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Player-selected ships 2017 - Initial poll

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  1. 1. Pick the vessel you'd like to sail most

    • 1. Malicieuse (1758, French 32-gun frigate)
      3
    • 2. Niger-class (1759, British 32-gun frigate)
      7
    • 3. Euridice (1802, Dutch 32-gun frigate)
      7
    • 4. Carolina (1808, Austrian 34-gun frigate)
      4
    • 5. Saint Nicholas (1790, Russian 34-gun frigate)
      12
    • 6. Santa Monica (1777, Spanish 36-gun frigate)
      5
    • 7. Friderichsværn (1784, Danish 36-gun frigate)
      15
    • 8. Venus, Bellona-class (1783, Swedish 40-gun frigate)
      17
    • 9. Princesa Real (1819, Portuguese 50-gun frigate)
      15
    • 10. Leopard, Portland-class (1790, British 50-gun 4th rate)
      10
    • 11. Le Jason (1724, French 52-gun 4th rate)
      4
    • 12. Principe da Beira (1774, Portuguese 54-gun 4th rate)
      2
    • 13. Prinses Frederika Louise Wilhelmina (1779, Dutch 54-gun 4th rate)
      3
    • 14. Leeuwenhorst (1742, Dutch 56-gun 4th rate)
      3
    • 15. Delft (1782, Dutch 56-gun 4th rate)
      6
    • 16. Fama-class (1784, Venetian 66-gun 4th rate)
      6
    • 17. Wenden (1706, Danish 70-gun 3rd rate)
      10
    • 18. San Giovanni (1789, Maltese 70-gun 3rd rate)
      0
    • 19. Göta Lejon (1746, Swedish 74-gun 3rd rate)
      8
    • 20. Vrijheid-class (1782, Dutch 74-gun 3rd rate)
      10
    • 21. Le Monarque, Sceptre-class (1747, French 74-gun 3rd rate)
      1
    • 22. Téméraire-class (1782, French 74-gun 3rd rate)
      124
    • 23. San Juan Nepomuceno (1766, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate)
      3
    • 24. Montañés-class (1794, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate)
      134
    • 25. Rainha de Portugal (1791, Portuguese 74-gun 3rd rate)
      6
    • 26. Wreker-class (1798, Dutch 80-gun 3rd rate)
      108
    • 27. Foudroyant (1798, British 80-gun 3rd rate)
      15


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Borch    411
On 12.04.2017 at 10:18 AM, admin said:

Pandora will be provided on release (not before)
Kepler (the planet ship) the Pavel Razee is frozen - may get in may not get in we dont know. It kinda does look strange.

The rest from your list be provided in some or another form on release and maybe before.

  • Prince de Neufchatel
  • Diana
  • Hermione
  • Wasa 
  • Christian VII

Some of these ships were player voted vessels and some were added by us. Several unpainted raw hulls for those vessels were provided by players like Ragnar and Bungee. 

Christian V11 could become a reward ship for one of the quest lines (nordic one) - it wont become a premium ship because of our promise of no premiums above the 3rd rate.
Le Hermione and Wasa will definitely be premium vessels. We are not sure about Prince de Neuf... It is beautiful but might be needed to plug a gap in the scout ship lineup. 2 more premium vessels will be taken from current line up. There will be 4 premium ships. 

Total 2013-2017 Establishment

  • 45 combat ships in game (finished and unfinished) including the variants .
  • 41 excluding the variations like pirate frigate. It is 400% above of original promise of 10 ships :)
  • (we do not count trader lynx and similar types in the list as they are just ungunned variants)

Plans and the state of shipbuilding

We have 45 unique combat vessels in game. We originally promised 10 for early access content and we over delivered it 400%, It was possible to player support, likes, clapping, applause. Thank you for helping to make it happen. 

Short term plans
We are not working on any more vessels because we are not sure about the sales results on release (which depend on reviews). We don't even hear praise for ships any more. Some players are even claiming that new ships are not content and everything is just trash..There are some people who made up stories for themselves that  we are hiding some huge reserve of ships somewhere to blackmail them. There are no more new ships in hiding or in development. None.

