Rob Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Just a short question, why is there little to no material about detailed cannon firing effects and impacts on different surfaces? I have read a book from a Dutch author who describes this in good detail, but its a book so you miss the visualization. Also there is nothing about shell impact. Just a link for people who can read Dutch: http://issuu.com/otteblom/docs/boektest So do you guys have some links to any useful material? Ps. In the famous paintings of Willem van de Velde de Oude you can see a lot of detail in smoke and damage. How far is NA planning to go with damage smoke and water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawke Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 If you look around the forums there has already been several posts about this, including some excellent youtube videos of live firing exercises on wooden targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 I have seen those, as i remember it correctly they where in Danish. So i couldnt understand it really. Besides that it was really interesting to watch. I was just wondering if some people have some interesting material on this topic, other than the things i have seen on this forum. I am trying to build a gun port with complete battle station arrangement in 3ds max so that why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundershield Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I have seen those, as i remember it correctly they where in Danish. So i couldnt understand it really. Yup that was my thread, If you're interested I could find more pictures, and videos of the event, and I'd be happy to provide accurate translations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 Yup that was my thread, If you're interested I could find more pictures, and videos of the event, and I'd be happy to provide accurate translations. That would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 6lsb naval gun shooted (4min45 to begin) Nice flare and sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMILWzE9f0k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sound is so weird!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0KE-Vo0I0E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 the best one: Uss constitution shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 in this video you can hear also how the sound changes from different angles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 6lsb naval gun shooted (4min45 to begin) Nice flare and sound Pretty sure that is a toy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 to have read what is written in french i will say you that i's not a toy, they named that : an half 6 lsb". They are of french manufacture of gunnery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 And it's still a lot bigger than a 30mm autocannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 to have read what is written in french i will say you that i's not a toy, they named that : an half 6 lsb". They are of french manufacture of gunnery.Excuse me, not "toy" as in children's toy, but half-scale working replica of real thing.And it's still a lot bigger than a 30mm autocannon. Not really. Not at all, in fact. Unless you just mean barrel diameter, which is somewhat meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kala4 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 the best one: Uss constitution shoot Did they always charge cannon it such way? I mean not pulling it full back, putting charge and banning from outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 Woow very nice, thanks everybody! Only problem i have is the cannons do not move after being shot, maybe because they use less powder than in real life. I know from the books i have read that the Dutch used a lot of powder compared to for example the British. Made it a lot more dangerous to fire the cannon but the effect was impressive. It was quite normal for Dutch cannons to explode. Besides all that, nice videos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIerrick de Badas Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Did they always charge cannon it such way? I mean not pulling it full back, putting charge and banning from outside. I think it mostly depend on the gun. was it able to roll or not? In many case they were rope to make them not move. In practical it seems weird to load arty like that but it's because we alwais see pirate moovies with the gun going back to be reload. So i will just say that i don't know how theywere really reloaded the guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Cannons fired with full loads. Note recoil. Also, I think you can hear shot going down range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Apparently in earlier centuries gun were not allowed to recoil, and were restrained by the breachings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Apparently in earlier centuries gun were not allowed to recoil, and were restrained by the breachings. Well thats not entirely true, they where secured with ropes when the guns where fired the cannon would roll back the ropes where used as breaks. Sorry for bad english, kinda hard to put it in english hope you understand it well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well thats not entirely true, they where secured with ropes when the guns where fired the cannon would roll back the ropes where used as breaks. Sorry for bad english, kinda hard to put it in english hope you understand it well enough. As I said, the usual practice was to let the cannons recoil and roll backwards. But before the 17th century it was common for the cannons to be fired with the ropes already taught, meaning that they could not roll backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 As I said, the usual practice was to let the cannons recoil and roll backwards. But before the 17th century it was common for the cannons to be fired with the ropes already taught, meaning that they could not roll backwards. hmmm interesting... will keep it in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaDog Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Carronade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Odyssey Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 the best one: Uss constitution shoot I didn't see any scale attached to the gun for the elevation wedge. How did they communicate the proper gun elevation angle to the other guns from the gun taking the ranging shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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