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would be rather nice to sail the ship used in Master and Commander, which I believe was HMS Rose. she does fall in the time frame for NA, being 1757

The suprise, is the HMS rose as far as i know, and oyu cna fully crew her as Master Comander (for brits)

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The suprise, is the HMS rose as far as i know, and oyu cna fully crew her as Master Comander (for brits)

Oh no my friend, she's not the L'Unite class corvette. Surprise is from a much later date than 1754. He means the 20 gun post rate ship.

 

L'Unite is a 44 gun corvette, the historical HMS Rose was a 20-28 gun frigate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Rose_(1757)

 

The HMS rose in San Diego was originally built as a replica for the actual HMS Rose. but she was modified heavily to fit the role for HMS Surprise. I've had the pleasure of seeing and boarding the replica, and I can tell you it's obvious that she's not a replica of a L'Unite. Quarterdeck rail and overall hull complexion isn't too familiar for my beloved HMS Constance in-game :)

 

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Oh no my friend, she's not the L'Unite class corvette. Surprise is from a much later date than 1754. He means the 20 gun post rate ship.

 

L'Unite is a 44 gun corvette, the historical HMS Rose was a 20-28 gun frigate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Rose_(1757)

 

 

Where's your source for L'Unite's armament?  If I recall correctly, L'Unite was built to bridge the gap between the smaller warships and frigates, thus would be a small frigate and most definitely NOT a 44 gun ship!  Heck, the British classified her as a 28 gun frigate (though she often carried more than those 28 guns, but that was more of the norm in the day).  Furthermore, as the Surprise from the novels/movie was a work of fiction based in history, and Patrick O'Brian once toured HMS Rose (pre-conversion) and noted that she was very much like he envisioned Aubrey's Surprise, I'd say she's a pretty good fit.

 

*Edit:  Looked up the wikipedia page for Surprise... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Surprise_(1796)

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