admin Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Dear Captains 1. Please suggest a nice 24-28 gun ship. Provide plans and/or references, model pics. tech drawings. 2. Please suggest nice unarmed or poorly armed trading ship 6th rate size. Also provide plans and or references pics or drawings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) HMS Blandford 20guns do you mean 24-28 on baordside or over all?http://tall-shipmodel.com/ for the merchant ship i sugest any indiaman you can find Dutch Indiaman amsterdam Edited October 31, 2014 by Mirones 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 On #1, I assume you mean actual number of guns carried, not rated guns. Is there a preferred timeframe? Type (and size) of ship with this number of guns can vary widely depending on timeframe. Circa 1740, both a British establishment 24-gun ship (6th-rate frigate) or a French 3me Ordre frigate would nicely fit the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 1670-1820 -/+5years is the known timeline but admin dont you allready have all hands on work with the current WiP ships? how many are they again? 5? 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 1670-1820 -/+5years is the known timeline No, the point is number of guns doesn't narrow down exactly what niche the devs are looking to fill. I can find examples of ships in this timeframe with 24 guns that are 350 tons or 1000 tons, or that fill very different roles. My guess, however, is that the devs are looking for a small cruiser (cruiser in the original sense) type of ship, i.e. a very small frigate or large corvette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 well i guess they are looking for a 24-28gun ship wich make people drolling just by looking at it. that could be a frigate an Idiaman or an 1670 build lineship with heavy armament 24lb guns etc its pretty late over there in Kiev i gues we will have better answers tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMatt Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 American Privateer Ship Oliver Cromwell with 24 guns, 6-4 Pounders, 6-6 Pounders, and 12-9 Pounders with some guns in a weird arrangement. Very pretty nonetheless and theres many models of the ship. edit: as luck would have it theres a book that displays the detailed plans of the Cromwell, the site with the picture above also has the same plans. http://books.google.com/books?id=2h06pVtd7zUC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=oliver+cromwell+ship+model&source=bl&ots=XHl6wWIotL&sig=0oaPRXfY61ozC5v8Bs_H1UEroIk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TQ5UVOf7AoKZoQTOpYHoCA&ved=0CEoQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=oliver%20cromwell%20ship%20model&f=false http://www.dlumberyard.com/Plans/cromwell.pdf However I have not been able to find a sail plan for the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 nice found Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Ooh, here is an idea for a pair of ships that satisfy both requirements and are famously linked to eachother in history: 1. HMS Pandora (a 24-gun Porcupine class post ship), which was sent to hunt down: http://www.super-hobby.com/zdjecia/0/0/7/2420_1-r3.jpg 2. HMAV Bounty (a former merchant turned transport armed with 4x 4-pdrs and swivel guns) and her mutineers. Both ships are very well-documented in the Anatomy of the Ship series: http://www.amazon.com/24-Gun-Frigate-Pandora-Anatomy-Ship/dp/0851778941 http://www.amazon.com/Armed-Transport-Bounty-Anatomy-Ship/dp/087021280X/ref=pd_sim_b_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1N3AJDJK02QH8MAFH366 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 What about the Whydah Gally? I can't post any pics at the moment but they shouldn't be hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirones Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 yeah i remember watching a doku about her wreck cant find any shipplans on the quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bixol Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Postillionen frigate (french) or stralsund frigate (danish)? Have to look tomorrov if i find some references Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 That's it Mirones. I thought it had an interesting history starting life as a British slave ship before becoming one of the most infamous pirate ships under the control of Sam Bellamy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligatorswe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 If Swedish ships are of interest we have the ships af Chapman drew in the end of the 18th century. They were known internationally to be some of the best ships in the world.Drawings by Af Chapman can be found on this link: http://covax.bth.se/chapmanprojekt/index.html Number 31 and 32 shows both the exterior and interor of a frigate, for example.One example of a ship he built is Venus, that was later captured by the russians. Here are some links to drawings and information. http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7976 http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Ships/War/SE/Venus(1783).html http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Swedish_frigate_Venus_(1783)-schematics.jpg 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligatorswe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 As for the poorly armed trading vessel I simply suggest HMS Bounty. It is a famous ship, that makes it more attractive for those that play and buy the game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Bountyhttps://fatboxsoftware.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/264/https://www.google.se/search?q=ship+drawings+bounty&safe=off&espv=2&biw=1745&bih=868&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=toZUVNXxFsurPOCtgPgP&ved=0CB8QsAQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMatt Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I'd vote for HMAV Bounty as merchant ship and make HMS pandora my second choice. Love the history behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wangrin Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 24-28 gun ships : L'Aurore - Frégate Légère - 1697 : 44 guns (20x18pdr + 24x8pdr) La Belle-Poule - Frégate - 1765: 34 guns (24x12pdr + 10x6pdr) La Renommée - Frégate de 8 - 1744 : 30 guns (26x8pdr + 4x4pdr) La Vénus - Frégate de 18 - 1782 : 38 guns (26x18pdr + 12x6pdr) merchant ship : Le Mercure - Navire Marchand - 1730 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Please visit this ship plan database for all your needs: http://www.orlogsbasen.dk/enkel.htm Bring back the famous POTBS ship Raa - Raae 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Neptunus Privateer Source: http://s980.photobucket.com/user/jamesjn/library/Neptunus%20Privateer?sort=3&page=1 Source; http://s980.photobucket.com/user/jamesjn/library/?sort=3&page=1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Merchant PLIII, Swedish Indianman Source: http://s980.photobucket.com/user/jamesjn/library/Merchant%20PLIII?sort=3&page=1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 USA Schooner or War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Indianman Plans http://www.sjohistoriska.se/ImageVaultFiles/id_3081/cf_1799/51.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The Fluyt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 1670 Dutch Flute Source: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/11-scratch-build-logs-in-progress/ Fluyt Zeehaen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Loe Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Download these plans, not sure how long they will last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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