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I think a merge would be good at this point.  Just hand out another set of "Forged papers" and merge them up and give it a test run. It can always be split back apart if need be.

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1 hour ago, Bearwall said:

The server merge wouldn't bring the greatest number of players online, it would destroy what numbers we do have on EU, and the global server isn't worth mentioning in regards to playerbase.

you're kidding right?

 

EU is Dying.   Global is Dying.   look at those #'s from the graph.  

 the only solution is a merge otherwise this game will become vaporware. 

 

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If you look at the graph... Global is very slowly losing ground while EU is losing faster. For the last month I have seen similar numbers (Sunday evening dropping for some reason because of a TV show) on global when I login for an Eastern US evening session.

And EU has the window for PB that's supposed to protect them from loosing their pop as it was their main argument in favor of a split of server... while on our side we are testing to some extend  how a nation can live with only 1 region.

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1 hour ago, Christendom said:

When you and your ilk petitioned for the servers to be split, I said it would kill both populations.  It has.  You went from 1200 to barely cracking 500.  Global hasn't lost anything close to that number, but we're definitely slower than at the start of the wipe.  Choose whatever excuse you want to explain the loss in players, both servers have the same grind and the Econ is easier on EU with more players.  Splitting up the base did not work. 

All these mythical EU players you said would leave said they would leave too right after we took Santa Domingo and Savannah from you.  I remember Kloothy coming on our TS in tears because his clan was dying.  All those players magically came back once you retook SD.  This is a farce.

its time to choose a different path.  This one ain't working.  Stop holding this game back because people can't stomach the game being played out of their 3 hour safe space.

 

This hardcore path is not working indeed.

The split servers worked when we saw in the first days of the big patch lots of people testing the new path.

The low retention has nothing to do with the split. In fact, a merge would piss off so much the EU playerbase that you will probably see even less numbers than ever. None of my friends want to suffer again all the bullshit of a global server.

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1 minute ago, Intrepido said:

This hardcore path is not working indeed.

The split servers worked when we saw in the first days of the big patch lots of people testing the new path.

The low retention has nothing to do with the split. In fact, a merge would piss off so much the EU playerbase that you will probably see even less numbers than ever. None of my friends want to suffer again all the bullshit of a global server.

That's really pathetic... As if Global players were a disease...

I mean all the players who moved from pvp1 to pvpglobal had spend a year and a half playing on pvp1... and only in the last few months did it seem to be a problem to all the European xenophobes. And what should have been fixed in game by mechanics (because flash news for you: nobody liked to be attacked during his night time/work time) was not fixed and only a band-aid was given to the EU server while global was left to its own device.

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8 minutes ago, Louis Garneray said:

That's really pathetic... As if Global players were a disease...

I mean all the players who moved from pvp1 to pvpglobal had spend a year and a half playing on pvp1... and only in the last few months did it seem to be a problem to all the European xenophobes. And what should have been fixed in game by mechanics (because flash news for you: nobody liked to be attacked during his night time/work time) was not fixed and only a band-aid was given to the EU server while global was left to its own device.

Calling us xenophobes is a smart move.

Another reason to encourage the split of the servers, the level of stupidity and toxicity of the global guys seems to be beyond measure.

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Just now, Intrepido said:

Calling us xenophobes is a smart move.

Another reason to encourage the split of the servers, the level of stupidity and toxicity of the global guys seems to be beyond measure.

It's hard to know what you are talking about when you are not spending any time on Global.

We have a lot of nice people from all nations in game, and I'm not sure where comes your stupidity and toxicity comment.

 

Xenophobe is fear of what is foreign... Evidently PVP1 is fearful of what is not agreeing to a 3h PB windows and time to go to bed after that. :D:D

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Just now, Louis Garneray said:

It's hard to know what you are talking about when you are not spending any time on Global.

We have a lot of nice people from all nations in game, and I'm not sure where comes your stupidity and toxicity comment.

 

Xenophobe is fear of what is foreign... Evidently PVP1 is fearful of what is not agreeing to a 3h PB windows and time to go to bed after that. :D:D

I only need to read your national news. I only need to see your server map.

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27 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

This hardcore path is not working indeed.

The split servers worked when we saw in the first days of the big patch lots of people testing the new path.

The low retention has nothing to do with the split. In fact, a merge would piss off so much the EU playerbase that you will probably see even less numbers than ever. None of my friends want to suffer again all the bullshit of a global server.

jajajaaj and the players quit back when we were night flipping and then magically appeared when you started winning again.  Every single one you who posted on these forums crying over the night flips came back to dayflip the US towards the end of the patch.  this is a BS threat.  

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23 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

This hardcore path is not working indeed.

The split servers worked when we saw in the first days of the big patch lots of people testing the new path.

The low retention has nothing to do with the split. In fact, a merge would piss off so much the EU playerbase that you will probably see even less numbers than ever. None of my friends want to suffer again all the bullshit of a global server.

BS of a global server?   you do realize that by merging the servers ALL timezones will be populated and there should be zero of your so-called night flips. Unless you think you need to be logged into the server for each and every port battle. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

I only need to read your national news. I only need to see your server map.

if it's your only barometer... then pvp1 isn't great.

We have a lively forum life look for yourself:

2905 posts for a 300 population and EU has 2265 for twice that number of players.

http://forum.game-labs.net/forum/53-national-news/

And the map is just a bunch of different colors.

