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  1. Make sure you visit the Greek Maritime Museum. Not a whole lot to see but still interesting Or the cruiser Averoff and the destroyer Velos next to it.
  2. Player-selected ships 2017 - Initial poll

    Could you please consider adding a ship from Malta/Venice/Portugal/Austria/Greece regardless of the poll results? Pretty please?
  3. Player-selected ships 2017 - Initial poll

    The plans of the 74 gun principe real are available for purchase in the Portuguese maritime museum as far as I know. Not sure about the 90 gun version Edit: oops misread the name. Nevermind
  4. Saint Nicholas Russian Rowing Frigate 34 guns Plans: Source article(in Finnish)/More diagrams and images: http://www.fregattinikolainsurkea.fi/411415125 In English:http://www.fregattinikolainsurkea.fi/426398867 Info(Probably this one):http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=21081
  5. Player-selected ships 2017 - Initial poll

    The Dutch will get at least one ship from this. No need to be salty another could be in the works. Plus you have a couple made by community members. You never know. They might make it into the game
  6. Player-selected ships 2017 - Initial poll

    No multiple choices? It's so hard to choose! What have i done to myself
  7. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    She was suggested at the begining of this thread, in his long list. But she carries 54 guns and is a double-decker. Are double deckers accepted in the poll at that gun range(50-60)? I'm not sure if you can call them heavy frigates since those are the ones you are looking for. The ones i have proposed at that gun range who are double deckers as well, were proposed only because are from the preffered nations.Same with the Dutch ships suggested from other people i suppose. Anyway there she is
  8. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    San Giovanni/Athenienne/Athenian ("St. John") Maltese 64/70-gun 3rd Rate, 1796 Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Athenienne http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=15025 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2211 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=3179 http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81333.html(Needs enquiring about the availability) http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=vessel-293373;browseBy=vessel;vesselFacetLetter=A Credits to LeBoiteux and Wagram!
  9. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Santa Monica Spanish sixth rate/British fifth rate 26/34 guns 1777 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=6373 http://www.modelshipbuilder.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?6450
  10. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    I guess that today isn't the day as stated
  11. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    @admin Is the poll anytime soon? I can't wait
  12. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Unnamed Portuguese no date (2nd half of the XVIIIth-century ?) date of the english plan : ca. February 1811 182 ft 74-gun Third Rate two decker http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/81037.html Original thread:http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/7306-player-ship-selection-1st-half-2016/?do=findComment&comment=140159 Credits to @LeBoiteux
  13. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Maybe make a seperate thread for discussing like it was last year? This thread screams for restructuring imho
  14. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Yes, i know it's this ship again but a man can dream , can't he? In hope that something Greek, actually makes it into a game like this, i also present: Don't stone me to death pls Loudovikos(Louis) Loudovikos was a corvette of the Hellenic Navy built in 1838 at the Poros Naval Shipyard, designed by naval architect Georgios Tombazis. It was a relatively large ship (length 44.1 m, 1000-ton displacement), was armed with two 22-lb plus four 20-lb long guns, and twenty-four 32-lb carronades, and had a crew of 182. The ship was not operationally utilized, and since 1846 it was used as a training ship (renamed Messolongion in 1862). It officially remained in service with the Hellenic Navy until 1873. Lenght:44.1 meters Width:11.7 meters Draft:4.5 meters Tonnage:1016 tons Crew: 182 Armamament: 2 x 22 pounder guns 4 x 20 pounder long guns 24 x 32 pounder carronades More images,model and info at(in Greek):http://www.greekshipmodels.com/default.aspx?pageid=170 Ship plans: The pictures of the ship's plans where taken from the Hellenic Maritime Museum where they are exhibited.
  15. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Yes, i know it's this ship again but a man can dream , can't he? In hope that something Greek, actually makes it into a game like this, i present: Hellas Greek frigate 62 guns 1826 Characteristics: Length:54 m Width: 14m Tonnage:1728 t Draft:4.2 m Guns:48(16 pdr) + 16 carronades(42 pdr) Her plans Sources:http://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/h/hudson-i.html Hellas http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=14692 USS Hudson/Liberator http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=2412 Model: http://greekshipmodels.com/ships/fregata-ellas/ Better resolution plans here: https://openlibrary.org/books/OL24398454M/The_history_of_the_American_sailing_Navy
  16. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Nau Principe da Beira Portuguese 44(?) or 54(?) guns 1774 About the guns,sources say that she mounted 44 guns but i counted at least 52. Not to be mistaked with the Princesa da Beira: http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=7891 Sources: http://triganices.blogspot.gr/2012/01/nau-princepe-da-beira.html http://marinhadeguerraportuguesa.blogspot.gr/2013_10_01_archive.html http://museu.marinha.pt/pt/exposicoes/exposicaopermanente/SeculoXVIII/Paginas/default.aspx http://3decks.pbworks.com/f/Catalogo+dos+navios+brigantinos+%281640-1910%29+-+Esparteiro.pdf Original thread:
  17. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Göta Lejon Swedish 3rd Rate 70-76 guns 1746 Göta Lejon was built in Karskrona in 1746.She was rebuilt in 1769-1770 and served until 1816 when she was broken up. Model from Swedish Museum: Dimensions: Lenght of Gundeck: 164' Swedish Aln Breadth: 44' Swedish Aln Depth in Hold: 20' 6'' Swedish Aln Displacement: 2050-2100 ton Card from the museum: Plans: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1f006tmsye11huk/24.1a.pdf?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uhtnyax2qg1wg1f/24.1b.pdf?dl=0 Armament(1746): Lower Gun Deck: 28 x Swedish 24-Pounder Upper Gun Deck: 26 x Swedish 18-Pounder Quarterdeck/Forecastle: 22 x Swedish 6-Pounder Armament(1770): Lower Gun Deck: 26 x Swedish 24-Pounder Upper Gun Deck: 26 x Swedish 18-Pounder Quarterdeck/Forecastle: 22 x Swedish 6-Pounder From Illustrerad Svensk sjökrigshistoria: delen. Omfattande tiden intill 1680 by Gunnar Unge: https://books.google.gr/books?id=RchAAAAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA305&lpg=RA1-PA305&dq=G%C3%B6ta+Lejon+1746&source=bl&ots=cqUK57WfQh&sig=HCvcixW-EML7fwOSAgOWj15TiQY&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjypcXmza_PAhXGXBQKHRCxBqYQ6AEIYDAM#v=onepage&q=G%C3%B6ta%20Lejon&f=false Sources:http://digitaltmuseum.se/021025898367#&gid=1&pid=11 http://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=10890 http://felipe.mbnet.fi/html/body_gota_lejon_1746.html http://felipe.mbnet.fi/Sweden/Sweden_Ships_1700-1860/sweden_ships_1700-1860.html https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ta_Lejon_(1746) Original thread:http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/16653-göta-lejon-swedish-3rd-rate-1746-with-plans/
  18. WiP Well i took the initiative to make LeBoiteux's idea into reality.A thread which contains all the venetian/italian ship in the forums. Unnamed Venetian 22-gun corvette XVIII-th century Books: Title:Duri i banchi! Le navi della Serenissima 421-1797 Author:Guido Ercole Link: http://www.amazon.it/Duri-banchi-della-Serenissima-421-1797/dp/8890251107 Title:Vascelli e fregate della Serenissima. Navi di linea della Marina veneziana 1652-1797 Author:Guido Ercole Link:http://www.amazon.it/Vascelli-fregate-Serenissima-veneziana-1652-1797/dp/8890565144/ref=pd_rhf_dp_p_img_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=10SB0B1PBW7848V5AFN2 Title:Navi veneziane-Venetian ships Author:Gilberto Penzo Link:http://www.amazon.fr/Navi-veneziane-Venetian-ships-Gilberto-Penzo/dp/888190103X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1445631636&sr=8-2&keywords=navi+veneziane Title:Vele italiane della costa occidentale Author:Edoardo Guerrieri and Sergio Bellabarba Link:http://www.amazon.com/Vele-italiane-della-costa-occidentale/dp/8820348330/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1447246313&sr=1-1&keywords=Vele+italiane+della+costa+occidentale&pebp=1447246318873&perid=01XM9109D3YKGFF909JD About the book:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6156-vele-italiane-della-costa-occidentale/ Title:VENEZIA '800: BUFERA IN ARSENALE La Marina veneziana nel ventennio napoleonico (1796-1815) Author:Guido Ercole Link:http://milistoria.it/Apps/WebObjects/Milistoria.woa/wa/XDirectAction/viewProduct?id=95690〈=ita Title:Navi veneziane-Venetian ships Author:Gilberto Penzo Link:https://www.amazon.co.uk/Navi-veneziane-Venetian-ships-Gilberto-Penzo/dp/888190103X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1467971663&sr=8-3&keywords=venetian+ships More sources: More detailed plans:http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms/opencms/it/ricercaMag.jsp?searchType=avanzato&q=&opCha__creator=AND&channel__creator=&opCha__title=AND&channel__title=&opCha__contributor=AND&channel__contributor=&opCha__issuedYear=AND&channel__issuedYear_from=&channel__issuedYear_until=&opCha__publisher=AND&channel__publisher=&opCha__subject=AND&channel__subject=&opCha__language=AND+OR&opCha__typeTipo=AND+OR&opCha__typeLivello=AND&channel__typeLivello=&opCha__typeDigitale=AND+OR&opCha__location=AND&channel__location=&opCha__collectionText=AND&channel__collectionText=Disegni+navali&opCha__agency=AND+OR&opCha__descSourceLevel2=AND+OR&imageField2.x=11&imageField2.y=6 http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms/opencms/it/collezioni/collezione_0083.html http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/916144/Venetian%20Large%20Frigates http://nuke.gmtmodellismo.it/ILIBRI/NAVISTORIAEMODELLISMO/VASCELLIEFREGATEDELLASERENISSIMA/tabid/369/Default.aspx http://www.veneziamuseo.it/ARSENAL/schede_arsenal/fregate.htm http://www.modellismo.net/forum/recensione-libri-e-articoli/105840-vascelli-e-fregate-della-serenissima.html http://www.veniceboats.com/das-erbe-der-serenissima.htm http://www.modellismo.net/forum/recensione-libri-e-articoli/105863-duri-i-banchi-le-navi-della-serenissima-421-1797-a.html http://koti.mbnet.fi/felipe/html/ships_1667-1797.html Credit goes to all of the people that found the info/plans/drawings and posted them in the respective threads.I only put them together in a single thread. Feel free to contribute!
  19. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    We might need a new thread.. This is getting a bit messy since the instructions weren't clear at first. Or at least some serious moderation and cleaning
  20. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Yeah it isn't quite "light"
  21. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Just as an extra option since there is quite some information about it:
  22. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    I cant believe i am doing this but.. Peleng-i Bahri 1777 https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=21433
  23. Player selected ship 2017 - Suggestions

