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14 hours ago, Teutonic said:

Key West Port Battle (the first port battle between nations on Patch 11)

Outcome - US successfully take the Port
14 US vs 8 Spanish

While the US have taken the port, it seems they have gotten the attention of other nations who look poorly on this outcome.

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Funny I thought MARS was going to 8v8 DAVE/DMG ... hmm I guess they lied and decided to stab the smaller Spanish nation in the back.

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1 hour ago, Hodo said:

Funny I thought MARS was going to 8v8 DAVE/DMG ... hmm I guess they lied and decided to stab the smaller Spanish nation in the back.

I hear even the Danes are moving over to get a piece of the pie.  I know one thing the server has never stood for is picking on small nations ports. I mean OW sink the crap out of the pisky guys, but you don't take the only port they have (Cayo really doesn't count as they set it neutral).   This going to be interested.  I think BLACKS stance is right now we won't attack Brits in US waters as along as they don't attack us as we have a common goal. I'm pretty sure we will be keeping DD and NPG busy on the side and prob poke a few shots at MARS too.

PS:  I set Nassau open for all like we set La Navasse.  That way Nassau can be a good trade hub when we aren't fighting over it. I would ask that any one that wins that port to keep it it open for all too.  Still planing to have Nassau as a shallow port we can all fight over if we feel like it.  I think the talks are to have Leogane (4th rates) and Port-au-Prince (lineshis) set pretty much the same way.  Ports that we all just fight over but no one really owns.   Other nations are encourage to set up a port in the old french area around those two ports for staging to fight over them and PvP.  Making the area around whale island the in game PvP hot zone for all nations.  

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3 hours ago, Aster said:

Not taking the only port they have... France nuff said

 

17 hours ago, Rebrall said:

I'm glad it was fun its what the game is about,

BUT,

after a discussion between @Atreides and Myself ARMED has decided that we will take Islamorada off MARS Clan

this is not war with the US it is with MARS clan alone,

we did not appreciate you attacking two of our allied clans within hostility missions that were not against your clan owned land or your nation,

if you had attacked on OW we would have no problems and would stay out or if this was against your nation or clan owned lands again unless we were involved to start with again we would stay out.

 

your actions against the Spanish is understandable, as we did very similar actions against the french last patch.

looking back as annoying KoC & WO were hunting our newbies, it was the wrong action to take.

i would suggest better choices next time around  as it could be the difference between having players to pvp against and having the server die even more 

 

As I stated Nuff said 👍

 

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Not to beat a dead horse and what is done is done but I feel obligated to respond to some of the criticism above with regards to the actions the US took against the Spanish last night. 

First of all, this is not the same Spanish nation as pre-patch.  We estimate they have at least 20 active players and are growing daily.  Many of their players have recently joined Spain from the Pirates.  They are also very well organized.  To put this into perspective, I believe I have read in the forums, that Black had about 25 active players when they were able to capture Savannah and prevent us from retaking it.  We lived for months with Pirates raiding our ports with little ability to recapture Savannah.  We know what it is like to be beaten down.

The Spanish were engaging us in PVP activity along the southern Florida coast which is fine and actually made the game fun.  This included the time they had a PVP hunting group of seven ships attacking our First rates sailing south to conduct operations.  For what it is worth our First rates escaped.

However, after the First rate engagement, one of the MARS officers did communicate with the Spanish to discuss some general rules of engagement.  For whatever reason, the communication was not effective.  No blame being placed just stating that we did reach out to them.  Somehow the wires got crossed.

After the communication, the Spanish continued to harass our efforts.  At one point they jumped into a Hostility mission we were grinding against Guacata.  Interesting enough I was told by a British clan leader yesterday this action is considered an act of war.  We did not take it as an act of war but did find it disturbing.

Additionally, the Spanish engaged our ships in the Manacata / Guacata area while we were engaging the British in our skirmish there.  I don't know if this is a coincidence or coordination but the British yesterday planned to and did screen for the Spanish at Key West.  Maybe we were at war with the Spanish and just did not know it.

These activities are what lead us, multiple US clans not only MARS, to decide to capture Key West.  We did not take this action to be bullies but simply to defend our national waters.  You may think otherwise but my guess is every nation and clan would have done the same.

Finally, let's realize we took one port.  We did not take a major production port or anything like that and I believe they still have 10-11 ports.  We have no plans to further engage the Spanish other than routine PVP which is welcome and enjoyed.

