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  1. SHIPS LUNCH

    when it will launch new ships because the game is dying every day
  2. Legends Ideas and Questions

    Hello everybody. I had some ideas and questions. I have tried looking for information about Legends in the forums , didnt found much. Now to start of with a question of mine: Wen will Legends be officially released? Some people said Next Thursday to me. Now about the ships. In Legends we have quite some ships , but not all of them. Not even close. First i have this question: Will all ships come into Legends? And i have an idea for the ships that are not in game yet. Right now you gotta have xp to research your next ship and buy it with silver. Maybe you could buy the other ships with gold , that is harder to get or something like that? Because i would love to sail with lots of ships in Legends that are not in game in Legends yet , like L'Hermione. Or Bellona. And others.. actually just all of them
  3. I was just wondering (because of the massive amount of frigates in the game) what other people prefer when they use one, I personally enjoy the Surprise and Renomee the most since their strengths help with destroying merchant ships. What are your thoughts?
  4. Time Frame Ships.

    Hello Everyone. I wanted to tell/ask something. The time frame of ships in-game/that are possible to be in game are ships that are build in 1690-1820. This means we will get lots of 18th century ships , gotta love them. Dont get me wrong , i love 18th century ships , they look awesome , the sailing is amazing. They all have something great. Gotta love those ships. But what i was wondering: Why not make the time frame a little...wider? With this "wider" effect i mean: 17th century ships. Reason: I personally love the 18th century ships , they are awesome in all kinds of ways. They are natural beauties. All kinds of 18th century ship-rates have their own benefit. Its great. But.. as some other people have explained in other Topics , lots of 18th century ships look the same. With this i dont mean the collour , but the design. Example: We got the L'Ocean , beautiful ship , i sailed with it and fought with it , its amazing. Its such a lovely ship. Then theres the Santisima Trinidad , same thing , i love the look of it , its great in battle , lots of cannons , amazing. But here's were my point joins in: the design of both ships is pretty simillair. Again , dont think i dont like the 18th century designs , i think they are amazing. But because they look so simillair and we have lots of those kinds of ships , i would love to see some other kids of designs. This is one of the reasons why i love the 5th rate ship of the line: La Renommee. It has kind of the same design , but the back is way different. And i think its gorgeous. Same thing with The Ingermanland , i love the ship even more because its a different kind of design. Especially in the back. Ofcourse , how a ship looks is not the only thing that matters , how their abilities proof in battle and in sailing is a very import example too. Ofcourse , 18th century ships were more developed , but 17th century ships are good in sailing. Looking at the fact of how a ship reacts on the sea , doesnt really matter in this case. But i would love to see 17th century ships in-game. I will take some examples to show you. Le Soleil Royal (1670) I choose the photo of the back , because the back is were it matters about most in this Topic. Just look at this ship. Its beautiful and very different from the ships we have in game right now. And for those who want a back story , its their too. Back Story: She was build in Brest between 1668 and 1670 by engineer Laurent Hubac. She was launched in 1669 and stayed in Brest harbour for years.She was recommissioned with 112 guns and 1200 men when the Nine years war broke out in 1688 as the flagship of the escadre du Ponant (squadron of the West). She was said to be a good sailing ship and her decorations were amongst the most beautiful and elaborate of all baroque flagships. The emblem of the "sun" had been chosen by Louis XIV as his personal symbol. One more example: Seven Provinces (Zeven Provinciën) 1665-1694 I got the same reason for the photo from the back: Matters the most in this Topic. Just look at her.. she is beautiful. The Seven provinces is my personal favorite ship. She looks stunning , has lots of cannons , and sails like she rules over the seven seas. But thats not all.. she has one hell of a back story too. Back Story: The Seven Provinces was a line ship of 'de Admiraliteit van de Maze' with 80 cannons on board , the name was also writen as: '7 provinciën'. The ship had a lenght of 163 foot and was 43 foot wide , and had a cavity of 16,5 foot. The men were with more then 420. The ship was build in 1664-1665 on admiral site at the 'HaringVliet' of Rotterdam. The builder of the ship was: Salomon Jansz van den Tempel. It began her carreer as flagship of viceadmiraal Aert Jansse Van Ness. After that it became the flag ship of luitenant-admiraal Michiel Adriaenszoon de Ruyter (1666-1674). She fought at 'de Vierdaagse zeeslag' at North Foreland (1666). She also fought at the 'Tweedagse zeeslag' (1666) , and at 'Toch van Chatham' (1667). And in the seccond English war. The ship also fought at 'Slag bij Solebay' (1672) , the 'dubbele slag bij Schooneveld' and at the 'Slag bij Kijkduin' (1673). In 1674 it went on expidition under controll of Admiral Michiel de Ruyter. After the death [ kiling of the Prince of orange] of Admiral michiel de ruyter it became the flag ship of Schout-Bij-Nacht Jan Van Brakel in 1678. In 1691 Johan snellen got the ship under controll. He died the same year on board. It also participated in the English/Dutch fleet in 1691 under the command of Edward Russel. In 1692 it got shot by the french and it caused a leak in the battle of Barfleur en La Hougue , the ship sailed back to port. After that it got sold in 1694. This is the reason i call her... unsikable , because she has never bin sunk . So why not 'wide' the time frame out to the 17th century?
  5. Fleet ships and carpenters

