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No, this thread is not about complaining about the RoE of the patrol zones. Instead, I had the following idea: Let players ingame vote for the next patrol zone area (the following day) and the ship rate allowed. E.g. Vote for a patrol zone, for example hispanola channel. Then vote for the allowed ship rate (1st - 7th rates) Benefit: more variety Con: dev time
Recently, the mindset of "Make Safezones Safe again!" has gained a lot of supporters. Requins are sniping noobs all over the place. In this thread I would like to have a formal discussion about safezones, if they should be a thing, and if so, under what circumstances. I think the game (-devs) have to finally make the decision whether or not newbs should get absolute protection in a certain area or not. In their current state, the reinforcment zones are not fullfulling their role of protecting noobs. Those often don't even know how to call for help in nation chat. It's rather the more experienced captains that are gaining from it, so they can craft / trade in peace. The game is getting closer to a release state, Port UI should attract quite a few new players and perhaps we will also see some returning players. However, it will most likely not take them long to say *eff this* after getting sniped @ the capital and put the game away again. There was an attempt to fill the spot of PvP for those that want it, with the Patrol Zones. However, with a pretty bad execution. Personally I don't even dare anymore to attack certain nation players in the zones, because I know the probability of more of them spawning in half an hour later is pretty high. Thus, I think having a 100% safe zone (nation owning the zone is not attackable) is the right way to go, given... 1 Zone per nation Smaller zone than the ones we currently got Chooseable "High-Sec missions", which ONLY spawn in the green zone, granting significantly less rewards than... "Low Sec" missions, which spawn in an area outside the first, green zone, grant more rewards by @Christendom: Ships crafted in the zone are only basic (green or blue) Cannot tow a ship to / from ports within the safe zone The idea of a 100% sec zone should be to give new players a place to get into the game; not give vets a secret cave to hite at to produce all their stuff they need. *Ermagerd, where do I now go to kill stuff??* For there to be a safe zone; I think there needs to be a reliable alternative for players to find PvP. *You scrub, we got Patrol zones for that*... yeah sure, we do. However, with a pretty bad execution. 30 min open battles @ a place where both sides on their own will, to get PvP, is not a solution. A while ago, I posted a suggestion, how the ideal PvP zone (in my opinion, of course) would look like. As far as I know, the patrol zone IS on the devs to do list, however only after the Port UI (and localization?) is done. I fear that will be too late, though. The two zones explained: "High Sec" - Players of the nation owning the zone CANNOT be attacked, at all. "Low Sec" - Players of the nation owning the zone CAN be attacked, Only extra rule is battles stay open for a little longer than the rest of OW - perhaps 10 minutes Zones visualized (Just an example, not too sure about the zones size), just for you to get the idea: Pro's Noobs are safe. Better player retention rate Less salt. Con's Less sandboxy. PvP zones are more Arena-ish.
I have a suggestion for how we deal with long voyages and local areas of operation (PVP/PVE opportunities) As it would be quite impossible to utilise real time for sailing around the world, we obviously need a workaround that is both usable and believable. Obviously I can't do this in just a couple of sentences so bear with me pls I propose that we have a system based on 18th and 19th century trade routes and Port/harbour locations. I propose that your ship is in 1 of 5 states/situations. In Harbour - You are docked and going about your business in the town. In Harbour approach area - interception possible In General shipping area - Blockading & interception possible In Deep sea voyage - Travel only, possible random 'events'. In Battle - Shooting stuff For simplicity assume in most cases, the harbour approach is last 2 miles radius around harbour, general coastal is a band up to 20 miles from the coast. Deep sea voyage is your time compacter to allow crossing of oceans. Harbour approach is always from the deck General shipping is on map but accelerated speed, interceptions drop into deck combat mode. Deep sea voyage is a short period of time where your ship is a dot on a world map moving of its own accord along a pre determined trade route once a route is selected and exits into a general shipping area. Possible random events such as losing topmast in a sudden squall, picking up survivors from open boat(reward/mission), Logging location of unknown island or wreck (Possible mission opportunity etc etc) Before I get shouted at for not being able to interdict those juicy merchantment, or intercept that enemy fleet during deep sea voyage. There were historically very few deap sea encounters for the simplest reason, No Radar, No Satallites. However you could work out a probable destination for your targets and would attempt to put your ships in the way e.g. a favoured frigate captain or a pirate would patrol/cruise a given area of sea because it was a natural location for your target ships to travel through. A fleet would do the same thing to intercept another fleet. This area is your general shipping area. So, where historically possible, each deep sea voyage would start outside general shipping area, and finish outside target general shipping area with additions of known or probable bottleneck areas having additional 'general shipping' feature where you drop back to ship on a map, sail safely through and then continue deep sea voyage. So you 'sail' out of harbour, you mini map through general shipping, you reach and enter deep sea voyage, you 'puddle hop' your deep sea voyage through any additional general shipping areas that could be considered bottleneck areas good for interception, then at your final destination, you reverse the order, dropping into general shipping area, sail last 2 miles to harbour and with luck you safely enter harbour and do your 'thing' Obviously the devs will decide how many harbours/ports will be in game, and it is possible that more than 1 port will exist within the same general shipping area. depending on proximity and importance to the game. I also propose that there is a method of slowing down deep sea travel speed for each additional deep sea voyage within a certain timeframe, this would prevent someone for instance making 10 trips to jamaicas and back to England in a half hour gaming period. Perhaps a greater penalty if you enter harbour for trade or repairs. Something to think on. No pretty pictures I'm sure you guys can picture this yourself.