If based on our activities against the Spanish yesterday the rest of the server feels we did something wrong and wants to make us pay for it...well, there is nothing we can do about that.  We will defend ourselves to the best of our ability and the let the cards fall where they may.

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18 minutes ago, Blackjack McGee said:

Not to beat a dead horse and what is done is done but I feel obligated to respond to some of the criticism above with regards to the actions the US took against the Spanish last night. 

First of all, this is not the same Spanish nation as pre-patch.  We estimate they have at least 20 active players and are growing daily.  Many of their players have recently joined Spain from the Pirates.  They are also very well organized.  To put this into perspective, I believe I have read in the forums, that Black had about 25 active players when they were able to capture Savannah and prevent us from retaking it.  We lived for months with Pirates raiding our ports with little ability to recapture Savannah.  We know what it is like to be beaten down.

The Spanish were engaging us in PVP activity along the southern Florida coast which is fine and actually made the game fun.  This included the time they had a PVP hunting group of seven ships attacking our First rates sailing south to conduct operations.  For what it is worth our First rates escaped.

However, after the First rate engagement, one of the MARS officers did communicate with the Spanish to discuss some general rules of engagement.  For whatever reason, the communication was not effective.  No blame being placed just stating that we did reach out to them.  Somehow the wires got crossed.

After the communication, the Spanish continued to harass our efforts.  At one point they jumped into a Hostility mission we were grinding against Guacata.  Interesting enough I was told by a British clan leader yesterday this action is considered an act of war.  We did not take it as an act of war but did find it disturbing.

Additionally, the Spanish engaged our ships in the Manacata / Guacata area while we were engaging the British in our skirmish there.  I don't know if this is a coincidence or coordination but the British yesterday planned to and did screen for the Spanish at Key West.  Maybe we were at war with the Spanish and just did not know it.

These activities are what lead us, multiple US clans not only MARS, to decide to capture Key West.  We did not take this action to be bullies but simply to defend our national waters.  You may think otherwise but my guess is every nation and clan would have done the same.

Finally, let's realize we took one port.  We did not take a major production port or anything like that and I believe they still have 10-11 ports.  We have no plans to further engage the Spanish other than routine PVP which is welcome and enjoyed.

If based on our activities against the Spanish yesterday the rest of the server feels we did something wrong and wants to make us pay for it...well, there is nothing we can do about that.  We will defend ourselves to the best of our ability and the let the cards fall where they may.

While Spain is larger now then it was pre patch, I wouldn't say the nation is "growing daily".

You also say we are well organized. How can that be if we are all players from different nations coming over to Spain with no game play together what so ever?

All in and Spain is still small and trying to get up and running. When others see clans like MARS running their mouths all night in Global chat, it is just asking for a fight and I think that's what we're seeing here. 

 

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1 hour ago, Blackjack McGee said:

Not to beat a dead horse and what is done is done but I feel obligated to respond to some of the criticism above with regards to the actions the US took against the Spanish last night. 

First of all, this is not the same Spanish nation as pre-patch.  We estimate they have at least 20 active players and are growing daily.  Many of their players have recently joined Spain from the Pirates.  They are also very well organized.  To put this into perspective, I believe I have read in the forums, that Black had about 25 active players when they were able to capture Savannah and prevent us from retaking it.  We lived for months with Pirates raiding our ports with little ability to recapture Savannah.  We know what it is like to be beaten down.

The Spanish were engaging us in PVP activity along the southern Florida coast which is fine and actually made the game fun.  This included the time they had a PVP hunting group of seven ships attacking our First rates sailing south to conduct operations.  For what it is worth our First rates escaped.

However, after the First rate engagement, one of the MARS officers did communicate with the Spanish to discuss some general rules of engagement.  For whatever reason, the communication was not effective.  No blame being placed just stating that we did reach out to them.  Somehow the wires got crossed.

After the communication, the Spanish continued to harass our efforts.  At one point they jumped into a Hostility mission we were grinding against Guacata.  Interesting enough I was told by a British clan leader yesterday this action is considered an act of war.  We did not take it as an act of war but did find it disturbing.

Additionally, the Spanish engaged our ships in the Manacata / Guacata area while we were engaging the British in our skirmish there.  I don't know if this is a coincidence or coordination but the British yesterday planned to and did screen for the Spanish at Key West.  Maybe we were at war with the Spanish and just did not know it.

