Kohl
    Reserves: Donnerschock @Donnerschock
    TARN YA FAKING RETARD !
     

I would love to play with 2 others , i got the whole next week free. Allthough.. dont think anyone would want to play with me XD. And i dont have ship. So sadly enough i cant play :/

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3 hours ago, Liq said:

@Everyone in this thread, please provide some feedback on the BattleRating list I created and suggest changes.

Edit:
Also, personally I feel like repairs should not be limited for this. What do you think?

In regards to practical implication of restriction I think it will be difficult to prevent too many repairs.. But since the battles only last for 60 mins I think that some restrictions should be in place.. 1 repair of each for example.

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Honestly I would think about not allowing Wasas at all. This ship just plays in its own league. Just a thought.

 

Edit: Scratch that, should be fine with adjusted BR.

Edited by Palatinose

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