To change the situation you have to raise your voice (if you came here "because ships"). next time you hear someone talking about lack of content remind them how many new ships were added since release and point to the fact that ships ARE content and also take time to develop.  Speak up, leave the review, tell us that you want new vessels, and help to balance the negative energy with positive.  

 

28 minutes ago, Alado said:

this is smoke, we have nothing. And remenber, Spain only have one ship, one of biggest navys and most representative in this time and place. Rusia have 4, Russsians know where are caribe in this time??? plzz

This is not smoke. Admin confirmed Diana in one of those threads. Dutch got 0 ships.

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So due to the dutch having 0 ships we have to vote a third rate without an interesting service record and with a meh design.

Whats the purpose? do we need another ship that people wont sail as the cerberus?

That ships, like others appointed, is almost a second rate, and I'd prefer to sail, any time, a bucentaure.

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SteelSandwich    2,244

Im very much looking forward to more competition on the 3rd rate level. Whether thats a montanes, temeraire or a wreker is indifferent to me.

I personally find the idea of a dutch ship appealing, yet its my own research jnto them that makes me attached to them and the prime factor behind my vote for them.

The wreker is an well documented ship class, with visual references and plenty of ship logs to syphen from.

The delft is well known ship for the fsct that she is bring reconstructed in rotterdam somewhere. She fought in thr battle of camperdown and sank afterwards due to damage taken. Another captured ship, the dutch hercules 74, was renamed to 'delft' to commemorate her brave and tough performance during battle.

The euridice is a rather typical late dutch multipurpose frigate. With its higher profile it was quite able to carry goods and marines to less accesible places.

The venus, 20 gun corvette not included here, stood her ground during thr siege of palembang. Taking on main battery to allow transport ships to land marines. She held her ground and paid the price for it. Commended for her performance she was send for repairs which proved to be accessive which resulted in her being sold.

 

In a few word typed from my phone why its not about the nation but about the story. The dutch being a large martime nation isnt key in my eyes. The argument that a ship was copied like 121 times falls in the same catagory for me. (Temeraire)

If these polls have shown us anything it is that people: tend to vote for big ships screwing over interesting smaller ones.

And when it comes to the big boys, id like to see the wreker in a 76-gun config on the 3rd rate level, to compete with telhe bellona. And perhaps in a 90-gun config to price up the 2nd rate level, with her 36 and 30 pdr guns.

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3 hours ago, Alado said:

this is smoke, we have nothing. And remenber, Spain only have one ship, one of biggest navys and most representative in this time and place. Rusia have 4, Russsians know where are caribe in this time??? plzz

Spanish salt is one of the finest salt in Europe, thx for making this thread funny jajajajajajajajaja

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LeBoiteux    1,259
32 minutes ago, SteelSandwich said:

The euridice is a rather typical late dutch multipurpose frigate. With its higher profile it was quite able to carry goods and marines to less accesible places.

(...)

If these polls have shown us anything it is that people: tend to vote for big ships screwing over interesting smaller ones

Right now only 515 members have voted. Last poll, 1867 ones have voted. What if the next 1000 votes were for the Euridice (I'd vote for her me too if so)... or any other Light frigates  ? ;)

In that cas, HMS Cerberus would feel less alone :

2 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

do we need another ship that people wont sail as the cerberus?

btw I love HMS Cerberus. Don't say anything bad about her ! :P

32 minutes ago, SteelSandwich said:

The venus, 20 gun corvette not included here, stood her ground during thr siege of palembang. Taking on main battery to allow transport ships to land marines. She held her ground and paid the price for it. Commended for her performance she was send for repairs which proved to be accessive which resulted in her being sold.

I'd love to see her in game ASAP !!!

Dutch have certainly a lot of nice ships !! As other nations... :)

 

 

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7 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

So due to the dutch having 0 ships we have to vote a third rate without an interesting service record and with a meh design.

Whats the purpose? do we need another ship that people wont sail as the cerberus?

 

Huh?  Cerberus is a popular and useful ship.  Service record not really interesting factor to me.  What's your problem with the design of Wreker?

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no one    7
15 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

So due to the dutch having 0 ships we have to vote a third rate without an interesting service record and with a meh design.

