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  1. Fluffy Fishy

    36 and 42lb Cannons

    The state of cannons right now is a little unusual, and while it has been ok for the game to this point, the upcoming Wreker and Téméraire class ships currently in development are likely to change this and we are soon likely to see a risk of the game balance being rocked in the future, with both Téméraire and Wreker able to equip 36s and with Wreker somewhat more notably likely able to equip 32s on her second deck. Under the game mechanics as they are this means that both these ships would be able to also equip the heaviest standard armament in the game, the 42lb cannon, which a potentially creats some weird looking situations where we have people running around in 3rd rates with 42lb guns or we end up rating Téméraire as a 2nd rate, neither are desirable outcomes in my opinion. I would like to propose breaking up 36s and 42s. As I understand it the cannons in question are based off the British 42lb and the French 36lb, who's shot weights are as follows: British 42lb: Shot weight 19.026kg, Gun Weight 3957kg (short cut 42 from Victory, standard would be heavier) French 36lb: Shot weight 17.064kg, Gun Weight 3643kg (standard long 36 from Boudroit's figures) With the accessibility of cannon classes currently set up like this: 42lb, 36lb 32lb 24lb 18lb, Edinorog 12lb 9lb N/A 6lb 4lb 4lb Basic 2lb This is somewhat of a bizarre set up in two areas, 1st and 7th class. 1st class is bizarre as the only class to contain two distinctly different gun weightings, while 7th class is even more illusive due to the fact it contains no cannons at all, only the 18lb carronade. What would make infinitely more sense to the game would be to rerate everything slightly so as to have cannon classes set up as follows. 42lb 36lb 32lb 24lb 18lb, Edinorog 12lb 9lb 6lb 4lb 4lb Basic 2lb The other benefits of this is you could reassess which ships could potentially equip each class of cannon more precisely, potentially leaving the most powerful 42lb for Pavel, Victory and leaving Ocean, Santissima, Téméraire, Bucentaure and Wreker equipped with the slightly smaller calibre of 36lb gun, this would not only give a slightly more realistic historic armament flavour but also create a nice little way to look at balance more seriously, with the 36lb gun being a little worse on the DPS, which allows both Pavel and Victory to be more competitive amongst their similarly rated ships, hopefully promoting more variety in combat. As a little side note I'm uncertain whether Ocean would be able to carry 42s or not, the 300kg difference between the French 36 and the British shortest variant of the 42 isn't hugely significant to a ship the size of Ocean although it would be a nice balance point, meanwhile I severely doubt Santissima would be able to mount the British 42 safely, had she not been wrecked in the storm and then enlisted into the British fleet following Trafalgar I can't see her being armed with anything heavier than the British 32s. To summarise, please could we consider splitting the 42 and 36lb guns up into separate classes to avoid potential balance issues with the current ships in development but also add more flavour and realistic armaments to the various ships we already have in game for the pursuit of balance and accuracy. Thanks for reading.
  2. History Fama was the flagship of the last great Admiral of the Venetian Republic Angelo Emo, who captained the ship during his continuous missions hunting down Barbary pirate including the siege of Tunis in 1785. Angelo Praised Fama for her considerable speed and agility naming the ship as comfortably the best Venice had. The plans for Fama were drawn up in 1782 and 6 ships were laid, of which 5 were completed she was constructed in the Venetian Arsenal by Giovanni Domenico Giacomazzi, who was considered the best venetian shipwright in of his time and built accordingly the "ad ordinata doppia" system which was implement in 1780 by Angelo Emo who after studying the construction techniques used by the English and the French, hoped to match them or even surpass them. Fama herself spent most of her career in active service, either stationed off of Corfu with the main detachment of the Venetian navy, ready to face threats from threats to the mouth of the Adriatic by the Ottomans or other hostile nations or spent hunting Pirates over the Mediterranean or Barbary Coast. Fama was captured alongside the rest of the Venetian fleet by Napoleon in 1797 when she was briefly renamed Renomee