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  1. 1. Pick the vessel you'd like to sail most

    • 1. Malicieuse (1758, French 32-gun frigate)
      3
    • 2. Niger-class (1759, British 32-gun frigate)
      7
    • 3. Euridice (1802, Dutch 32-gun frigate)
      9
    • 4. Carolina (1808, Austrian 34-gun frigate)
      6
    • 5. Saint Nicholas (1790, Russian 34-gun frigate)
      14
    • 6. Santa Monica (1777, Spanish 36-gun frigate)
      6
    • 7. Friderichsværn (1784, Danish 36-gun frigate)
      16
    • 8. Venus, Bellona-class (1783, Swedish 40-gun frigate)
      21
    • 9. Princesa Real (1819, Portuguese 50-gun frigate)
      16
    • 10. Leopard, Portland-class (1790, British 50-gun 4th rate)
      11
    • 11. Le Jason (1724, French 52-gun 4th rate)
      4
    • 12. Principe da Beira (1774, Portuguese 54-gun 4th rate)
      3
    • 13. Prinses Frederika Louise Wilhelmina (1779, Dutch 54-gun 4th rate)
      2
    • 14. Leeuwenhorst (1742, Dutch 56-gun 4th rate)
      5
    • 15. Delft (1782, Dutch 56-gun 4th rate)
      7
    • 16. Fama-class (1784, Venetian 66-gun 4th rate)
      6
    • 17. Wenden (1706, Danish 70-gun 3rd rate)
      13
    • 18. San Giovanni (1789, Maltese 70-gun 3rd rate)
      0
    • 19. Göta Lejon (1746, Swedish 74-gun 3rd rate)
      9
    • 20. Vrijheid-class (1782, Dutch 74-gun 3rd rate)
      9
    • 21. Le Monarque, Sceptre-class (1747, French 74-gun 3rd rate)
      1
    • 22. Téméraire-class (1782, French 74-gun 3rd rate)
      142
    • 23. San Juan Nepomuceno (1766, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate)
      4
    • 24. Montañés-class (1794, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate)
      145
    • 25. Rainha de Portugal (1791, Portuguese 74-gun 3rd rate)
      7
    • 26. Wreker-class (1798, Dutch 80-gun 3rd rate)
      115
    • 27. Foudroyant (1798, British 80-gun 3rd rate)
      21


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The ships were proposed in Player selected ship 2017 . Posts with 1 ship filling the requirements (including 50-60-gun lineships) were selected, and a few more were added as moderators requests to complete the list of proposals. Ships without plans or pictures weren't selected.

The vessels with the most votes will be put to the final poll.

 

Frigates 32-36 guns

1. Malicieuse (1758, French 32-gun frigate)

2. Niger-class (1759,  British 32-gun frigate)

3. Euridice (1802, Dutch 32-gun frigate)

4. Carolina (1808, Austrian 34-gun frigate)

5. Saint Nicholas (1790, Russian 34-gun frigate)

6. Santa Monica (1777, Spanish 36-gun frigate)

7. Friderichsværn (1784, Danish 36-gun frigate)

 

Heavy frigates

8. Venus, Bellona-class (1783, Swedish 40-gun frigate) [Moderators request]

9. Princesa Real (1819, Portuguese 50-gun frigate) [Moderators request]

 

4th rates 50-60 guns

10. Leopard, Portland-class (1790, British 50-gun 4th rate)

11. Le Jason (1724, French 52-gun 4th rate)

12. Principe da Beira (1774, Portuguese 54-gun 4th rate)

13. Prinses Frederika Louise Wilhelmina (1779, Dutch 54-gun 4th rate) [Moderators request]

14. Leeuwenhorst (1742, Dutch 56-gun 4th rate)

15. Delft (1782, Dutch 56-gun 4th rate)

16. Fama-class (1784, Venetian 66-gun 4th rate) [Moderators request]

 

3rd rates 70-80 guns

17. Wenden (1706, Danish 70-gun 3rd rate)

18. San Giovanni (1789, Maltese 70-gun 3rd rate)

19. Göta Lejon (1746, Swedish 74-gun 3rd rate)

20. Vrijheid-class (1782, Dutch 74-gun 3rd rate)

21. Le Monarque, Sceptre-class (1747, French 74-gun 3rd rate)

22. Téméraire-class (1782, French 74-gun 3rd rate)

23. San Juan Nepomuceno (1766, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate)

24. Montañés-class (1794, Spanish 74-gun 3rd rate)

25. Rainha de Portugal (1791, Portuguese 74-gun 3rd rate)

26. Wreker-class (1798, Dutch 80-gun 3rd rate)

27. Foudroyant (1798, British 80-gun 3rd rate)

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May I suggest for the Wreker-class go for the Chatham or the Admiraal de Ruyter, and the Vrijheid is a ship not a class, she is part of the Prins Maurits-class 

For the Wreker-class ships u can do one before and after refit even

 

Edited by pietjenoob

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Two questions;

1) Why is Fama listed with the 3rd rates? She is so tiny compared to the other 3rd rates it would be so unusual to include her with the likes of the massive 74s and 80s, she is smaller than the 50 gun SoLs in the poll, HMS Leopard for example is over 2m longer and only 0.4m thinner at the waist.