Whats the purpose? do we need another ship that people wont sail as the cerberus?

That ships, like others appointed, is almost a second rate, and I'd prefer to sail, any time, a bucentaure.

That "meh design" have 36 pounders in the lower deck and 30 pounders in the upper gun deck.

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3 hours ago, no one said:

That "meh design" have 36 pounders in the lower deck and 30 pounders in the upper gun deck.

Thanks mate to give me more reason to believe that, with 80 guns and that broadside weight, that "meh" design does not belong to the third rate category. We are looking to fill the gaps in third rate ships, did you know?.

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pietjenoob    281
2 hours ago, Admiral Horatio Hornblower said:

Thanks mate to give me more reason to believe that, with 80 guns and that broadside weight, that "meh" design does not belong to the third rate category. We are looking to fill the gaps in third rate ships, did you know?.

Then u can get rid of all the Dutch ships then since most of the sol are designed to punch above their normal rate

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Fluffy Fishy    745
1 hour ago, pietjenoob said:

Then u can get rid of all the Dutch ships then since most of the sol are designed to punch above their normal rate

You could just adjust the rating system of the game slightly to be one that's based on poundage of broadside over number of cannons.

Saying that the Dutch ships will always stick out due to them being heavily gunned whilst maintaining a shallow draft, although their rounder hulls to support the weight of these guns would mean the Dutch ships would have behaved quite a bit more tender than most SoLs and that brings it's own issues, perhaps balance it out slightly by having them roll and heel more violently than other SoLs?

Edited by Fluffy Fishy

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pietjenoob    281
49 minutes ago, Fluffy Fishy said:

You could just adjust the rating system of the game slightly to be one that's based on poundage of broadside over number of cannons.

Saying that the Dutch ships will always stick out due to them being heavily gunned whilst maintaining a shallow draft, although their rounder hulls to support the weight of these guns would mean the Dutch ships would have behaved quite a bit more tender than most SoLs and that brings it's own issues, perhaps balance it out slightly by having them roll and heel more violently than other SoLs?

And also maybe less of a turn since a good keel acts more or less like a fin and that can make shallow water also drift a bit more than usual

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Adm_Frisian    0

Captains. We need to fill 3 gaps in the ship line up.

Please propose ships for the consideration. 

Requirements in broadside guns

  • Light frigates 32-36 guns (we have no ships in this range)
  • Heavy frigates 50-60 guns (we only have trincomalee and constitution in this range)
  • 3rd rates 70-80 guns (we only have 1.5 ships in this range)

All other gun counts will not be considered

Nation preference

  • Dutch
  • Portuguese
  • Venetian

Other great models will also be allowed but we would prefer underrepresented nations. 

 

Important update

We won't accept long lists of ships. We want YOU to make a choice. Lists will be ignored. Please if you are interested in a certain ship getting into a game. List that ship alone. 

 

 

this is what is asked for by de devs

 

is it so hard to read?? 

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Borch    411
3 hours ago, Arvenski said:

It's a pinned thread, dude... lol

Yes it is but some people only check unread content and could miss that anyway dude.

Edited by Borch

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Borch    411

Like I said, if you are not checking specific parts of forum only unread content, then you will miss it. How can't you understand that dude? :)

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pietjenoob    281
On 21-9-2017 at 1:21 PM, Fluffy Fishy said:

You could just adjust the rating system of the game slightly to be one that's based on poundage of broadside over number of cannons.

Saying that the Dutch ships will always stick out due to them being heavily gunned whilst maintaining a shallow draft, although their rounder hulls to support the weight of these guns would mean the Dutch ships would have behaved quite a bit more tender than most SoLs and that brings it's own issues, perhaps balance it out slightly by having them roll and heel more violently than other SoLs?

With Legends i already heard people saying shallows are which make it interesting if you for example want to defend a fortress but you have mainly frigate but a 2/3 shallow water sols with a heavy broadside in the shallows whilst their French, American, Spanish and English counterparts need have at least half more depth to operate. Which also should also get naval landing were only traders for example can land marines to shore to capture fortresses, tower and the town. Which in turn could be translated to paying soldiers to keep city save.

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