and then renamed again to Du Blois a month later. After her capture she was sailed to Tulon where she was rearmed with slightly smaller guns to fit French standards to take part in Napoleon's Egyptian expedition where she unfortunately collided with the French flagship "L'Orient", suffering severe damage. Despite her damage she remained to Alexandria and was used as headquarters by General Kleber was later partially sunk to block the entrance into Alexandria, she was then captured by the British and sadly broken up without the French, nor British ever realising her potential as a swift and powerful shock ship or as a strong commerce escort and pirate hunter. The Fama Class were given heavy armaments to match larger capital ships but maintaining the speed, versatility and agility of a frigate, thus the name Fregata Grossa came about, translating to Large Frigate, The ideas behind the Fregata Grossa rated ships were to hit hard and fast, able to set combat to their own advantage the theory was a cross between their contemporary super frigates and modern battlecruisers. They also contain similar thoughts used in the huge super frigates of the later 19th century but obviously without the steam engines to power them. The 6 Ships of the Fama Class were: Fama (1784) Gloria Veneta (1794) Le Stengel (1797) Le Beyrand (1797) Diamante (1797) Unnamed (uncompleted) Fama and Gloria Veneta both served under the Venetian Republic with considerable distinction. The other ships of the class were completed during the French and Austrian Occupation periods. Le Stengal and Beyrand both served briefly in the Napoleonic fleet and were then transferred to Austria as part of the peace deal. Diamante was badly damaged during the French Looting period and was patched up but sailed poorly, to deal with this she was armed from head to toe with 24lb guns and used as a floating battery, later she was repaired and served in the Austrian navy as a troop transport ship. A further Unnamed ship of the class was laid but damaged beyond salvation and was sadly broken up with parts being used to outfit other ships but mostly used as firewood. Fama well represents the Venetian Naval doctrine of the time, Venice continuing to fight with a hybrid fleet of Galeass, Galleys and Frigates, due to the history and nature of what remained of the Venetian Empire. Her outfitting, speed and manoeuvrability made her a great shock ship with a strong punch, able to hunt down pirates and operate well in shallow waters and archipelagos with complex coastlines. She is also incredibly well suited for the calm waters of the Mediterranean and able to produce good speed no matter the wind conditions. She was praised for her sailworthiness by her captains and considered the jewel in the late Venetian Fleet. Details Fama was considered a Secondo Rango Fregata Grossa within the Venetian Fleet, then after she was captured by the French she was reclassified as a 3rd rate, although if she were in the game she would likely be similarly placed as Agamemnon, among the 4th rates. Her measurements are (peidi are the Venetian feet): Total Length: 138 piedi or 48.00 meters Keel: 122 piedi or 42.42 meters Width: 37 piedi or 12.86 meters Draft: 17.5 piedi or 6.08 meters (when under French service: 16 fore, 18ft aft (5.2-5.85m)) Bilge Tip (height between the keel and deck): 28 piedi or 9.73m She was crewed by around 450-500 men, depending on how many sailors Venice could muster at the time. The Venetian state had a continuous issue with raising the appropriate number of men to serve on her navies during the later years of the republic. Fama had similar crew numbers to her contemporary 64s by other navies, however due to her smaller size these men served in even more cramp conditions than was generally experienced by the worlds navies, her officers quarters were equally as confined, especially considering that she was used for most of her career as an admiral's flagship, although these close natured lodgings were something the Venetians were always used to back at home in Venice. She sailed incredibly well and was praised for being hugely fast and agile, giving her the best ability to perform her main tasks, protecting merchant shipping and hunting down pirates. Her performance under sail is fairly well documented, receiving universal commendation from the officers who sailed her. I have not yet found any information about how she heeled, rolled and other similar specifics, as Venice had no sailing queries similar to the Royal Navy. Armaments Fama Carried 66 