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5 hours ago, Teutonic said:

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we will update the PB times to times when they should have happened manually (but one time).
 

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11 minutes ago, rediii said:

I kind of dislike the ships for combat marks because they are realy cheap now. Yesterday alone I bought 2 wasa and 1 hermione. Atleast make the price a bit higher maybe since the wasa is such a damn good ship.

Yes, please dont bring more non-crafted ships. Every of them hits the player driven economy. You want the game to be a game for crafter and trader? Then stay consistent and give that player types a market to sell their ships. Otherwise the crafter profession could die in this game.

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15 minutes ago, rediii said:

I kind of dislike the ships for combat marks because they are realy cheap now. Yesterday alone I bought 2 wasa and 1 hermione. Atleast make the price a bit higher maybe since the wasa is such a damn good ship.

100 combat marks for any of the 1st rate permits, and significantly increased CB rewards.

Cue the old days of everyone sailing 1st rates in 3....2...1...

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Just now, Aegir said:

100 combat marks for any of the 1st rate permits, and significantly increased CB rewards.

Cue the old days of everyone sailing 1st rates in 3....2...1...

He is talking about the Ship Notes not Permits

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Just now, CaptVonGunn said:

He is talking about the Ship Notes not Permits

...I know. And I was highlighting that the notes aren't the only issue when it comes to overly cheap ships at the moment.

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1 minute ago, Aegir said:

100 combat marks for any of the 1st rate permits, and significantly increased CB rewards.

Cue the old days of everyone sailing 1st rates in 3....2...1...

If you want people to get to pvp fast you have to give players an option to recover losses fast. 

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1 minute ago, admin said:

If you want people to get to pvp fast you have to give players an option to recover losses fast. 

huh? So instead of having players build them and put them on the market handing them ships from the Admiralty store was considered a better idea?

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Just now, admin said:

If you want people to get to pvp fast you have to give players an option to recover losses fast. 

For RVR, maybe that was the case to an extent, though then against 1st rate PBs are the top tier content of the entire game so maybe it ought to be.

For OW PvP it's less to do with losses and more to do with the current combat mechanics simply making it unfun and often pointless, regardless of ship losses.

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It was made impossible to teleport to regional capitals in part because one clan proved that it could be possible to teleport into PBs. Now all ports have PBs, so every PB that is not a regional capital PB you can teleport into.

4 minutes ago, Aegir said:

Cue the old days of everyone sailing 1st rates in 3....2...1...

That is a very good thing. Making it hard to get access to lineships was driving people from the game who just wanted to experience all of the various ships in the game.

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2 minutes ago, CaptVonGunn said:

huh? So instead of having players build them and put them on the market handing them ships from the Admiralty store was considered a better idea?

admiralty builds them and gives distinguished captains (owning combat marks) the chance to get them straight from the government

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1 minute ago, Anolytic said:

That is a very good thing. Making it hard to get access to lineships was driving people from the game who just wanted to experience all of the various ships in the game.

Making it somewhat easier, sure, 350 marks for a Vic or, what, 600ish for a different 1st rate (?) was rather prohibitive and PvE grindy.

But a reduction to 100 across the board coupled with the increased rewards just seems over the top. How many PvE missions does it now take to replace the 1st rate you're in? 1? 2?

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I would say maybe 300 cm for a wasa and 150 for a hermione.

If you dont atleast make it more expensive everyone will just sail these 2 ships because its much more effort to build a ship compared to getting it with combat marks

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54 minutes ago, CaptVonGunn said:

Easy solution .. don't attack in their Reinforcement zone.. 

And the Reinforcement zone is only around the capital regions.  Wait out side and than get your target.  There was a bunch of cry babies on GLOBAL today complaining about getting there easy target reforced cause it's a known player that hunts traders and lower level guys around Mort.  Sorry no more easy targets mid day.

43 minutes ago, admin said:

we will update the PB times to times when they should have happened manually (but one time).

Thanks, but if this keeps happening than there is a problem.   Along with the 3 port battle limit that locked two nations out of doing more.  Hope fully the bug is fixed for the bad timers, but to be honest if your game is buggy you should be fixing it /EVERY TIME/

18 minutes ago, Aegir said:

Making it somewhat easier, sure, 350 marks for a Vic or, what, 600ish for a different 1st rate (?) was rather prohibitive and PvE grindy.

