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[PVP1- EU] Sweeds/Danes/French/Spanish Alliance DECLARATION


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Dear PvP1 Players/testers and dear DEV's,

 

For several weeks our coalition tried to fight back Port attacks that were set at very late hours, with lots of players ruining their real life nights.

- Some Port attacks were deliberatly set by opponants with no intention to show fleets but only to discourage the defenders that stayed awake so late.

- Since hostility has become faster to build up, nightflips have increased.

- Due to multiple time zone player base belonging to the Brits/Dutch/USA coalition, our coalition that is 90% based on European player base has never been capable to fight back & set any nightflips.

 

Considering the above points, our coalition, that includes many reasonable but passionated NA players/testers, comes to the fact that nightflips are not sustainable anymore.

It does not make any sense despite all the good will of our coalition player base. Real life is a priority for us as well as playing/testing logical & balanced strategy wargame mechanics. 

 

So our coalition declares that every Port attack set up later than 00:00h server time will not be attended & therefore contested.

 

This decision is only meant to be pro-active for NA testing project since it will physically show unbalanced territories occupation on NA map that are exclusively linked to PVP1 server population & reactivity.

This unbalanced result will mostly reveal the emergency for DEV's to fix the highly critical issue of "real life factor - player time zone factor".

These factors MUST be taken into account to produce a sensible strategy game.     

 

Thank you & good wind all.

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WHEN THE DANES ( + ALLIES)  USED NIGHTFLIPS PLUS EVERY DIRTY TRICK AND EXPLOIT TO WIN IT WAS APPARENTLY FAIR! But now they loose they give up..  Piss take if you ask me!

Oh I forgot that you told the entire American nation they could only play this game Durring your prime time and no others!!!!

When you win every exploit is fair, when you loose. Every exploit is unfair... Ironic right!!!

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You always can close the game. You just have to do it. 

 

I disagree. :)

When players want to fight in their timezones around the world you can do nothing. It is just simple and in every such game.

Accept this or not.

The only thing who can change it, is to change PB timers. But then there will be timezones without PBs. 

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6 minutes ago, Pitxagorri said:

i have to wake up at 05:30 am because i have to work...

its enought for you whit this reason? I dont want to sleep just for 2-3 hours. Like there are more people

(sorry btw for my English) ;)

Reasons are choices :) ?

I do get the "worry about virtual property" but... trying to bend virtual existence to accommodate to RL is a bit beyond my comprehension.

Game is very good and very important as it is a leisure activity but damn, sometimes I get "scared" about how serious you make it by losing sleep over it :)

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Just now, Hethwill said:

Good then. While someone sleeps someone is playing. I see no issues in having the need to cut down opportunity of others.

im not cutting down opportunity s but im just saying that my time to play ends at 10:00-11:00pm. I agree, there are diferent times and all the people must have the chance to play

but im disgusted because every week i wake up and 1-2 zones have been taken and i dont have the chance to do nothing ^_^

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6 minutes ago, Hethwill said:

Good then. While someone sleeps someone is playing. I see no issues in having the need to cut down opportunity of others.

 

Nobody say you can't play while we sleep........ We just say, nobody will defend ports while we sleep......... You can follow conquering ports at night, but nobody will be there to defend it......... Just that........ ;)

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9 minutes ago, rediii said:

we attack americans in their worktime = port is defended by allies, we get a fight

americans attack us in our night = port is undefended, we want to sleep too

 

Hope everyone understands the difference now.

Still don't get it. Because it's the same issue American have.

Americans want to Pb and nobody is there. No fight for them. In order to get a fight they have to wake up early or don't go to work. But I don't hear much complains by US players while they play as team in their alliance.

The only difference the Dutch British US alliance has a bigger variability in timezone. So when one nation goes to bed the other takes care.

 

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Just now, Hethwill said:

Good then. While someone sleeps someone is playing. I see no issues in having the need to cut down opportunity of others.

 

I think people's grievance with it is in how it completely wrecks their primetime/leisurely efforts as well.

What's the point in 75 dedicated guys getting hostility despite enemy intervention, successfully escorting their fleet to the battle and then winning a hard-fought PB if a few days later just a few guys easily get unopposed hostility to set up a PB, don't need an escort and fight an underpowered enemy for a free victory?

It's nothing like choosing not to show up for a PvP event, letting traders roam free at night e.t.c. 

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Players shouldnt make the diplomacy. Devs should have player + timezone data to mix nations so that every block can have equal opportunities. To me it doesnt seem players arent able to handle the problem.

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23 minutes ago, Hethwill said:

Good then. While someone sleeps someone is playing. I see no issues in having the need to cut down opportunity of others.

 

Am sorry but niteflip is a Cancer like some player like Monk33y for exemple :P

keep doing you nite flip when will be only the GB and usa on the game with 100 player like of the serveur 2 you will boring and just leave the game too so enjoy and still play like this if you just will to empty totaly the game Congrats :)

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I strongly support this initiative! Everyone gets what they wanted. European players will fight at european time, american players at american time, we alle get enough healthy sleep and awesome gameplay we are all here for, right?

Now i just wish there was a way those two timezones wouldnt interfere... it kinda sucks to conquer something that is lost in another timezone... *cough* two servers *cough*

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5 minutes ago, Delafair said:

Am sorry but niteflip is a Cancer like some player like Monk33y for exemple :P

keep doing you nite flip when will be only the GB and usa on the game with 100 player like of the serveur 2 you will boring and just leave the game too so enjoy and still play like this if you just will to empty totaly the game Congrats :)

I don't think using Bold or an adjective using a mortal disease to describe something or someone can make your point across.

What is also true is that many EU play across both timezones with AUS & EU and US friends, the same way as US do that and on and on.

 

 

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On the one hand I would like to just stat "you brought this on yourselves".

On the other hand this is testbed and if the majority of testers think differnt timezones in PVP are a severe problem, it is their very own right to tell the developers so.

There have been a number of possible solutions for this problem floating around, though.

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Just now, Hethwill said:

I don't think using Bold or an adjective using a mortal disease to describe something or someone can make your point across.

 

well where is the interest to still do rvr when people like the usa flip arbor in the nite honestly ?? lost ship and time for flip a region to lost it 3 day later because the us flip them back after in middle on nite no interest to play on the game if wee loose the hard work for cap a region for loose it 2 day after in nite so for me it's clear this game will just slowly die if dev just not resolve this prob.

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39 minutes ago, monk33y said:

WHEN THE DANES ( + ALLIES)  USED NIGHTFLIPS PLUS EVERY DIRTY TRICK AND EXPLOIT TO WIN IT WAS APPARENTLY FAIR! But now they loose they give up..  Piss take if you ask me

As far as I know you haven't won a PB in server primetime.. And pls - exploit have been prevalent from all factions - so don't cry in capital letters..

And I agree with the OP - split the servers in locked PB timers of 8 hour windows..

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Oh they can do solve it. Would you like it ? Rests to be seen I guess.

I would vote for "NPC European Nation" to issue orders to the Colonies and take away our Voting liberties.... such nonsense that liberty thing...

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