Guns, and her four chasers, below is a make up of weight and armaments during both the French and Venetian outfitting. She also had the potential to point the two cannons nearest the bow on the main gun deck in a forwards direction to aid the 2 dedicated chase guns situated either side of the foremast and 2 rear facing guns. During Venetian period by Venetian Weight 26 x 40lb (26.5 British pounds) (12.04 kg) 26 x 30lb (20 British pounds) (9.03 kg) 14 x 14lb (9 British pounds) (4.21 kg) 2x 14lb (9 British lb) Bow Chasers (4.21 kg) 2x 14lb (9 British lb) Stern Chasers (4.21 kg) Broadside Weight = 1008 Venetian Pounds (667.5 British Pounds) (303.4 kg) French Period By French Weight (reduced to a 64) 26 x 24lb (11.74 kg) 26 x 18lb (8.8 kg) 12 x 6lb (2.93 kg) 2 x 6lb Bow Chasers (2.93 kg) 2 x 6lb Stern Chasers (2.93 kg) Broadside Weight = 588 French Pound (634.75 British Pounds) (287.5kg) Plans The most true plans, showing the proper lines of of either La Fama or Gloria Veneta, as said below in a post stating the edit history of this thread. This is the only record showing the proper 66 broadside gun ports, although the plan below does miss her bow chasers. The other plans like with her sister ship Stengel show the correct lines, but sadly show incorrect positioning for the guns on the quarterdeck, the other plans show only 6 guns either side (12 in total) from when she was reduced to a 64 rather than the true build when she had 7 (14), which are shown correctly here. This is a modern reproduction by Guido Ercole, there are a couple of minor mistakes where she is shown having 28 guns, not her proper 26 on both her gun decks, she is also missing a gun on her weather deck. The rest of the reproduction is still accurate, with the sail plan and also shows a nice idea of what she would have looked like painted. Some less detailed plans, most likely showing Stengel, after she has one of her weather deck gun ports removed making her into a 64. Rough Planking and Framing Methods used Art Many Thanks go to Sella22 for letting me use some of his resources, I would really love to see this ship in the game, she would be a fantastic addition. Thank you for Reading.
  3. After extensive research i felt ready to start modelling the Bucentaure class 2nd rate French ship. Since information about this type is very scarse despite being one of the backbones of french navy in the era next to Temeraire and Ocean classes, luckyly enough after reading and googling about every Tonnant and Bucentaure class ship for information i was able to find some referencess including captured tonnant plans, bucentaure lines plans from a french book by Jean Boudriot and excellent Bucentaure class model "Friedland" in the french naval museum with photos from their site and in the books as well, and paintings of the classes from the era i started laying the lines for this magnificent ship. So here is the first screanshot very early in progress. I will post updates as i work through it. Hope youll like it
  4. This is the ship i want the most because its proper cool french ship and she could be a flagship for ships And i have to say a french looking ship could be nice, because i want to be a frenchman and then i want somthing that can match english ships.
  5. GreatTimo

    Time Frame Ships.

    Hello Everyone. I wanted to tell/ask something. The time frame of ships in-game/that are possible to be in game are ships that are build in 1690-1820. This means we will get lots of 18th century ships , gotta love them. Dont get me wrong , i love 18th century ships , they look awesome , the sailing is amazing. They all have something great. Gotta love those ships. But what i was wondering: Why not make the time frame a little...wider? With this "wider" effect i mean: 17th century ships. Reason: I personally love the 18th century ships , they are awesome in all kinds of ways. They are natural beauties. All kinds of 18th century ship-rates have their own benefit. Its great. But.. as some other people have explained in other Topics , lots of 18th century ships look the same. With this i dont mean the collour , but the design. Example: We got the L'Ocean , beautiful ship , i sailed with it and fought with it , its amazing. Its such a lovely ship. Then theres the Santisima Trinidad , same thing , i love the look of it , its great in battle , lots of cannons , amazing. But here's were my point joins in: the design of both ships is pretty simillair. Again , dont think i dont like the 18th century designs , i think they are amazing. But because they