    Carolina Italian/Austro-Hungarian 34 guns 1808 Probably her in 1818: High res plans here:https://www.dropbox.com/s/zsbkvjmtp8ul2fe/CAROLINA%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0
  24. Naval Action at its current state is a very peculiar creation. It is like a Frankenstein’s monster. Made out of a lot of different body parts that don’t really work together, look unnatural and have to be changed from time to time.The brain, which is the only healthy part(combat) is desperately trying to keep the rest alive.At the same time it’s by far the part with the biggest size. It’s a creation without an homogenous body. It s a hydrocephalus body. RvR, trading, ow PvP, veterans and newcomers and all other aspects all are connected but in a way where the hole body can’t function properly. Why will NA legends be a success? If we break down to bits both of the games we get the following: People expect legends to be a game about combat and sailing ships.The healthy part of the Frankenstein’s creation will become the core of the new game’s body. NA is the same but with an open world and nothing else. So the difference is huge playground populated with (in good times) 2500 player on 2.754.000 km². While players and AI are the only content besides ships NA can offer to the customer, the other parts are obviously underdeveloped. Therefore he is quickly “satisfied” with the content on his hands. Because of the above and the current state of the gaming industry, a switch of focus on NA Legends makes sense but what will happen to the oddly patched up NA body? Have Game Labs shifted interest? Is it too challenging to keep the body alive(keep designing the game)? The latest content we have seen has been directly connected to NA Legends and the mechanics keep bouncing back and forth, still trying to find a sweet spot but it’s still about the head(combat). Countless of ideas have been proposed regarding other parts of the game’s body. Some not so good,others, brilliant. Most of them, not even tested or considered because “they wouldn’t work in the current environment of a multiplayer game since they are single player aspects” or of whatever reasons. NA can’t be just a game about combat. It is actually in dire need of these single player aspects. It's the adventure that has driven captains and seamen into the seven seas and there is no real adventure ingame. It is possible to experience the whole game within a few days. It’s the respect to history that appeals to many captains and not the Jack Sparrow imagery, Nations with the same capabilities and infrastructure of a global empire. The way Game labs picked up a niche product and started to form a body is admirable but it shouldn’t be distorted from the original idea just to appeal more. It shouldn’t become a game full of Jack Sparrows or Hornblowers or whatever. Game Labs shouldn’t do what companies like Ubisoft or EA do with their games.Game Labs should focus on the reason why they picked up such a project and why they have chosen to introduce OW. Was it the adventure of the unknown? Was it curiosity? Those are strong feelings that the game fails to deliver but are important aspects of the human nature. Far is never far enough. Do what developers like CD Projekt Red do. It will be done when it’s done, but it will be done right Respectfully, Sella I will link a few of those in hope that they will be re-considered. http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/1534-exploration-gameplay/?tab=comments#comment-32219 http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/16866-ideas-for-the-pacific-coast/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/6805-pacific-coast-whats-the-plan/?do=findComment&comment=218998 http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/7143-honour-system/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/7717-career-paths/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/3608-notoriety-infamy-heat-and-bounties/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/6921-player-roles-discussions/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/6644-and-idea-for-give-pirates-a-fun-role-in-the-nations-fight-for-ports-ownership/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/6664-pirate-havens-port-security-and-trade-regulations/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/6364-morale-and-mutiny/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/6179-national-traits-faction-differences/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/5957-letters-of-marque-privateering-and-prize-taking/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/5503-skills-specializations-and-how-the-player-plays/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/5322-professions-businesses/
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