    Would installing a carpenter upgrade in a fleeted ship make a difference? Will it actually self repair while in battle?
  6. Rattlesnake

    Is there any possibility that we can get the generic rattlesnake into the game again? - preferably as a replacement for the cartoon h.rattlesnake..
  7. Rattlesnake

    Bring back the generic (aka the real rattlesnake) - the heavy rattlesnake is both unrealistic, ahistorical and a physical impossibility. - Just like the Snow (as a sea going vessel it shouldn't be ingame).
  8. After being in battle against a national (both in pirate frigates) I thought how pirate mechanics are supposed to offer a different gameplay - but a pirate only ship (pirate frig), through game mechanics can be sold for gold or w/e, which means the chance (certainty) that a national will be purchasing one. I suggest : When you are pirate - the armaments on your ship changes to the upgraded fit when you dock, unless it is already pirate statistics. Such as the pirate frigate vs the frigate. Same ship - different cannon fit, sail/speed bonus or whatever (the bonus/statistic change is not really relevant to the suggestion, no flamewar plz) An example of how it works: -capture a ship from a national/AI -dock at a port -captured ship then updates to its pirate statistics This can also work the opposite way if you are a national capturing a pirate: -capture a pirate ship from a pirate -dock at port -captured ship reverts to its civilian/navy statistics This would allow you to temporarily use a pirate fitted ship until you next dock, after which it reverts back. This way the nationals wouldn't be able to sail our ships whenever they want, because they would have to be a pirate to get access to the alternate fitting for the ship, or capture a pirate ship off a player and use it until you next dock. The ships would look exactly the same, but have better class, more crew, or whatever the bonus is for the ship based on how pirates used the ship differently, or w/e. No flame :^)
  9. Free ship(s)! Details inside! Call now!