These activities are what lead us, multiple US clans not only MARS, to decide to capture Key West.  We did not take this action to be bullies but simply to defend our national waters.  You may think otherwise but my guess is every nation and clan would have done the same.

Finally, let's realize we took one port.  We did not take a major production port or anything like that and I believe they still have 10-11 ports.  We have no plans to further engage the Spanish other than routine PVP which is welcome and enjoyed.

If based on our activities against the Spanish yesterday the rest of the server feels we did something wrong and wants to make us pay for it...well, there is nothing we can do about that.  We will defend ourselves to the best of our ability and the let the cards fall where they may.

You took their one and only port, against a nation that hasn't had much of an RVR player base in over a year.  Good job chaps.  Key West is an irrelevant port and you are simply just seal clubbing.  I think EVERYONE seems to have learned a bit from last patch that perhaps stifling nations and their player bases is inherently a bad thing, I know I personally would like to prevent that from happening here.  There are at least 100 other empty ports on the map, go take those instead of clubbing the only port a rebuilding nation has taken.  I mean you get why everyone is pissed right?

You also jumped myself and my guys, as well as CKA in hostility missions against ports you don't own.  While this is fine, PVP is always welcome, 3 weeks ago we had agreements in place and we were not aware of those being dissolved.  You were told that if you continued to sink my guys you would be put into a state of war, you did and now you have.

You cast the dice, now deal with the roll.  

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I think the lessons here are 1 don't make the mistakes we made last patch i.e. Attack a growing nation aka Spain yes gb did this last time around but it was a mistake we learnt from it so should the rest of the server, Hind sight is a wounderfull thing. 2 don't jump others in hostility mission that are not against your clan or nation cause there will be consequences for it 

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21 hours ago, Blackjack McGee said:

First of all, this is not the same Spanish nation as pre-patch.  We estimate they have at least 20 active players and are growing daily.  Many of their players have recently joined Spain from the Pirates.  They are also very well organized.  To put this into perspective, I believe I have read in the forums, that Black had about 25 active players when they were able to capture Savannah and prevent us from retaking it.  We lived for months with Pirates raiding our ports with little ability to recapture Savannah.  We know what it is like to be beaten down.

First I want to make something very clear here and many of you guys have heard me say this.  Your only been fighting 15-20 guys.  There was no 25+ could not take a port from 15 guys with a few extras.  Even when we had 25 in a port battle it wasn't 25 guys.  Most of use left Savanna alone an only showed up to defend it. We picked that spot to make it so the other clans will keep you busy and off our back as we dealed with French and Brits. It worked great.  In face I think it helped the US get off there arse and get into more fights than ever.  Gave the other clans something to do (GS6 believe was the main one) and some where for our guys to hunt when they where bored during off times.   The reason ya'll couldn't take that port is cause you constantly will show up to a SOL port with trash ships.  25 5/4th rates is never going to beat 15-20 1st rates in proper hands.

Second a mans word means a lot to our clan.  We could of prob turned the other check over the taking Spain's port.  The problem we have is the reason you did it.  The other thing is you can't even control your own guys.  What did we talk about Nassau?  MARS won't get involved, that is NPG"s problem until after we take and than we have fun fighting over it, but MARS was not suppose to be in that first fight.  GUESS WHAT?  Two MARS players whee in that battle.  Just happens one is former NPG, but hay if you can't control your guys and your not going to be able to keep your word than we are going to expect this from your clan from now on.   Don't become another Cordova or Loinshaft.  

You really don't want to know how much Pirates want to go paint a dot next to your lands again.  They are hungry for the hunt.  Maybe we should just put another dot right in the middle again?

21 hours ago, Capt. Lucky Luke said:

While Spain is larger now then it was pre patch, I wouldn't say the nation is "growing daily".

You also say we are well organized. How can that be if we are all players from different nations coming over to Spain with no game play together what so ever?

All in and Spain is still small and trying to get up and running. When others see clans like MARS running their mouths all night in Global chat, it is just asking for a fight and I think that's what we're seeing here. 

I'm not even sure where they are getting ya'll have 20 players, couldn't even fill half a port battle with your US prime time numbers. I was more guess ya'll where around 10-12 in numbers with a few others I haven't seen.  I know not all DEA and RAT went over to spain and figure ya'll got a few others from other nations.  Until I see you make a proper port battle fleet and attack some one folks should let you grow and leave your ports alone around your starting regions.  We didn't even talk about taking a port in the Keys cause we wanted ya'll to have fun over there.  Seems  it might be time we push that way and join in.