look so simillair and we have lots of those kinds of ships , i would love to see some other kids of designs. This is one of the reasons why i love the 5th rate ship of the line: La Renommee. It has kind of the same design , but the back is way different. And i think its gorgeous. Same thing with The Ingermanland , i love the ship even more because its a different kind of design. Especially in the back. Ofcourse , how a ship looks is not the only thing that matters , how their abilities proof in battle and in sailing is a very import example too. Ofcourse , 18th century ships were more developed , but 17th century ships are good in sailing. Looking at the fact of how a ship reacts on the sea , doesnt really matter in this case. But i would love to see 17th century ships in-game. I will take some examples to show you. Le Soleil Royal (1670) I choose the photo of the back , because the back is were it matters about most in this Topic. Just look at this ship. Its beautiful and very different from the ships we have in game right now. And for those who want a back story , its their too. Back Story: She was build in Brest between 1668 and 1670 by engineer Laurent Hubac. She was launched in 1669 and stayed in Brest harbour for years.She was recommissioned with 112 guns and 1200 men when the Nine years war broke out in 1688 as the flagship of the escadre du Ponant (squadron of the West). She was said to be a good sailing ship and her decorations were amongst the most beautiful and elaborate of all baroque flagships. The emblem of the "sun" had been chosen by Louis XIV as his personal symbol. One more example: Seven Provinces (Zeven Provinciën) 1665-1694 I got the same reason for the photo from the back: Matters the most in this Topic. Just look at her.. she is beautiful. The Seven provinces is my personal favorite ship. She looks stunning , has lots of cannons , and sails like she rules over the seven seas. But thats not all.. she has one hell of a back story too. Back Story: The Seven Provinces was a line ship of 'de Admiraliteit van de Maze' with 80 cannons on board , the name was also writen as: '7 provinciën'. The ship had a lenght of 163 foot and was 43 foot wide , and had a cavity of 16,5 foot. The men were with more then 420. The ship was build in 1664-1665 on admiral site at the 'HaringVliet' of Rotterdam. The builder of the ship was: Salomon Jansz van den Tempel. It began her carreer as flagship of viceadmiraal Aert Jansse Van Ness. After that it became the flag ship of luitenant-admiraal Michiel Adriaenszoon de Ruyter (1666-1674). She fought at 'de Vierdaagse zeeslag' at North Foreland (1666). She also fought at the 'Tweedagse zeeslag' (1666) , and at 'Toch van Chatham' (1667). And in the seccond English war. The ship also fought at 'Slag bij Solebay' (1672) , the 'dubbele slag bij Schooneveld' and at the 'Slag bij Kijkduin' (1673). In 1674 it went on expidition under controll of Admiral Michiel de Ruyter. After the death [ kiling of the Prince of orange] of Admiral michiel de ruyter it became the flag ship of Schout-Bij-Nacht Jan Van Brakel in 1678. In 1691 Johan snellen got the ship under controll. He died the same year on board. It also participated in the English/Dutch fleet in 1691 under the command of Edward Russel. In 1692 it got shot by the french and it caused a leak in the battle of Barfleur en La Hougue , the ship sailed back to port. After that it got sold in 1694. This is the reason i call her... unsikable , because she has never bin sunk . So why not 'wide' the time frame out to the 17th century?
  6. Bonjour à tous, certains l'attendaient le voici le voila, Navalaction-france ouvre ses portes. Pas mal de contenu pour le moment et encore qui arrive cette semaine. N'hésitez pas à vous inscrire sur le forum pour faire vivre la communauté francophone du jeu et à nous faire part de vos suggestions ou avis concernant l'architecture, le visuel ou le contenu du site ou du forum. Navalaction-france est un site de fan dédié à Naval Action ayant pour but de créer une communauté de joueurs autour du jeu. Le site comporte des articles concernant les navires, des histoires de batailles, des guides et bien d'autres choses. On attend vos retour! Visiter Navalaction-France
  7. Sir_Wiener_Von_Snitzel

    Le Soleil Royal, 1670 (With Plans)

    Le Soleil Royal (1670) Displacement: 1,630 tonnes Length: 61 m (200 ft) Beam: 15.64 m (51.3 ft) Draught: 7.64 m (25.1 ft) Complement: 836 Armament: 104 guns:
  8. Beautiful French medium sized ship could be a great match for a newly added USS Niagara! 'Amazon' 1745 Description unavailable. Plans