Fama Sitting along side some similar sized ships:
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2) Out of interest which one of the subclasses of the Téméraire-class are we voting on? That could almost make a poll on its own :D

  •     Téméraire (18 ships)
  •     Duquesne (46 ships)
  •     Danube (26 ships)
  •     Cassard (Large variant - 2 ships)
  •     Suffren (Short variant - 3 ships)
  •     Pluton (Small variant - 25 ships)

 

   
Edited by Fluffy Fishy

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Litlle explanation from the  wikipedia: The Montañés was a 74 gun third-rate Spanish ship of the line. The name ship of her class, she was built in the Ferrol shipyards and paid for by the people of Cantabria. She was built following José Romero y Fernández de Landa's system as part of the San Ildefonso class, though her were amended by Retamosa to refine her buoyancy. She was launched in May 1794 and entered service the following year. With 2400 copper plates on her hull, she was much faster than other ships of the same era, reaching 14 (rather than the average 10) knots downwind and 10 (rather than 8) knots upwind.

In 1795 she fought a French force of 8 ships of the line (including one three-decker) and 2 frigates single-handed in the bay of San Feliu de Guíxols - thanks to her superior speed, the Montañés managed to get within range of a coastal artillery battery, forcing the French to break off the chase.

In June 1805 she was put under the command of Francisco Alcedo and made part of Alcalá Galdiano's division, defending Cadiz from a possible British attack. At the battle of Trafalgar she was assigned to the second division of Gravina's squadron. Both Alcedo and his deputy Antonio Castaños were killed (with the ship's command passing to lieutenant Joaquín Gutiérrez de Rubalcava), but overall the ship lost only 20 dead and 29 wounded and was able to recapture the Santa Ana and Neptuno after their capture by the British. The Montañés returned to Cadiz on the night of 21 October 1805.

Now commanded by José Quevedo, on 14 July 1808 the Montañés took part in the capture of the Rosily Squadron at Cadiz. She also made several voyages to the Canary Islands, Balearics and Havana before being lost in a heavy storm on 10 March 1810.

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3 hours ago, Peter Goldman said:

What about Christian Danish SOL? It won voting year ago? or 2 years ago.

Christian is actually under development. teasers have been sent out long ago and she will likely be ready soon (TM)

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On 09/09/2017 at 0:40 AM, Barberouge said:

8. Venus, Bellona-class (1783, Swedish 40-gun frigate)

Well... we do have quite a lot of 38-42 gun ships :  Surprise, Hermione, Cherubim, Belle Poule, Essex, Pirate Frigate. :)

Edited by LeBoiteux

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4 hours ago, Fluffy Fishy said:

2) Out of interest which one of the subclasses of the Téméraire-class are we voting on? That could almost make a poll on its own :D

  •     Téméraire (18 ships)
  •     Duquesne (46 ships)
  •     Danube (26 ships)
  •     Cassard (Large variant - 2 ships)
  •     Suffren (Short variant - 3 ships)
  •     Pluton (Small variant - 25 ships)

 

   

:D  They should all be in the game ! :D 

In my view, there need to be priority nation ships yet :

  1. French
  2. Spanish
  3. English
  4. US
  5.  United Provinces
  6. Danes&Sweden
  7. Portuguese
  8. Italie

So i voted for the Téméraire Class that i request for long time now :) 

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I find that we may lose a good chance to see ships from other nations due to the inclusion in this pool of "popular" nations that already have a lot of ships in the game.

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3 hours ago, OneEyedSnake said:

Swedes get a ship before the Dutch get a ship. Lol what a joke

lemme make it worse. The Germans, the guys that had a rowboat for their navy, got a ship before the dutch... And now, yet again, the dutch seem to be getting what? Nothing... because ofcourse we need another french ship, because of course there are none in the game. Oh... wait...

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Calm down

This is not the final vote, this is the poll that is going to narrow the choices. Once this one is over we will have another poll with only about 10 ships left (or rather less)

And its not yet decided. Ive seen polls going all over the place during their "lifetime"

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The Dutch will get at least one ship from this.  No need to be salty :D another could be in the works.  Plus you have a couple made by community members.  You never know.  They might make it into the game ;)

Edited by Sella22

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1 hour ago, BungeeLemming said:

Once this one is over we will have another poll with only about 10 ships left (or rather less). 

And its not yet decided. Ive seen polls going all over the place during their "lifetime"

Hoping that Light frigates with 32-36 guns (and even Heavy frigates with 50-60 guns) will receive some love from the voters... 

Right now, 6 out of the 8 most voted ships are 74-80 gun ones and the 2 others are a 56-gun ship and a 40-gun one.

Edited by LeBoiteux

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7 minutes ago, LeBoiteux said:

Hoping that Light frigates with 32-36 guns (and even Heavy frigates with 50-60 guns) will receive some love from the voters... 

Right now, 6 out of the 8 most voted ships are 74-80 gun ships and the 2 others are a 56-gun ship and a 40-gun one.

This seems to be a frequent problem though, people always seem to lean towards the biggest ships available without much understanding of the ships themselves, I'm sure if there were some larger 2nd rates or 1st rates involved they would be taking a huge amount of votes too.

Its also not helped by the fact that the Téméraire and Montañés probably shouldn't be in the poll at all, they should already be in development or in the game. Its further made an issue by the lack of a Dutch ship in the current state, but again the Wreker is also one of the obvious choices for development and should have been put into the game already.

It all takes away from making the ship poll what it should be at least in my opinion, as an option to get some more unusual choices in that wouldn't be such obvious choices. So many of the ships here just seem like we shouldn't need be voting on them at all.

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Téméraire class, because of this:

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 More than 100 ships of this class were built (Téméraire class), some fought for the Royal Navy, Spanish Navy, Dutch Navy and obviously, the French Navy. They were built in many famous cities like Toulon, Brest, Rochefort, Lorient, Cherbourg (France), Antwerp (Flanders), Vlissingen, Amsterdam (Netherlands), Genoa (Italy) and also Venice.
This is the most numerous class of capital ship ever built, it SHOULD be in the game.

@Fluffy Fishy : I totally agree with your analysis. There should be a poll for each class of ship and the Dev should balance the game with the class they need.

Edited by Forbin

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