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French Frigate L'Hermione


PIerrick de Badas

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Hello

I have a intriguing question : a monograph of the Hermione has been published recently by French publisher Ancre, and her stern, as well as her figurehead are quite different from the replica. Have you any explanation ? Did the real Hermione change during its service ?

 

Thanks a lot for your answer, best wishes (and congratulations Surcouf, what a dream come true !)

 

hermio11.jpg        hermione-monographie.jpg

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Great stuff ! Thanks Surcouf for all this data !

 

Also, I did a bit of research and wanted to have your confirmation about L'Hermione having front chassers. I did read, I think from the captains logs : "A 2 heures 1/2, j'ai reconnu le bâtiment que je chassais pour un navire marchand anglais qui a arboré son pavillon. J'ai envoyé le mien et lui ayant tiré un coup de canon de chasse, il a amené."  which would translate into something like : "At 2h30, I identified the ship that I was hunting as a British merchant ship that had raised its flag. I raised mine and having fired a "warning shot" with our bow chassers he brought his flag down."

 

Also I did see what could be a porthole for theses chassers : on this picture of the Hermione replica / As well as on this virtual copy

Then again, I'm not a naval expert, nor a historian or specialist in that matter.

 

Can you confirm or invalidate that Surcouf ?

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Whether a small or a very big ship, the guns of chasse or retirement are never in place to the naviguation.

We used the nearest gun, and instal this at the chasse.

If the commander pulls with gun to demand the nationality of the vessel; or the gun is already in place, or it's just a gun on the forecastle. But it is not a cannon that moves just to ask the flag of a vessel.

It's complicated to move a gun, even a small gun.

(Sorry for my english...)

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At the beginning of February 2018 the frigate Hermione leaves for four months of navigation.

For this new navigation the frigate will sail towards the Mediterranean. Here are the scales of this sailing.

Maybe some of you will be able to visit it.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Barbancourt (rownd) said:

[...] I hope I can see it some day...[...]

At the moment, visit her only in France (to Rochefort), but in 2018, she travel in Mediterranean and passing in three countries.

:)

On 25/5/2017 at 4:42 PM, Surcouf said:

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On 19/8/2016 at 0:15 PM, Bonden said:

Hello

I have a intriguing question : a monograph of the Hermione has been published recently by French publisher Ancre, and her stern, as well as her figurehead are quite different from the replica. Have you any explanation ? Did the real Hermione change during its service ?

 

Thanks a lot for your answer, best wishes (and congratulations Surcouf, what a dream come true !)

 

hermio11.jpg        hermione-monographie.jpg

I Bonden,

It can not be said that the monograph represents an exact ship, but rather a historical research which attempts to come closer to reality. Having no historical parts reeled on this ship, no one will ever agree on how the l'Hermione was real.

So the replica is different from the monograph, and if another person wants to do a new search, he will publish a third l'Hermione different from the other two ...

Here is the introductory text of the monograph on the site A.N.C.R.E.  :

"An initial chapter is concerned with the nautical qualities that warships must have possessed.  They weree specially mediocre for vessels builtduring the 17th century and the first half of the 18th because of the use of obsolete concepts. 

The new design concepts that were adopted toward the end of that period are described next, as well as the improvements in performance and sea-going capabilities that resulted. 

A second chapteris the object of a detailed study of documents concerned with the architecture and characteristics of sister-frigates, a study that allows the identification in a plausible manner, of the various poorly known aspects of HERMIONE."

:)

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