    Now, this may have been suggested elsewhere, but as I've not the time nor interest to trawl through every single thread and read every single post, I'm going to throw this out here as a suggestion and gauge the reaction to it; there may be flaws in it that I've not seen. The problem below is what I've gathered from reading threads about the forum recently (I can't be in-game currently), that the grind and access to ships is an issue, particularly progression from 7th Rates to 6th Rates. This is not an answer to solve the problem entirely, but it could help. On to the issue at hand... Free ships for all! Problem: This appears to be two-fold but centered around the 'grind'. Firstly, it is difficult for new players, unaffiliated to a clan and lacking knowledge of the game, to progress from the fore-and-aft ships to square-riggers. Secondly, replacing ships can be difficult, which makes PvP unattractive due to low rewards and the difficulties from losing a valuable asset. Frederiksen's Answer: Free ships. Alright, more detail below. Now, I'm not advocating everyone having access to every ship for free. That is ludicrous. However, what if, what if the game gives you access to a free ship depending upon your rank. It is a simple concept. Currently we have the Basic Cutter. Brilliant, a free ship with free crew and repairs and is not for PvP, but gets new players started and can be used as a barge to get around for ranked up players. What if, once you reached the relevant rank for the crew numbers, the game gave you access to an Oak/Oak Sixth Rate, perhaps the Brig. The ship is free, purchased just like the Basic Cutter, but you must pay to arm it, crew it, repair it, same as a normal ship, but it is free for you to get hold of. You don't get a choice in wood types of which Sixth Rate, maybe you can't mount permanent upgrades on it and its 'knowledge' upgrades are restricted to, say, 3 boxes. That makes the free Brig viable in a basic sense as a ship to take to PvP or PvE, you can waste it in PvP without issue and get another. Yay! Taking this further, it could be done as well for Fifth Rates, maybe the Cerberus is available as a free ship, or the Renommee. It would also follow the same procedure; you pay for the crew and repairs but to get it it is free, but you lack choice in wood types, etc. Now, where this falls down is the potential for 'spam', as we saw with Basic Cutters; using a free ship to attack ships with no loss for the people using the free ship. How do we counter this? A cooldown? You can only have one free Sixth Rate per 24 hours, one free 5th Rate every 48 hours? It still gives a leg up but means that if you lose it you will need to buy a replacement ship. In short: Positives When you rank up you can 'buy' a Sixth (and maybe Fifth) Rate for free at the relevant rank (when you'd have enough men to crew it) in port, same as the Basic Cutter. This free ship has a set wood/wood type, perhaps no permanent upgrades and limited knowledge upgrades. Repairs, crew, cannon etc. are paid for as usual but the ship itself is free. Combined with other ways of incentivising PvP (decent rewards) it gives a fallback option for PvP/PvE that isn't back to square one in the Basic Cutter. Can treat it as the ship issued to you by your nation's navy (goodness knows what excuse the pirates would have, but hey). Leaves player-made ships being worthwhile as they can be customised by wood types, will have all of the upgrade/knowledge slots available to you (if you have the knowledge) and can be an investment, but if you need a free ship for some PvP, boom! You have an option. Perhaps this could be introduced for a free 7th Rate ship beyond the Basic Cutter to give new players a sense of progression. These ships cannot be traded or captured (suggested by @The Wren). Negatives Would need a means of preventing spam (my suggestion being a cooldown). It is giving stuff away for free. Anyone think of anything else that would be a problem with this? As always, thoughts on a postcard, address being the reply box below.
  10. HMS Victory

    From the album Royal Navy

  11. Hi Gents, I have stumbeld across a glitch in the matrix. I have a Agamemnon Live Oak/White Oak , Base Armor HP is 6361. Now I equip Bow Figure Elephant with +10% Base Armor HP and also Planking (4-5) +15% Armor HP. Normaly I would have ((6361*1,1+6361*1,15)-6361)= 7951 HP BUT it seems that only my planking with +15% is working and overwriting the Elephants +10%, so that I have in fact only 7236 HP. Thats not even +15% ! I thought that skillbooks and refits witch increase armor are not compatible with each other but my college has the same problem and he has equipt Elephant and Bridgetown Refit which should give him ~20% Bonus but he has also only 7236 HP. Another friend has Floating Battery +20% and Elephant +10% but also gets only 7236 HP. Is that how its intended to work or is it a bug ? Sorry for my English, but just pretend Germany won the war and you would have to learn german in school
  12. Ship Upgrade Knowledge Routesknowledge