  9. La Sardoine 1757 French 4-pdr Corvette 12-18 guns Built by J.-L. Coulomb in Nantes. Captured in 1761 by the British 5th-Rate brig-sloop HMS Alarm (32 guns + 12 swivel-guns, 1758) and renamed HMS Sardoine. La Sardoine as taken off, prior to fitting as a 14-gun ship sloop http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83948.html Plan showing the quarterdeck, forecastle, upper deck, and after platforms and magazine for La Sardoine Second plan of La Sardoine as taken off, prior to fitting as a 14-gun ship sloop. Note that there are no waterlines represented on this one. Historical armament : As she's been pierced by 18 portholes since French building, she could carry up to 18 x 4-pdr + swivel guns. and nothing excludes such an armament during war time. Known armament from sources : French service : Built with 12 x 4-pdr (Boudriot, Historique de la Corvette) 14 x 4-pdr + 6 Swivel guns (31 pds) (threedecks.org) British service : 14 x 4-pdr (Ian McLaughlhan, Sloop of War 1650-1763) 14 × 4-pdr + 10 ½-pdr Swivel guns (30, 5 pds) (threedecks.org) Suggestion for in-game armament : 12-18 x 4-pdr (giving a broadside weight = 24-36 pds), filling the 'gap' between in-game Lynx (8 x 6-pdr = 24 pds) and the Pickle / Privateer / Cutter (12 x 6-pdr = 36 pds). Nota : a 'sardoine' (sard or sardius in English) is a 'yellow or brownish-red semi-precious stone consisting of a variety of chalcedony'. Dimensions Dimensions of 4-pdr Corvettes (16 guns) made by Coulomb in the same year (see below) (pieds du Roi) : Length between perpendiculars : 100' Breadth overall to outside of frame : 25' Depth in hold from top of the keel to the line of the deck at the middle line : 12, 6' Dimensions of La Sardoine (before British refit) from threedecks.org (pieds du Roi) : Length of gundeck : 91'0" Breadth : 23'6" Depth in hold : 9'6" Displacement : c. 300 ton Burthen : 165 ton Dimensions of HMS Sardoine (after refit) from threedecks.org (imperial feet) : Length of gundeck : 94' 4 ½ " Length of keel : 78' 9 ¼ " Breadth : 24' 8 ½ " Depth in hold : 10' 1 ½ " Burthen : 255 74/94 tons BM Sources : J. Boudriot, Historique de la Corvette, p. 30 Ian McLauglhan, Sloop of War 1650-1763 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=15602 http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83948.html Extract of Ian McLauglhan's Sloop of War 1650-1763 about La Sardoine : "[..] was built at Nantes to the design of Jacques-Luc Coulomb. She had four sisters;in fact the French Navy commisioned nine corvettes designed by Coulomb, most listed as 100ft lenght on deck. [...] If the corvettes produced under the supervision of Blaise Ollivier appear extreme in hull design, they are nothing compared to Sardoine, whose sections exhibit an exaggerated version of the earlier designs. Sardoine was builit thirteen years later after La Palme and in addition to her highly developed hull, she was about 10ft longer and was pierced for nine guns a side, though armed with only twelve 4pdrs. She was commissioned into the Royal Navy at Portsmouth in 1761 and given an extra pair of 4pdrs. The waterlines in the half-breadth plan provide a clear view of the remarkably fine ends of this vessel, particulary that of the run. Her sheer plan shows the French preference for only a light degree of rake at bow and stern, but there is exaggeration in that her sternpost is actually raked forwards, Like the earlier corvettes, she has a marked degree of tumblehome which may help stability by bringing the weight of the gguns closer to the centreline but at the same time it would have made their handling difficult, possibly reducing their rate of fire; it was also less effective at dampening rolling than more 'wall-sided' designs. [...] She is shown with a raised quarterdeck and forecastle on the plan, which is dated April 1761 (ie before the prize was formally purchased), so these are probably as captured; the height underneath them is only 5ft aft and 4ft 6in forward." Contemporary 4-pdr Corvettes built by J.- L. Coulomb (from Boudriot) : Sister ships of La Sardoine according to threedecks.org : https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_class&id=535 L’Ecureuil (Nantes, 1756) La Jacinthe (Brest, 1756) La Renoncule (Nantes, 1757) L’Arc-en-ciel (?) (Brest, 1758) Voyages of La Sardoine La Sardoine sailed for la Martinique. Later, captured by the British in the Bay of Biscay. As HMS Sardoine, she then sailed for the West Indies and New York. Thx to @Sella22 and @Surcouf for their help !!!!