And PIrates will allow spain to have all North Cuba up to what we currently hold if they want.  Also one port in the old french middle region can be taken and held as some of us are talking about fighting over PnP area for fun and PvP.  

20 hours ago, Christendom said:

You took their one and only port, against a nation that hasn't had much of an RVR player base in over a year.  Good job chaps.  Key West is an irrelevant port and you are simply just seal clubbing.  I think EVERYONE seems to have learned a bit from last patch that perhaps stifling nations and their player bases is inherently a bad thing, I know I personally would like to prevent that from happening here.  There are at least 100 other empty ports on the map, go take those instead of clubbing the only port a rebuilding nation has taken.  I mean you get why everyone is pissed right?

You also jumped myself and my guys, as well as CKA in hostility missions against ports you don't own.  While this is fine, PVP is always welcome, 3 weeks ago we had agreements in place and we were not aware of those being dissolved.  You were told that if you continued to sink my guys you would be put into a state of war, you did and now you have.

You cast the dice, now deal with the roll.  

NPG did the same thing when we where grinding up Morgans Bluff.  That is fine and we didn't really get upset cause we knew we where going to flip Nassau the next day if we didn't that night.  That is part of the game, but we are talking about two nations that can fight in PB"s US and Pirates.  Just means we aren't going to play it easy on NPG if they think they can back taking ports in OUR WATERS (remember Bahamas where all pirates pre-patch).  I figure we are being nice letting them get a foot hold in the north parts, when in the past every time they did that they couldn't keep there grubby little fingers out of the south.

There is no reason for them to take Keys, they should have escorts for any ships out of home waters (you get reinforcements in those areas).  This game is about PvP in the OW mainly.  In our view taking a small nations only port is exactly what you stated, baby seal clubbing.  They got cocky and figure they go for the one fight they can win.  They could of just skipped over the Keys and keep going to the gulf.  Hell we where even thinking about taking one port in that area and leave there coast alone, now I think a BLACK dot on the coast line is going to be deserved.  We just won't tell them when we plan it, but it will come.  Can't give up on prime hunting grounds after all.

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Well After we take isla we won't take any more ports up there all that is out FOB to come ow pvp with MARS and any other us clan that's keen, 

 

@Blackjack McGee now I've got some sleep and it's not 2 am for me now listen very carefully please

1. I never called you guys bully's ever I advised you guys on not making the Same mistakes we did last patch.

 

2. Complaing about the time we flipped it was not your best decision at all as I said I stayed up till 2am to flip this port on the later side of our play time do you had a shot of defending it

3. Saying you will flip it when we're no around was a bit stupid to say the least I know @Christendom & the rest of VCO along with CKA will be there to defend it and we could just flip more of your ports and multiple if we so wished, on that note that's not good for the game so let's not go down this path. I can assure you now this will just be OW conflicts only unless you want it to be a port war your choice 

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@Teutonic

 

ok no idea what you class this as btw 😝 I suppose an agreed war maybe  After a conversations with @Skully & @Fastidius, SCAR & ARMED are going to fight over the bottom half of Haiti we will move into Tibs, SCAR will move into a port of there choosing and fight over the les cays area as I know there is some really good trade goods I'm sure we can both leave them FFA ports in between times, as this will be mostly AUSI prime time if other clans whish to be involved I would suggest you talk to myself @Jeheil (sorry you missed this convo) @Atreides and for the Dainish side talk to @Fastidius @Skully or toss 

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At this point, I have decided to no longer respond to comments on this forum or in global / pm chat.  There is too much in the way of personal attacks going on and I personally do not feel it to be warranted.  I understand some folks may disagree with the direction that MARS and the other US Clans have gone but what has happened has happened and can't be taken back.  To say I have learned from this is an understatement.  My trying to explain the reasoning and our thoughts has only made things worse.  Hence, it is clearly time for me to listen to a wise old man and "shut up, bob"

To Sir Texas, my word means a lot to me as well and something that I work very, very hard at keeping.  I don't think I would characterize our conversations exactly the same way you did in your posting but I do understand where the miscommunication on my part may have come from.  I still believe the Bahamas would be a great area for PVP and various PBs where the nations/clans can fight without the specter of total war on the horizon.  I apologize for any confusion that I may have caused.