    This thread gives information on the knowledge tree and the ship slot grind path. Whilst I started this thread, I am now using this front page to summarise the contributions from others (whose contributions are far more than my own meagre offerings). Tabulated Data Thanks to contributions from all. A giant leap of a major contribution from @Black Spawn who obtained info from the API (see his post). I converted his API data into the linked google sheet below: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Obzcvi_8W_hRJ4ceFbZ3t6b6ju9jum0Tw9liDOTYAs/edit?usp=sharing Known XP grind values are cumulative I have inserted these into the spreadsheet so far as they are known but we need more please post them up on this thread. Graphical Representation Black Spawn also provided a graphical representation of the info which you can also find in a further post below. However, a more complete graphical representation of the info so far is by @St0nkingByte who suggests you will probably need to open this fullscreen to really understand it. His graph does NOT contain ships which are not linked to others (e.g. Santa Cecilia and Rattlesnake). Seems to apply to Patch 10 so far! Has anyone got any other bits for the grind info jigsaw? If so, please post below and I will update the information as we go for general use. Buster (polishing the handle on the big front door) Sorry stuffed up the thread title...
  13. There is a great number of ships available in the current game, plenty to play around with. And forgive me if I am ignorant to the plans to add these or potentially as many ships as the developers can handle, but I think these ships are so beautiful and versatile that they should be singled out for special attention in the shipyards. Their versatility comes in that they are warships, but can be fast (as in the race-built) as well as strong, or they can serve as all but impregnable gunships with more cannons than King Georges army and enough cargo space to start a small economy off of. For a pop-culture reference; the Pirates of the Caribbean featured a race-built Galleon that specialized in chasing her prey up-wind until she inevitably caught them... That legendary vessel is the Flying Dutchman. From a tactical point of view these ships will offer a wide range of possibilities for players to experiment with from hunting cocky little Lynx's or living a merchants life in a ship as tough as a concrete fortresses, they could bridge gaps where rage-quits and salt stood before.
  14. Add Helms to New Ship Models

    I can't see a helm on any of the current ships atleast on the 1st rates I use.
  15. Losing In-Game-Goods

    How long does it take to get back ships/upgrades you lose when the game messes up? I've sent in two F11's regarding my two missing ships and several missing upgrades and was wondering how long the wait time is.
  16. I haven't been on awhile and i loved the Wappen von hamburg, and im wondering if there is any ships on the way into the game that i have forgotten? Mass (Jachen Syren Mass ) Ingame FRANCE :))
  17. Shipjacking

    Ahoy fellow captains and devs, after a current new start with little ressources in pirate nation i got an interesting idea to make odds for new players a little easier: Steal a ship! Especially in the beginning you have little use for your labour hours, so why not use them for hijacking a ship (preferable a NPC ship) in harbour? The task demands a careful preparation and execution, so the use of a similar amount of LH like with building seems reasonable. This feature would allow new and low level players to acquire different and perhaps better ships or materials/BP for crafting, if you break up the stolen ships. To prevent abuse, it should be not possible to sell the ship in the same harbour. If desired to make it more difficult, shipjacking could be only possible in enemy port, but then it should be allowed to leave even in a warship (perhaps without guns?). In a nutshell: - Use Labour Hours to steal a ship - Only NPC ships can be stolen - You can't steal and sell or break up the ship in the same port - You can only steal ships in enemy port (optional) I'm happy about any comment or discussion. o7 and always six feet water under your keel!
  18. Might I suggest players when crafting a ship that we have the option to craft a ship note or craft straight to a ship. Make ship notes stackable. We then store ship notes in our warehouse. Or, simply give us dockyards to store ships for clanmates. PS make paints craftable and stackable also. Plz and ty.
  19. I dont know if it is intentional or not. It seems that Im forced to have several forests to farm the required compass wood to craft a BS or Stiffness ship. The % drop rate is lower than the fine woods so the need of collect insane amounts of woods is still there. I have the impression that getting fine woods was easier due to a higher drop, due to the fact that several ports sold them and thanks to the bottles.
  20. Escapomatrix