  10. L'Amarante French 4-pdr Corvette 1747 - 1760 12 guns Dimensions : Length between perpendiculars : 84' Breadth overall to outside of frame : 22' Depth in hold from top of the keel to the line of the deck at the middle line : 10' Armament : 12 x 4-pdr Built in Brest by Joseph-Louis Ollivier. Monograph and plans : http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/Ama/plaquette.htm Sister ships : La Palme, 1744 and L'Anémone, 1747. http://www.laroyale-modelisme.net/t12151-expo-et-conferences-au-pays-de-saint-malo Source : J. Boudriot, La Créole, p. 19
  11. Sibylle 1792 Sibylle was a 38-gun Hébé class frigate of the French Navy. She was launched in 1791 at the dockyards in Toulon and placed in service in 1792. After the 50-gun Fourth Rate HMS Romney captured her in 1794, the British took her into service as HMS Sybille. She served in the Royal Navy until disposed of in 1833. While in British service Sybille participated in three notable single ship actions, in each case capturing a French vessel. On anti-slavery duties off West Africa from July 1827 to June 1830, Sybille captured numerous slavers and freed some 3,500 slaves. She was finally sold in 1833 in Portsmouth. Plans are rare and only by PM request. For personal use only.
  12. Hi, Not sure if there is anywhere specific to post work on 3D models but here goes. I've been playing Naval Action for a little bit now and felt it was time to try and get back into 3D modelling after an 8 year break. The first plan I found in these forums was the French Frigate Arethuse so decided to give that a go to ease myself back in. Not sure what model resolution the game takes (or if it would ever be worthy) but this 'test' run will probably be of average resolution. Should be an interesting learning curve using Blender (after coming from Maya). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_frigate_Aréthuse_(1792) Early start. The first 2 were just using the picture plans as is. I had no idea how the rear was made so after this start had a look at a load of reference material and website where people were building models. Pictures 3, 4, and 5 show progress after taking the plans and creating vertical reference image slices along the hull. I was surprisingly close in shape for most of it but was quite out at the front. Oh and ignore the gun holes in the hull, they will be filled in for now - I just wondered how it might look so far More progress when I get the time Simon
  13. Le Requin 24 guns French xebec 1751 Model from the Musée national de la Marine: http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/8950?vc=ePkH4LF7ldY7bsQgGADhq6BcIP4fYDhSmhS5f5FvI20UaasU03gGkBA2fr2e3v5zKt5fN-bP5v--FHnHmDlq7ZF3Y2Lhhmc7kCjwm9_85vfDn5Hngu7oju7oju7oju7sUdeFgLWuQmNi4R4VfPDBBx988MHHw5sjzqjUpS51qUtd6lKXutSlrjSlKU1pSlOa4otv87SmNa1pTWta05rJT35yk5vc5KY1pvGLX_ziF7_4tYYhRhjc9_N74z75ckQ-Pn_-e57n7Bu9G218 Another model. Source:http://modelisme.arsenal.free.fr/artdumodelisme/Le%20Requin/indexgb.html Plans: Dimensions: Length of Gundeck: 115' French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 37.361 meters Length of Keel: 95' French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 30.8831 meters Breadth: 26' French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 8.4719 meters Depth in Hold: 8' French Feet (Pied du Roi) or 2.8149 meters Burthen: 260 Ton Armament: Upper Gun Deck: 24 x French 8-Pounder Crew: 245(240 crew, 5 officers) Sources and info: Téléchargement (910.85k) http://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-national-marine/app/collection/record/8950?vc=ePkH4LF7ldY7bsQgGADhq6BcIP4fYDhSmhS5f5FvI20UaasU03gGkBA2fr2e3v5zKt5fN-bP5v--FHnHmDlq7ZF3Y2Lhhmc7kCjwm9_85vfDn5Hngu7oju7oju7oju7sUdeFgLWuQmNi4R4VfPDBBx988MHHw5sjzqjUpS51qUtd6lKXutSlrjSlKU1pSlOa4otv87SmNa1pTWta05rJT35yk5vc5KY1pvGLX_ziF7_4tYYhRhjc9_N74z75ckQ-Pn_-e57n7Bu9G218 http://modelisme.arsenal.free.fr/artdumodelisme/Le%20Requin/indexgb.html http://lerequinmodelisme.blogspot.gr/ http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=15543 http://ancre.fr/fr/monographies/18-monographie-du-requin-chebec-1750-.html Credits to Le Boiteux and Surcouf for the info.