Sincerely,

Blackjack

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33 minutes ago, Blackjack McGee said:

At this point, I have decided to no longer respond to comments on this forum or in global / pm chat.  There is too much in the way of personal attacks going on and I personally do not feel it to be warranted.  I understand some folks may disagree with the direction that MARS and the other US Clans have gone but what has happened has happened and can't be taken back.  To say I have learned from this is an understatement.  My trying to explain the reasoning and our thoughts has only made things worse.  Hence, it is clearly time for me to listen to a wise old man and "shut up, bob"

To Sir Texas, my word means a lot to me as well and something that I work very, very hard at keeping.  I don't think I would characterize our conversations exactly the same way you did in your posting but I do understand where the miscommunication on my part may have come from.  I still believe the Bahamas would be a great area for PVP and various PBs where the nations/clans can fight without the specter of total war on the horizon.  I apologize for any confusion that I may have caused.

Sincerely,

Blackjack

Not really all you did is force ARMED to take a port from MARS and that was MARS's actions towards GB clans not you and your communication and now we're gonna bring OW PvP to your door step that in my eyes is a win/win for us both and besides as long as you leave the ports from gasperilla to New Orleans as ffa you welcome to take them. I would advise you come talk to me on TS at some point but that ball is in your court and bare in mind we have 2 shitty TZ to communicate around 

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Approach us, talk to us.  We are not out to destroy any nation, nor will we sit by as another nation is destroyed.  Please remember we are all guys (and the occasional lady ) who want to sit down and have some fun.

Islamorada is a singular action with plans for PVP around Florida and the southern US coast, not the start of a rofl stomp of the US nation.  ARMED takes this action with several individuals in Britain not agreeing. One thing I want to be clear , we will NEVER be the clan that wrecked the server.

 

Let's learn from the past, but leave it behind us.  Each one of us makes our way in this game.  Let us all agree to show respect for our enemies, whether they sink us or we sink them.  A bad loser is immature, a bad winner has morality problems.

 

Atreides  [ARMED]

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6 hours ago, Rebrall said:

@Teutonic

 

ok no idea what you class this as btw 😝 I suppose an agreed war maybe  After a conversations with @Skully & @Fastidius, SCAR & ARMED are going to fight over the bottom half of Haiti we will move into Tibs, SCAR will move into a port of there choosing and fight over the les cays area as I know there is some really good trade goods I'm sure we can both leave them FFA ports in between times, as this will be mostly AUSI prime time if other clans whish to be involved I would suggest you talk to myself @Jeheil (sorry you missed this convo) @Atreides and for the Dainish side talk to @Fastidius @Skully or toss 

Updated on Clan Diplomacy :)

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8 hours ago, Rebrall said:

@Teutonic

 

ok no idea what you class this as btw 😝 I suppose an agreed war maybe  After a conversations with @Skully & @Fastidius, SCAR & ARMED are going to fight over the bottom half of Haiti we will move into Tibs, SCAR will move into a port of there choosing and fight over the les cays area as I know there is some really good trade goods I'm sure we can both leave them FFA ports in between times, as this will be mostly AUSI prime time if other clans whish to be involved I would suggest you talk to myself @Jeheil (sorry you missed this convo) @Atreides and for the Dainish side talk to @Fastidius @Skully or toss 

I would classify this as "How not to RvR". :D

I keep trying to explain to the Aussies that RvR is more than just undocking from port, getting into a good brawl, shooting the f*wits out of one-another and calling it a job well done... :wacko::P

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There should be something in between us to fight over! :rolleyes::lol:

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32 minutes ago, Skully said:

I would classify this as "How not to RvR". :D

I keep trying to explain to the Aussies that RvR is more than just undocking from port, getting into a good brawl, shooting the f*wits out of one-another and calling it a job well done... :wacko::P

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There should be something in between us to fight over! :rolleyes::lol:

Usually who sinks you first 😝 And this is why you are my favorite jester 😂😂😂 

and as for explaing things to ausi did you start with g'day mate and used c***t enough times?

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Reading all these posts with all the role playing and politics that mean nothing except for a few people that think that they are leaders or in charge( lol) helped me a lot! Thank you! I needed to quit playing this game and have been slowly playing less and less but having to be in a server with you guys really made the whole process a lot faster. Thank you.

Gonna join the rest of my clan members that stopped playing.

See you guys in Legends

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2 minutes ago, Simon Cadete said:

Reading all these posts with all the role playing and politics that mean nothing except for a few people that think that they are leaders or in charge( lol) helped me a lot! Thank you! I needed to quit playing this game and have been slowly playing less and less but having to be in a server with you guys really made the whole process a lot faster. Thank you.