    Ahoy there! After much studying of the ships' various speed profiles, I realised that I could use these, together with their default speed values, to calculate how best to escape enemy ships attempting to pursue you. It turns out that almost all ships can escape almost all others, or at least outrun them rather competently on at least one point of sail. Here is a link to the Escapomatrix; my attempt at illustrating these points, unfortunately only going so far as to include the ships available at Master and Commander. I will add more as I progress.
  21. USS Constitution Hull Rework

    Hi there, I recall the developers saying that USS Constitution was due for a hull refit on her 3d model, both in terms of shape (currently a bit boxier than in the real world) and in terms of stern decorations. Any word as to when these changes will be effected? Thanks--
  22. When will indefatigable and endymion be added and also how to be gifted and rewarded the Santa Cecilia? (First post in a year so.. kinda rusty. AND do somone have pics of the two frigates or something if so pls care to post )) Mass ( Jachen syren Mass ( In-game ) French And a pic for extra wiff
  23. Gallant Galleys/Galleases (and Xebecs)

    I will be getting plans for these ships to put into a thread on Shipyard as well The galley, one of the most common fighting ships in both the Mediterranean and Baltic seas as a result of its speed, agility, and ease to build. Why not add it to Naval Action? They played an integral part in the navies of some of the greatest naval powers in both the Baltic and Mediterranean: the Swedes, Danes, and later Russians in the former and the Ottomans and Venicians in the latter. This ship, with only bow cannons, would be able to sail or row its way to defeat enemy ships, mostly by use of its marines. These ships would add alot to PVP, especially to port battles, due to its ability to make way quickly where ever the wind may be blowing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galley Sidenote: Galleys were used in the Caribbean Another kind of ship, the Xebec, which was better for sailing on the open oceans, was also used, especially by barbary pirates in the Caribbean. It featured 2/3 masts (some square rigged) and oars for propulsion, and side guns for fighting. It would not have been used as exensively for boarding as the galley, but was still fit for that purpose. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xebec Another ship, similar to the xebec in that it also had broadside capability, was the Galleas. It was similar to the Galley in that it had a similar ship, however it was wider and able to carry more and thus was used often as a trade ship. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galleass I would also like to add that the galley was used against ships of the line in the Great Northern War between Sweden and Russia (Saxony, Denmark, Poland, the Ottomans, and later the Brits, Hannover, and the Prussians also played a role), and pitted the newly created navy of Peter the Great (the Ingermanland being part of his arsenal) against the experienced Swedish navy. With the help of Venetian shipbuilders, Peter built a grand navy of fast and agile galleys that his skillful commander, Apraxin, used against the ships of the line of the Swedish navy, using the shallow draft (of the galleys) and the poor maneuverability of the Swedish ships to his advantage, successfully capturing multiple by boarding (A great book on this topic is Peter the Great by Robert K. Massie). My point is that these kinds of rowed ships, especially the galleys and xebecs, are by no means outdated in this time period, as the aforementioned galleys served in the same Baltic fleet as the Ingermanland, and had an arguably stronger impact. These galleys, it should be noted, (the ones in the Baltic) were used mostly in shallow areas and were mostly for boarding. The xebecs were basically light frigates (like a Cerberus) with oars and the galleases were light frigates with oars used often for trading. Real uses of galleys on the world's oceans during the timeperiod of the game: ]A large naval battle with galleys: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_M%C3%A1laga_(1704)) Midsized battle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grengam Example of galleys swarming stranded ship successfully: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hogland_(1705)
  24. Ships of Naval Action