  14. 'L'Armide' This ship can be a nice heavy 18-lbr Frigate addition to Naval Action. It can be an all around 44x18lb gun Frigate or can be mounted with carronades for close combat damage. Ship was named after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armida During the War of American Independence, Navy minister Sartine, his successor Castries, and engineer Borda requested standard plans to standardize the production of 18-pounder frigates (equivalent to the British Fifth-rate) and so it happened. Commanded by Captain Hugon, she participated in the Battle of Navarino in 1827, killing four and capturing the Turkish corvette Sultania; 1 November 1828 she participated in the attack on the castle of Morea. Designer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques-No%C3%ABl_San%C3%A9 Armament: Main - 28x18lb Secondary - 16x18lb or 16x24lb Carronades --- Total 28x18lb 16x18lb or 16x24lb Plans
  15. The following gazette is intent on publishing selected "prize court" cases pertaining "la guerre de course" as per French maritime tradition. The issues will be published without regularity, but can increase or decrease in number due to the cases sent to the gazette. When you like what you read than please give a like and participate "in character" with your replies via pm. Otherwise I would kindly request the moderators to hide all answers to keep the topic in role-play fashion and 100% clean of troll/flame posts. In case you want to give feedback pls use the pm function as well.
  16. French Corvettes had three masts, most carried about 16 to 24 guns, sometimes more (up to 32). The British Navy did not adopt the term until the 1830s, to describe a small sixth-rate vessel somewhat larger than a sloop, sometimes with only 2 masts. La Créole 1827, 24 guns Plan and monograph : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/61-monographie-de-la-creole-corvette-1823.html?search_query=corvette&results=6 Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_corvette_Créole_(1829)
  17. The French East India Company (1664-1794) Between 1720 and 1770, the Company gained a great prosperity and built more than 300 ships, a third of them being two-deck ships from 600 to 1500 ton. Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_East_India_Company La Paix, 1764 : http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66472.html Le Boullongne 600-ton French fluyt, 1759 20 guns (6-pdrs) Source : http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/boullon/bou_2.htm Built in Lorient by G. Cambry on behalf of the French East India Company. Design (especially the interior) is a bit different from ships built by and for the French Royal Navy, such as Le Gros Ventre, to serve as a freight transport ship. Named after Jean de Boullongne, French magistrate and politician. Captured by the British in 1762. Length (gundeck) : 126' Breadth : 30' Depth in hold : 11'8" Monograph and plans : http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/63-monographie-du-boullongne-v-cie-des-indes-1759.html?search_query=boullongne&results=2 Shipmodels : http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/boullon/bou_index.htm http://www.amarsenal.be/05_MM_19_SDB01.htm http://enguerrand.gourong.free.fr/oceanindien/p19oceanindien.htm Source : http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=16503
  18. La Topaze This is la Topaze of the shooner class l'Anémone by Delamorinière. In 1823: At Cherbourg = La Topaze and l'Emeraude At Bayonne = la Rose and l'Anémone At Toulon = La Jacjnthe and la Jonquille
  19. Models Contemporary Other http://b.rimlinger.free.fr/creole17.htm http://www.modelships.de/La-Creole/Photos-Corvette-La-Creole.htm Paintings The Prince de Joinville on the poop deck of La Créole (the ship to the left is La Créole) Dimensions length 38,22 m (125' 5') breadth 9,70 m (31' 10'') depth in hold 5,15 m (16' 10'') draught aft 4,52 m (14' 10'') height of battery 1,80 m (5'11'') length-to-breadth ratio 3,94 Armament 20 30-pound carronades 4 18-pounders Crew 166 Ships in class La Blonde/Jeanne Hachette 1832 Sailing characteristics (for her sister-ship La Blonde) 9 1/2 - 10 knots close-hauled, 12,5 knots large, 10 knots wind on the beam. Very maneuverable, carried her sail very well and liked medium to heavy conditions, in light winds her sailing qualities were described as 'ordinary'. Service History Laid down 1827, launched 1829. Took part in the Battle of Vera Cruz under the command of the Prince de Joinville. Struck 1847.