Gonna join the rest of my clan members that stopped playing.

See you guys in Legends

K thx Bye!

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14 hours ago, Blackjack McGee said:

To Sir Texas, my word means a lot to me as well and something that I work very, very hard at keeping.  I don't think I would characterize our conversations exactly the same way you did in your posting but I do understand where the miscommunication on my part may have come from.  I still believe the Bahamas would be a great area for PVP and various PBs where the nations/clans can fight without the specter of total war on the horizon.  I apologize for any confusion that I may have caused.

Sincerely,

Blackjack

The thing is you stated several times MARS will not be involved in that first fight.  I didn't talk to you after your attack on Spains port cause I wanted to see if ya'll keep your word.  The thing is if you found out some guys showed up you could of simply dropped a line and stated, "Hay sorry they where told but showed up any way." I mean it was only two guys and one was a former NPG player, but still it's not a good start on trust of things.  

We are not jumping on the band wagon of crushing US/MARS as you can see we haven't attacked ya'll.  We have a plan and going to stick to it. Remember last patch how we where pretty much the last to get into RvR?  Well we do things in a organized planned out manor for a reason.  If you rush things this stuff that happen this week is exactly what you get in return.  Oh we plan to take a US port for sure, something along the coast line for hunting grounds, but with that we plan to do the same around the Brits, but they have neutral AI ports still open.  You didn't leave anything open for any one to trade or use for such so we will make something.  Set it for use for all and defend it if needed.

14 hours ago, Rebrall said:

Not really all you did is force ARMED to take a port from MARS and that was MARS's actions towards GB clans not you and your communication and now we're gonna bring OW PvP to your door step that in my eyes is a win/win for us both and besides as long as you leave the ports from gasperilla to New Orleans as ffa you welcome to take them. I would advise you come talk to me on TS at some point but that ball is in your court and bare in mind we have 2 shitty TZ to communicate around 

I'm actually glad we have a US clan that wants to talk even if it's just to arrange better play. In the past certain clans that made all the commands of action for US wouldn't talk. I give @Blackjack McGee credits for that and the other clans in GB and other nations for doing that.  We need to do something diffrent than what has happend in the past.  Hell any one notice EU is already complaining RvR Is dead?   Well it doesn't help when you have a small window to do it and not to mention it's only been what 2 weeks?  We want to keep the server alive and populated we need to give folks things to do.  So lets do that folks.

7 hours ago, Skully said:

I would classify this as "How not to RvR". :D

I keep trying to explain to the Aussies that RvR is more than just undocking from port, getting into a good brawl, shooting the f*wits out of one-another and calling it a job well done... :wacko::P

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There should be something in between us to fight over! :rolleyes::lol:

Danes maybe could take St Louis and they fight over Les Cayes that way.   I think Les Cayes is a good spot cause of the location isn't a boring port battle set up.  That is why I mention PaP and Leogane are good ones too.  Not to mention even though it says 1st rates we can actually make agreements to show up in other ships or for the hell of it try a mix fleet for once.  I would love to see a 3-2nd rate battle that leaves the 1st rates out of it.  Are come in with all 5th rates and have a fun brawl that is more like a big boys shallow water fight of a bunch of fast agile ships ducking it out in one circle and no one actually cares about if they win the port or not, but more the bragging rights or winning the fight.  The only problem is what I brought up about Leogane, it's 4th rate so more easy to flip with your first rates, 1st rate port battle ports take more to flip for such.

2 hours ago, Fastidius said:

Gday,  Maybe you cunts would be nice enough to take the one round the corner and we can fight over tiburon...black can get involved from la navasse and we can round robin it?

PS this is in aussie for reb.

At least your not calling them Piss Cunts like that store clerk guy.   We still need to get the Spain's over in that area and maybe if there is any french still alive that want to get involved.  Maybe small clans can fight the small nations over that area too.

22 minutes ago, Simon Cadete said:

Reading all these posts with all the role playing and politics that mean nothing except for a few people that think that they are leaders or in charge( lol) helped me a lot! Thank you! I needed to quit playing this game and have been slowly playing less and less but having to be in a server with you guys really made the whole process a lot faster. Thank you.

Gonna join the rest of my clan members that stopped playing.

See you guys in Legends

Have you tried Legends yet?  I put the code in discords if you want to.  Don't get your hopes up to much......

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