    Ahoy fellow Captains, I've been away for a while but recently come back in a more time-limited capacity. I see there's a few new ships and there have been a number of tweaks to previous ships, etc. For this reason I've knocked together a broad comparison of ships in Naval Action looking at some fundamental statistics for each ship. Here is a link to the actual comparison chart. And here is a link to the discussion on reddit, such that it is at present. For the sake of those of you who don't use reddit so much I'll copy my comments from the above post below the following (hopefully) embedded comparison chart: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ships of Naval Action Introduction I've spent some time away from the game and have recently picked it up again in more limited spare time. With a fair deal of recent updates and tweaks, I thought I'd knock together a quick graph comparing the ships of Naval Action and give a few comments on balance. I wrote a lot about the need to nerf the Rattlesnake after she was launched, together with a whole load of other folks, and am happy to see that her stats have been brought down a bit for the sake of balance. Please note: I'm not writing this because I necessarily want anything to change, I haven't played enough recently to know whether that is entirely necessary or not. However, I note that there is still an absence of decent documentation comparing the various ships in Naval Action quantitatively, and because I work a lot with quantitative data I find it quite fun to make graphs and analyses such as these! So yeah - I'm not writing this to complain or even suggest anything about balance - it's just here to help folks understand the variation in ships. Also, if someone does wish to make a point about balance or the merits of any ship, this may serve as the foundation for a discussion. Balance is notoriously difficult to discuss objectively because everyone has favourite ships, personal anecdotes, particular skills and tricks such that consensus is very hard to reach. Hence my intention with the graph above is primarily to illustrate the variation among ships for players and grant a decent overview and secondarily to give anobjective foundation for a potential discussion on balance. Naturally you can't present every variable of a ship in one graph so I have attempted to focus on the most relevant ones and portray them in an easily understandable way. Methods Before discussing the graph above, here's how the various qualities were measured/calculated (you can skip to the TL:DR of the methods section if you're not interested): Gunnery was calculated using two equally weighted factors; DPS and total damage per broadside. This was calculated using a loadout of medium cannons. For both of these factors, each ship had its value divided by that of the average of all ships, giving the fraction of the average that this ship scored. From these scores 1 was subtracted so that a ship with the same score as the average of all ships would have 0. The two scores (DPS and broadside damage) were then combined and divided by two producing the value you see on the Y axis in the graph above. This means that a ship with a score around -0.5, like the Snow, has 50% weaker guns than the average in Naval Action while a ship with a score nearer 1.0, like the Bucentaure has 100% more powerful guns than the average, i.e. double. Resilience was calculated in the same manner as Gunnery, above. However here the two equally weighted factors were armour thickness and structure. So a ship with a score of 0 along the X axis has a resilience equal to the average of all ships, while a a ship around 0.5, like the Bellona, is considered 50% more resilient. Speed is simply the maximum speed of the vessel and gives the colour of the markers in the graph. Blue is slow and Red is fast with a gradient in between. Best Point(s) is a measure of which point relative the wind a ship is at its fastest. Some ships have multiple points at which they can reach their maximum speed. The value of this parameter gives the shape of the markers in the chart. Circles are most common as most ships sail their fastest around point 135 (sailing at a broad reach). TL:DR: The X axis is resilience (a measure of how tough the ship is), the Y axis is gunnery (a measure of how strong the ship's guns are), the colour of the markers gives speed (check the chart top right) and the shape of the markers give the point relative the wind at which the ship sails its fastest. Limitations Naturally this set up leaves out a number of factors. Firstly, gunnery-wise, some ships are set up to carry heavier carronades than others - these details are missed when all ships use medium cannons. Connected to this is the issue of penetration; some ships can carry heavier guns with higher penetration scores, these subtleties are also not captured by the above graph. The presence or absence of bow chasers and stern chasers is not addressed. Nor is the crew complement required to fully work a broadside of guns. Etc. Basically, the gunnery score is a very straightforward measure of damage output