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My great-grandfather was a dreadnought.  True fact.

This sounds potentially glorious.

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Wow good luck with this project,  you could add economics as required because the 'Dreadnought' era was won by money, actually in the whole time period how many battleship only battles where there are you including other ship classes?

1939 as the end date would this be commissioned ships only as otherwise we all want the Yamato :D

 

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There are actual some games existing, e.g. Rule the Waves. You can find in their forums some interesting discussion about Ships of the Dreadnought area and you can find on youtube some lets plays, e.g historical gamer and tortuga power. So RtW has some good features with ugly graphics but packed in the graphic like NA it would be interresting, okay shipbuilder wouldnt be possible, but an 1.WW Ironship game would be interessting but the Range from 1880-1939 is to wide there has changed so much in ship design and the technology advance was so great. I have my doubt that this could be balanced. So I would guess you have to lower the range of years, maybe from the end of the predreadnought area e.g. 1900 - 1939 or from 1880 to 1906 (introduction of the HMS Dreadnought).

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11 hours ago, Gysendorf said:

 okay shipbuilder wouldnt be possible

We already made a good 3d ship builder. You will design YOUR own 3d ships and will even have some control over the hull form.

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Would be nice to hear a little bit more about the intentions. As far as I remember, there have not been much encounters in the first part of the timeframe. Except from some duck-shooting in east asia there has been the battle at port arthur and ww I. Or am I missing something?

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On 16.8.2017 at 8:45 AM, admin said:

We already made a good 3d ship builder. You will design YOUR own 3d ships and will even have some control over the hull form.

That would be awesome! So now I am exited!

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I've studied American History so if youve got any questions in regards to the early dreadnoughts and the Empires of the 15th - 20th century I'd be happy to help. Also if you want to know anything about boarding ships I got some real life experience in that :P

ALthough this is mostly 2nd WW related you may find a few pictures of interest here: http://archive.hnsa.org/doc/id/fm30-50-naval/index.htm

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I'm really interested on how this game would sort out the pre-dreadnoughts from the dreadnoughts... the pre-dreadnoughts before 1906 would be vastly inferior to pretty much anything built post-HMS Dreadnought. I would consider only accomodating 1906 -> 1950 (so we can have WWII vessels, notably Vanguard, Iowa, Blucher, Fletcher).

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On 16-8-2017 at 8:45 AM, admin said:

We already made a good 3d ship builder. You will design YOUR own 3d ships and will even have some control over the hull form.

This statement made my eyes wet with anticipation. 

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On 9/2/2017 at 5:20 PM, _Masterviolin said:

I'm really interested on how this game would sort out the pre-dreadnoughts from the dreadnoughts... the pre-dreadnoughts before 1906 would be vastly inferior to pretty much anything built post-HMS Dreadnought. I would consider only accomodating 1906 -> 1950 (so we can have WWII vessels, notably Vanguard, Iowa, Blucher, Fletcher).

 

While that is true about everything post 1906, that does not mean that the pre-dreadnought steel era has no place in the game. It all depends on how the game were to be set up. If it's straight PVP then sure, someone in a pre-dreadnought is at a disadvantage to someone in a WWI or WWII ship. But if it's a more match-making type setup, then what's the problem? I for one think it would be fun to be using some of the ships that historically saw little if any combat, the Russo-Japanese and Spanish-American wars notwithstanding.

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I'm of a like mind with masterviolin.  At some point during the WWI arms race between Britain and Germany, a number of the capital ships built were still strong enough to compete decades later during the second world war.  I wouldn't personally put the limit at 1939 (maybe mid 1920's?), but if admin and the team feel balancing won't be an issue, then let's see what happens.

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On 8/15/2017 at 6:27 AM, Grundgemunkey said:

slaughts was actually at jutland ..he was a young dabber on the Invincible

Did he discover the fountain of youth as well?

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I would be interested in being involved in this. While I am no naval architect I do have some fairly detailed books on it.

 

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On 14/08/2017 at 7:02 AM, Sir R. Calder of Southwick said:

Hello,

 

I have degrees in naval architecture and marine engineering and have always been extremely fascinated with the steel warship era, particularly the dreadnought era. I'd certainly like to help contribute. I also have a significant library with not only general volumes but technical treatises on interwar ships (I know you said until 1939 but most of my information/knowledge goes through 1945).

As an example, here is part of my library.

 

How can I assist?

battleship books.JPG

What, no Conways? :P
I own both conways... ww1 and 2. Plus thier ancient triremes one.

Ever considered an ancient naval game?

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On 02/09/2017 at 10:20 PM, _Masterviolin said:

I'm really interested on how this game would sort out the pre-dreadnoughts from the dreadnoughts... the pre-dreadnoughts before 1906 would be vastly inferior to pretty much anything built post-HMS Dreadnought. I would consider only accomodating 1906 -> 1950 (so we can have WWII vessels, notably Vanguard, Iowa, Blucher, Fletcher).

There were many transitional designs, for example the Japanese would have built a class of all big gun capital ships (Satsuma and Aki) predating the Dreadnaught but ran out of money and ended up with a mixed 12in/10in battery. 

Building our own ships offers a chance to smooth that transition with a whole range of mid-sized mixed battery battleships.

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@admin
I have been doing a lot of research on the period for a naval-focused alt-history worldbuilding project--I would be eager to discuss/share anything I can. (Particular interests--historical fire control, approximations of hydrodynamic properties, and effect of gunfire.)

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While not an expert in the field I played all the SSI board games covering that era, and remember some of the principles. Don't remember the SSI titles - Dreadnought? Jutland? Battleship? I remember the Jutland game in particular - it was one of my favorites....this possibility really excites me!

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On 4-1-2018 at 8:28 PM, Preechur Blackheart said:

While not an expert in the field I played all the SSI board games covering that era, and remember some of the principles. Don't remember the SSI titles - Dreadnought? Jutland? Battleship? I remember the Jutland game in particular - it was one of my favorites....this possibility really excites me!

The SSI Great Naval Battles series was glorious!

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