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  1. Malachi

    Zevene Proven 1723

    Uhm, what? Af Chapman (the guy in the retro hoodie in my profile pic, btw) was 2 years old in 1723. And he built 3 or 4 Indiamen, the first one in the 1760s, the last one in 1803.
  2. Malachi

    Hugging exploit

    Cochrane´s Speedy (that´s the ship that 'hugged' the xebec Gamo) got captured by two french 74s, for example. And those SoLs did fire on the little brig during the chase.
  3. Malachi

    "Louis Le Grand" French 50 gunner 1700s(?)

    I very much doubt the marine royale would have named a meagre 50-gunner after Louis XIV. All the other 'royal' ships were vaisseaux de 1er ordre. So it´s very probable that it´s just a model with no full-size counterpart.
  4. God, that thing is ugly...and the circular stern for the later ships prolly made things even worse The only ones who managed to pull off a good looking true double-banked were the French, imo. Edit: Just noticed, why is the Java in the SoL subforum? ^^
  5. Malachi

    Shot Weightings By Nation

    Oh, there´s other fun stuff on threedecks, look at the entries for the swedish Vasa and Venus, for example: The Venus is listed with 156' (imperial), that´s not correct, that´s her length p/p in swedish feet and thus her length in imperial feet would be slightly shorter. Vasa has her length given in swedish alen (exactly two swedish feet), but her length in imperial feet is 371' 6''. Quite the ship, indeed. So, when looking at the entries for ships of the smaller nations, try to cross-reference the data if possible
  6. Dimensions for this ketch are 83' length p/p, 22 3/5' breadth moulded. The sail plan for this type of vessel is on plate LXII of the Architectura Navalis Mercatoria, more info on how to calculate mast lengths are to be found in the corresponding treatise by af Chapman (link). One thing to watch out for: a swedish huqvert/ketch would usually have a loose-footed gaff sail on the main mast. The deck lay-out needs to reconstructed by using other, more detailed plans for a contemporary, similiar-sized ketch, like those for the british Speedwell or Cruizer (both 1752, IIRC) or the danish Amager (1759) or Echo (1773).
  7. Malachi

    New ships by nation

    Though separated by 1,900 miles of ocean and islands, Barbados and Charleston were remarkably alike. Charleston had been founded less than fifty years earlier by a group of Barbadian planters who had successfully replicated their West Indian slave society in the coastal swamps of southern Carolina. A compact, walled city of 3,000, Charleston’s streets and low, swampy shoreline were lined with Barbadian-style homes, high-ceilinged frame structures with large windows, balconies, and tiled roofs. Quote from 'Republic of Pirates'. And please don't mention Black Sails and research in the same sentence, Wind.
  8. Malachi

    New ships by nation

    Black Sails...lol.
  9. Malachi

    New ships by nation

    They built the Surprise, so I'm pretty sure they'd sail it, too. And I've never heard of a danish 48-gun Walkyrie, when was that ship launched? There was a corvette called Valkyrien in the mid-1840s, but a SoL?
  10. Malachi

    Santísima Trinidad

    None of the paintings/models (except one or two?) you posted are contemporary, so it'd be interesting to know on which sources they're based on. Maybe ask G. Hunt why he painted the ST the way he did?
  11. Four replies and no one mentioned the long 18-pounder chasers fore and aft? Oh tempora, o mores....( I blame the control perk) I had a closer look at the plans and I have to say that ship-class was quite an interesting piece of naval architecture. The body plan shows a really unusual inversed tumblehome with slightly overhanging sides, probably to soften the rolling motions, not surprising given the heavy armament this relatively small ship had to carry. Second interesting point is the length-to-breadth ration of ~3.5 while the vast majority of ships of this size had a L/B ratio of 3.8 to 4. This made the brig a more stable gun platform and stiffer , but was thought to decrease the speed (which was probably not the case). It also gave the ship more room to store provisions. I already said that these vessel primarily acted as 'motherships' for the gunboats operating in the waters of the danish and norwegian coasts, providing the crews with warm meals and other needed materials. Third feature is the underwater hull shape. These waterlines set the standard for danish ships for the next 50 years and were in stark contrast to the french-inspired 'hollow' lines used by previous danish shipwrights like Stibolt: Lolland-class, 1810, J. J. Pihl Gefion, 1843, 24-pounder frigate, A. Schifter Lougen, 1791, 18-gun brig, E.W. Stibolt So, that´s enough naval geekness for today
  12. Not the prettiest ship ever, but I really like this little, ugly duckling and it packed quite a punch: Plans: Cross section showing the two different guns carried onboard: left is a 'normal' long 18-pounder, right the short version. This drawing is one of ten, visualising the waterlines under different angles of sailing. The hull is divided into triangles so the displacement can be calculated accurately. Dimensions: Length p/p : 95 danish feet (100' 1'' according to british measurement) Breadth moulded: 28' Depth in hold: 13' 1'' Draught aft: 12' Height of battery 5' The four 'pihlske brigger' (named after their designer, Jens Pihl) primarily acted as motherships for the gunboats deployed in the war against Great Britain. They were considered as excellent seaboats, very maneuverable, stiff and able to carry a considerable press of sail. According to the replica website, the builders expect a speed under sail of 13 knots. Armament: 8 short 18-pounders, 8 long 18-pounders, two ships carried 2 6-pounder chase guns, others used the long 18s as stern/bow chase guns. (The short danish 18s were longer and heavier than british 18-pound carronades and had a longer range. In use from the early 1790s till the late 1840s) Sister ships: 4 ( Falster 1810, Bornholm 1811, Møen 1815, Frederiksværn 1814) Service history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMS_Lolland_(1810)
  13. Plans: Dimensions: Length p/p : 87 danish feet (92' 6'' according to british measurement) Breadth moulded: 24' Depth in hold: 15' 7'' Draught aft: 12' Height of battery 4' 6'' Armament: 14 short 18-pounders (The short danish 18s were longer and heavier than british 18-pound carronades and had a longer range. In use from the early 1790s till the late 1840s) Sister ships: 1 Service history: Launched 1819, sold 1834 to a merchant company. Visited the West Indies 5 times (7 years in total). EDIT: Sorry, wrong subforum, please move to Unrated Vessels. Thanks!
  14. Model: https://digitaltmuseum.no/011024197183/modell-av-fartoy/media?slide=6 (that´s the second Lougen, built in 1805 and given to the norwegian navy in 1816, almost identical to the first one) Plans: Dimensions: Length p/p : 89 danish feet (94' 7'' according to british measurement) Breadth moulded: 26' Depth in hold: 11' 6'' Draught aft: 11' Height of battery 4' 3'' Armament: 18 short 18-pounders, 2 6-pounder chase guns (The short danish 18s were longer and heavier than british 18-pound carronades and had a longer range. In use from the early 1790s till the late 1840s) Sister ships: 11 Service history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMS_Lougen_(1791)
  15. Malachi

    HMS Vanguard (1835)

    http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=vessel-356950;browseBy=vessel;vesselFacetLetter=V But this thread should be in the history section.