capability and does not take into account many of the subtleties of naval combat (some of which I discuss in my gun guide - note that this guide contains slightly outdated statistics, but the principles therein remain true). Secondly, resilience-wise, all ships have their default values (which are later modified by wood type), which is worth remembering as this affects both structure, armour thickness and speed. Sail strength and mast thickness are not taken into account. Factors potentially important in combat such as the degree to which a ship heels, its dimensions, crew, gun positioning, etc. are also not taken into account. Also not that turning rate is not included in the analysis. Finally, in terms of best point(s), bear in mind that ships each have their own sailing profiles (most of which I have detailed in my ship guide - note that this guide may contain slightly outdated information in other respects). These differences in sailing qualities mean that two ships both being fastest at point 135 may yet have very different capabilities at other points. For example, the Constitution reaches maximum speed around point 135 but sails at 84% speed at point 90, while Le Gros Ventre reaches maximum speed also at point 135 yet sails at 96% speed at point 90. It is useful to be aware of these details as they allow slower ships to escape from certain faster ones by using their best point of sail (I have previously made a chart illustrating this; my escapomatrix). Unrated Vessels It is very clear that the Rattlesnake Heavy far outclasses all other unrated vessels in terms of resilience and gunnery. The extra guns per side (totaling 13 a broadside) really tell. Likewise, both her structure and armor thickness are higher than all other unrated vessels. Her DPS is in fact higher than the Cerberus, although this is due to both having 13 guns of different sizes. The 9-pounders of the Cerberus have a higher damage per broadside (and indeed penetration) while the faster reload of the 6-pounders aboard the Rattlesnake Heavy translate to a marginally higher DPS. The Rattlesnake remains the fastest square-rigged unrated vessel despite her top speed being strongly nerfed. TheLynx is the fastest unrated vessel but perform best at points 45 or 90. The only ship that performs best at point 45 alone, the Privateer, is here shown to be slightly more resilient than the Cutter and Yacht but clearly less resilient than the Pickle. All these ships have the same armament and hence score the same in terms of gunnery. The square-rigged unrated vessels have seen changes increasing their balance; the Niagara and Brig, both faster than the others, represent ships focusing more on gunnery and resilience, respectively. Similarly, the Snow compares in the way to the Navy Brig and Mercury, offering a focus on gunnery over their focus on resilience. The potentially most problematic unrated vessels are the Rattlesnake and Rattlesnake Heavy. The Rattlesnake being still very much faster than the other ships of her class (and indeed in possession of bow chasers) and the Rattlesnake Heavy being faster, more resilient and more heavily armed than all other comparable ships. Indeed it is difficult to see any drawbacks to her other than a potentially (and presumably) prohibitive cost. Frigates Unsurprisingly the Cerberus and Renommee group as light frigates, the former mostly due to its smaller size and crew capacity and the latter due to its massive tradeoff in favour of speed over resilience and gunnery. The Surprise is the only ship which excels at both point 90 and 135, but pays the price of this perk by being significantly weaker in terms of resilience and gunnery to the other frigates. Around the origin of the graph there is a cluster of fifth-rate frigates. The Essex, Frigate (and pirate version), Belle Poule and (tentatively) the Santa Cecilia all represent various points along a number of tradeoffs, chiefly between resilience, personified in the Belle Poule, and gunnery, personified in theSanta Cecilia. Naturally a number of subtleties also differentiate these ships such as the Essex's ability to carry far heavier carronades than the others. However I will not discuss these at great length here but instead just note on a good balance between these ships. The Trincomalee stands in a class of her own, however, being faster, stronger and more well-armed than any of the other frigates. It is very clear from her position in the graph above why she is so often the favourite of Captains in Naval Action. The Constitution represents the super-heavy frigate of the game. She is in fact more resilient than the 4th rate Ingermanland, yet not as well-armed. Slower than the other frigates, but still faster than ships of the line, it is clear from the graph above just how much more powerful she is to the other frigates. Ships of the Line The Indiaman, though not really a ship of the line, stands out in the graph above because of her slow speed (blue colour). Although her gunnery score is merely on par with a Renommee, it is worth noting that she is more resilient than a Trincomalee, even though she is far