But a reduction to 100 across the board coupled with the increased rewards just seems over the top. How many PvE missions does it now take to replace the 1st rate you're in? 1? 2?

Yah I think a few of the high end tier ships they reduced to much, maybe something in the middle would of been better.  I did hostility missions to flip San Iago and after four missions I had 200+ CM and over a million gold.

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10 minutes ago, rediii said:

I would say maybe 300 cm for a wasa and 150 for a hermione.

If you dont atleast make it more expensive everyone will just sail these 2 ships because its much more effort to build a ship compared to getting it with combat marks

no

if you don't like it 

don't buy it

are you afraid you get shot by that ship,?

2 weeks a go it was all too expensive and now you say it is too cheap 

whats the matter with you 

there are captains who cant afford expensive ships don't you want them in the game?

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27 minutes ago, admin said:

admiralty builds them and gives distinguished captains (owning combat marks) the chance to get them straight from the government

Basically you are gearing the game towards an PvP arena game except you just have to sail to the battles instead of having a match making lobby? Why have the ability to craft ships at all or why even bother having an economy in the game full stop.(which you have ruined with the 5x reward increase for that matter). No one is going craft any 4th rate now because you have made the Wasa better than the rest of them and FAR to cheap to buy.

Just change the name to "World Of Tall Ships".

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Just now, Thonys said:

no

if you don't like it 

don't buy it

are you afraid you get shot by that ship,?

2 weeks a go it was all too expensive and now you say it is too cheap 

whats the matter with you 

there are captains who cant afford expensive ships don't you want them in the game?

Lol because it is damn cheap. The fact that you dont see it like that just shows that you just want endless supply of cheap ships. Another thing is that the cheapest 4th rate right nkw is also the cheapest 4th rate. you say thats perfect?

Weird.

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4 minutes ago, Thonys said:

no

if you don't like it 

don't buy it

are you afraid you get shot by that ship,?

2 weeks a go it was all too expensive and now you say it is too cheap 

whats the matter with you 

there are captains who cant afford expensive ships don't you want them in the game?

You do realise that the ship outclasses all other 4th rates right? Why would anyone use anything else? And you put ZERO effort in obtaining one

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6 minutes ago, rediii said:

Lol because it is damn cheap. The fact that you dont see it like that just shows that you just want endless supply of cheap ships. Another thing is that the cheapest 4th rate right nkw is also the cheapest 4th rate. you say thats perfect?

Weird.

my friend believe me

i see more than you think

this will be balanced out soon 

and we hear a lot complaining again so ....

let have captains have their moment of glory ,and let it be

 

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1) Waza class semms overpower. Easy to destroy bellona with it in pve

2) Too much money. Before it was not enough, not it's ridiculous too high

3) Decreasing mines supply. To force people buy stuff and use taxes? Really hard to continue make eco withtout npc with this rate. Just big clans will succes to keep making eco what i don't care as part of big clan but i can feel the one forcing to famr coal like pig beeing overstress with this change

4) Stability: The game is crashing and crashing and crashing

5) RvR grind: ok for me, 4 mission to flip a port seems ok but if 40 guy take 4 missions and deliver them together you can't defend your port in open sea . Maybe should you force just mission one per one to not let that happend

6) Clan friends, how do i know if i can go to a pb? I don't see hwho is my friend, i just know who i love not who love me

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Just now, NethrosDefectus said:

You do realise that the ship outclasses all other 4th rates right? Why would anyone use anything else?

you are right but you are wrong :P,

it is for sure the top brawling ship and does render the poor aggy mute, but some other 4th's still have advantages over her.

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We need a lot of players, cheap ships and combat. The traders can be pleased with rare items and paints, etc. Something that's hard to get but won't disturb a fun game for many players. It's a combat game afterall isn't?

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4 minutes ago, Rebrall said:

you are right but you are wrong :P,

it is for sure the top brawling ship and does render the poor aggy mute, but some other 4th's still have advantages over her.

Tell us what makes another 4th rate better please since the wasa is fast, has a lot of chasers and a solid turnrate, more crew and more HP aswell as big guns

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5 minutes ago, rediii said:

Tell us what makes another 4th rate better please since the wasa is fast, has a lot of chasers and a solid turnrate, more crew and more HP aswell as big guns

Others 4 th are not swedish ...this is an advantage XD

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