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Just now, Christendom said:

jajajaaj and the players quit back when we were night flipping and then magically appeared when you started winning again.  Every single onfe you who posted on these forums crying over the night flips came back to dayflip the US towards the end of the patch.  this is a BS threat.  

Dont speak of threats Chris when you have been blackmailing entire nations with the nightflips.

Just now, JG14_Cuzn said:

BS of a global server?   you do realize that by merging the servers ALL timezones will be populated and there should be zero of your so-called night flips. Unless you think you need to be logged into the server for each and every port battle. 

 

I realize that only SOME NATIONS WILL HAVE POPULATION AROUND ALL TIMEZONES.

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1 minute ago, Louis Garneray said:

if it's your only barometer... then pvp1 isn't great.

We have a lively forum life look for yourself:

2905 posts for a 300 population and EU has 2265 for twice that number of players.

http://forum.game-labs.net/forum/53-national-news/

And the map is just a bunch of different colors.

Quantity doesnt make quality.

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2 minutes ago, Louis Garneray said:

exactly we have 300 people and we have a lot of activity in game.

Good for you, I guess. But EU dont want your dramas.

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5 hours ago, koltes said:

You cant have a night flip if defender sets 6 hours no PB window.
If we go back to narrow Attack window we will again have clans sitting in a port waiting for an attack. Imagine having number of those ports? We would have to sit there half a day and wait being attacked in that time. Also if you only give small window to attack this will easily block half of the server out who is in different TZ

Koltes, if I understand you correctly, you are arguing for a 6 hour period during which the attacker cannot do a port battle.  The thing is, to the Dane/Norge, Swede, Spanish E U players, anything outside of THEIR 5 or 6 hour primetime is considered a "nightflip". They want 18 hours during which there can be no PBs.  That is what they have now on the EU server.  

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Just now, Chijohnaok said:

Koltes, if I understand you correctly, you are arguing for a 6 hour period during which the attacker cannot do a port battle.  The thing is, to the Dane/Norge, Swede, Spanish E U players, anything outside of THEIR 5 or 6 hour primetime is considered a "nightflip". They want 18 hours during which there can be no PBs.  That is what they have now on the EU server.  

Dont speak of nations. You taking like if we still have Eastern vs Western Alliance.

Speak of all the guys who freely chose to play on the EU server. So include Dutch, French, Brits and US.

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32 minutes ago, Louis Garneray said:

if it's your only barometer... then pvp1 isn't great.

We have a lively forum life look for yourself:

2905 posts for a 300 population and EU has 2265 for twice that number of players.

http://forum.game-labs.net/forum/53-national-news/

And the map is just a bunch of different colors.

Considering that the EU server has roughly a dozen languages that play on it, and most of those post in their respective language forums and not in the primarily English EU server news forum.   

You can take that number out and flush it.

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17 minutes ago, Chijohnaok said:

Koltes, if I understand you correctly, you are arguing for a 6 hour period during which the attacker cannot do a port battle.  The thing is, to the Dane/Norge, Swede, Spanish E U players, anything outside of THEIR 5 or 6 hour primetime is considered a "nightflip". They want 18 hours during which there can be no PBs.  That is what they have now on the EU server.  

Actually they have 19hours they cant have a port battle.

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You can quarrel over RvR all you like, I care little one way or the other. But remind yourselves that the correlation between the state of RvR and player numbers is most likely weak.

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As a North American player who has played on both EU and Global servers, both this year and last, I can tell you that if PB times are your concern you are looking at this all wrong.  Statistically  <10% of the population play the game mostly for RvR.  Merging servers is about improving the game for at least 90% of the player base that need more Econ suppliers, more customers, more escorts, more PVE partners and more targets.  The other 10% that want purely RvR will figure out a way just like I did as a North American player on PvP EU.  

Many of you are basing your entire resistance to any merge on potential "night flips" becoming a problem.  We could see if that is a problem or not first. Even if it becomes a problem the most likely outcome is that the EU players dominate the map as they would have 5/7ths of the total population.. I'm willing to trust the EU players and give the merge a go.

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26 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

Dont speak of nations. You taking like if we still have Eastern vs Western Alliance.

Speak of all the guys who freely chose to play on the EU server. So include Dutch, French, Brits and US.

Ok, then EUROS.

I just logged into the EU Server.  It is 21:00 server time...the tail end of Euro prime time.

What do I see?

(no port battles contested, no port battles scheduled, and only 2 ports on the map have more than 10% hostility generated).  

EU Server Contested.jpg

EU Server PBs.jpg

EU Server Hostility.jpg

 

So what are all these Euros who choose to play on the EU server doing (if they are not fighting port battles, not creating port battles, and few generating hostility)?

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5 minutes ago, Chijohnaok said:

Ok, then EUROS.

I just logged into the EU Server.  It is 21:00 server time...the tail end of Euro prime time.

What do I see?

(no port battles contested, no port battles scheduled, and only 2 ports on the map have more than 10% hostility generated).  

EU Server Contested.jpg

EU Server PBs.jpg

EU Server Hostility.jpg

 

So what are all these Euros who choose to play on the EU server doing (if they are not fighting port battles, not creating port battles, and few generating hostility)?

Global for example.  

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Action galore!

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4 minutes ago, Chijohnaok said:

So what are all these Euros who choose to play on the EU server doing (if they are not fighting port battles, not creating port

 battles, and few generating hostility)?

Most likely vacation or lingering vacation mode. Do the same check in two or three weeks to know if it's that or an actual trend.

(My cheap guns sold well all the way up to EU vacation time, now it's almost halted.)

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