more fragile than even the weakest 4th rate ship of the line; theIngermanland. The Ingermanland has a slightly lower damage output than the other 4th rate; the Agamemnon, although bear in mind that she carries 32-pounders in her lower gundeck compared to the slightly smaller 24-pounders of the Agamemnon. The slightly higher penetration that this affords her is arguably not worth the much lower resilience and lesser speed compared to the Agamemnon. Besides being the clearly fastest of all ships of the line, the Agamemnon can even outpace the Constitution, Santa Cecilia, Frigate and Pirate Frigate. She can even catch Le Gros Ventre and the Indiaman (on her best line). The 3rd rate ships of the line are represented by the 3rd Rate and Bellona. Despite appearing very similar, these two ships have subtle differences. The Bellona has higher damage per broadside (and indeed penetration) on account of carrying 32 pounders in her lower gundeck while the 3rd Rate has higher DPS on account of carrying smaller 24-pounders. The Bellona is also more resilient than the 3rd Rate with significantly higher structure. Of the two 2nd rates, the Bucentaure trumps the St. Pavel in all respects. She is faster (and turns faster), has more and more powerful guns, and is more resilient. The three 1st rates are similar, yet L'ocean and Santisima Trinidad are both more heavily armed than the Victory, although it is worth mentioning that the Victory has 12-pounders on her uppermost battery compared to the 9-pounders of the others. However, the far increased firepower of L'Ocean andSantisima Trinidad ultimately come down to their much greater number of guns. In terms of resilience, the Victory andSantisima Trinidad are essentially equal, while L'Ocean has an edge on both in terms of structure. Speed-wise, the three of them are all slower than every other ship, with the Victory being the slowest of all. Conclusion The graph above is an attempt to visualize the variation in ships of Naval Action according to some key characteristics. While the statistics used in no way fully define each ship, they should give a good indication of their general strengths/weaknesses/role and provide sufficient objective foundation for Captains to find a ship that suits them as well as for potential discussion on ship balance. Personally, I feel there are a few instances where, sadly, one ship is simply a more powerful option (almost or completely across the board) compared to others. In other words, the only reason not to opt for these vessels would be price. Whether that is a good thing or not depends on your take on design. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing some form of trade-off adjusted or introduced to make their counterparts more viable or vice versa. These are: The Rattlesnake Heavy, which trumps all other square-rigged unrated vessels in all regards. The Trincomalee, which is superior to all other fifth-rate frigates in essentially all regards. The Agamemnon, which is far superior to the Ingermanland. The Bellona, which is simply better than the 3rd Rate. The Bucentaure, which beats the St. Pavel in every regard. What do you guys think? Best Regards to all my fellow Captains!
  25. There is some wonderful art work in these ships that the NA artists have captured nicely (imho). I was wondering which ship(s) are your favorites and why. I'll start: 1) the Bellona has captured my imaginings as a beautiful ship, the NA ship itself is very nicely done. In battle it almost seems immoral to hack to bits and sink one BUT this is war after all. This ship has nice handling vs gun balance and really nice to sail. 2) the Victory- it's just a nicely crafted ship, the looks are wonderful and for a 1st rate it still handles reasonably well. And the Guns, guns, guns... need I say more. 3) the Rattlesnake, Niagara and Mercury - are nicely made and look cool graphically. The Rattler because it's fast and low and the Merc due to it's good guns- handling balance given it's rate. 4) the Bucenture/Ingermanland, I think they look great for big ships and still hold their own in battle. Both have canons that should rate them one level higher but I'm glad they are in the rating they are. 5) the Trincomalee, a real life ship that NA has captured very nicely in game. I have crafted many and its' construction has moved up the crafting rank to 50. 6) finally the Snow, only because it started my Naval career and has lots of pebble throwers. Nicely done to all team/graphics departments for creating these wonderful works of art. Now if only I could sailing (more often) in real life it would make my day. My least favs are: Santi - a fortress doesn't need maneuverability. L'OCean - same as Santi. Indiaman/LGV - but it's for movin cargo Cap'n. Lynx - delicate and good for learning, not for battles imho. St Pavel - kinda homely looking but has strong guns and armour, to bad about the front chasers. Ships I would like to try but haven't: St Cecil, Agamemnon,and Heavy Rattler (I know it isn't out yet). Good hunting fellow Captains, Let's Splice the Main Brace soon.
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