  20. L'Éclair was an 18- / 22-gun French barque latine built in Toulon and taken by HMS Leda in the Mediterranean, becoming the ship-sloop HMS Eclair. Plans below were taken prior to her being hulked in 1797. If anyone has an illustration of what her barque latine rig might have looked like, please post. with poop deck without poop deck http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84064.html Dimensions: 98' x 27' x 12' 230 tons Crew: 166 Armament: QD: 6x 12pdr carronades (in British service) Upper deck: 18x 6pdr gun A half-model of a similar barque latine from Toulon, L’Hirondelle (1743?), can be found in the musee nationale de la Marine, Paris: https://flic.kr/p/f5eBuZ
  21. The French nation in PVP2 are looking for players to help bring up our active player numbers. We are an extremely friendly bunch who are always willing to help a fellow country mate out. We'd appreciate anyone who would like to join the French ranks, doesn't matter what clan you join, there are some good ones, and we all help each other out.
  22. Révolutionnaire A very large frigate for her time and extremely fast. Built by the French in 1794, she was captured by the British in the same year. She once averaged 13.5 knots over several hours, chasing and catching one of the fastest French privateers ever! (and breaking the speed record) Again a near perfect ship in sailing qualities, except she couldn’t store enough for the royal navy’s standards, because of her long and low hull. She also served in Sir Edward Pellew’s squadron at the same time as Hornblower would have been on the Indefatigable. She was another favorite and had a fairly long life, lasting until 1822. Battery: Upper deck: 28/30 x 18-pounder guns Quarterdeck: 8 x 9-pounder guns + 6 x 32-pounder carronades Forecastle: 2 x 9-pounder guns + 2 x 32-pounder carrondes The Seine design was slightly improved upon with the 7-strong Gloire class. One of the Gloire class ships became the basis for the 13 ships of the English Seringapatam class after her capture. The designer of the Révolutionnaire , Pierre-Alexandre-Laurent Forfait, also designed the ship that would become the HMS Surprise featured in the Aubrey-Maturin series. xD: According to records the Révolutionnaire had near perfect sailing qualities, but needed a skilled captain to get her best sailing and speed out of her. Her only faults were because of the differences in French and English design principles; she couldn’t stow as much supplies as English frigates, because of her long and low hull, and she wasn't as strongly built as similar English frigates.
  23. BungeeLemming

    Where the hell is "téméraire"

    Well the title says it all.. Why dont we have plans for the téméraire class 74 gunners? After all she was the 74 gunner of the time. No other 3rd rates were ever build in such numbers off one construction plan.. I did a bit of research the days but could not find satisfying plans. nowhere in the webz I was around. armament?: (and remember that a french 36pd is 38.8 british pd) 28 x 36pd 30* 18pd 12 x 8pd + 4 x 36pd Carros (or 4x8pd as well as on the quarterdeck) __ total: 74 guns (as of 1783, launchdate of temeraire) 700 men compliment. I know its not the greatest of all sources but Wikipedial actually has a good page about the Temeraire class ships with good general information. Also threedecks.org has a good list of ships here Lead ship: Téméraire If there is "one" french ship missing. Its this class.
  24. 'La Bretagne' The Bretagne was a large 110-gun three-decker French ship of the line, built at Brest, which became famous as the flagship of the Brest Fleet during the American War of Independence. She was funded by a don des vaisseaux grant by the Estates of Brittany. Bretagne was one of seventeen ships of the line ordered in 1762 as a result of the Duc de Choiseul’s campaign to raise funds for the navy from the cities and provinces of France. She was completed at Brest in 1766. Specs: La Bretagne 1765-1796 By A. Grignard Built In Breast Launched in 1766 184' - 50' - 24'6'' 30-gun of 36-pdr; 32-gun of 24-pdr; 32-gun of 12-pdr; 6-gun of 6-pdr Total 116-gun In 1777, La Bretagne undergoes a major remake of 2/3. Artillery is given a 110-gun. Other name, le Révolutionnaire in 1793 This ship could be a great addition to NA 1st rate team.
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