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Mystery ship

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Ill lend a hand here, the chatham is build along the same lines as the admiraal. She has different but very similar decorations and ornaments. It's neither of those ships.

As far as my knowledge goes, the stern style =/= dutch design.

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9 hours ago, SteelSandwich said:

Ill lend a hand here, the chatham is build along the same lines as the admiraal. She has different but very similar decorations and ornaments. It's neither of those ships.

As far as my knowledge goes, the stern style =/= dutch design.

 

Then the only other ship I can remotely think of is Danish, the Dannebrog.  And if it's not her, she's either Danish or Swedish.

The French had a couple of 90 gun second rates, but none that fit the bill.

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hmm.. I shall shed some light then and tell you why you wont find any images or models of this vessel.

I am pretty certain I am the first person to model and publish images of her. She was never build but approved by the authorities. Means she would have been build if the money was at hand.

Her dimensions would have been:

  • Length                     202' ("national" fot) -> ~60m
  • Breadth                   53' -> ~ 15,73m
  • Draught Forward     22' -> 6,53m
  • Draught Aft              23' -> 6,82m

Armed with:

  • 30*42pd
  • 32*30pd
  • 32*18pd

and a crew of ~830

You could search for a ship named "Spiral" but I did it myself to make sure this doesnt give away too much. But maybe your digging methods are better than mine so I wish you good luck if you plan on searching this vessel.

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Hmmm, well it looks like the Dutch 'Voet' = 1.033 English feet, which puts the length at 195.5'. 60 meters is 196.85' so That is very close...however its not out of the question that the Swedish or Danish foot equivalent is similarly close to the English measurement.  I can't say I have a good guess for the identity of the vessel, but given the relatively high headrails and hawse-holes, and two tiers of galleries on a three decker, I'd place this ship between 1800-1820, most likely in the second half of that range. The American '74' gunners (that were really more like traditional second rates, with two full decks and a fully armed spar deck) had round bows and only one or two tiers of quarter galleries, and the British built a first rate on the great lakes with similar characteristics during the war of 1812.

http://imgur.com/AFiPOHg

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/3186-hms-st-lawrence-1814/ 

It certainly isn't any of those ships, but has the characteristics that would be considered modern at the same time they were built and after. 

 

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sternview with a bit more work on her:

 

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And she is swedish

 

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